Brakes specialist?

[Columbian78]

2 hours ago, Cumzilla said:

Not looking for upgrade, but looking for another brake specialist to fix my brake issues. Whenever I brake after travelling for some distance, there will be a' 'tuck' sound. Already changed 3 sets of brake pads this year, 2 at the 1st workshop that caused this issue, and the other at a so called specialist. According the the brake specialist workshop, the sound is caused by the metal piece (dunno what is call) that hold the brake pads, went back to them twice and everything will be nice and quite for a week, after that it will come back. Wanted to give up and replace the car already.

Did this problem started immediately after you had done something to the brakes, e.g. changed brake kit, or just pad, rotor, etc?

Does it sound like something mechanical locking in place tuck sound at the wheels after the car wheels changed direction, i.e. reverse then forward, vice versa, during parking?

I myself have this phenomenon daily as described after I changed my front brake kit, coincidentally at TBS. This was 4 years ago. It only happens while parking where the wheels changed direction (reverse/forward). It is like the pads itself has some free play space and is being pushed within the calliper when rotational direction changed. The sound is like a mechnical "tuck" sound coming from the front wheel area. The boss had explained to me at that point that its normal. I cannot remember the details of the explanation. It has caused no problem for me the past 4 years. It never happen when just driving forward. Had changed 1 set of pads during this time.

[Cumzilla]

Just now, Watwheels said:

So what did he do? Add shims to the pads? Shims are thin slices of metal to make the brake pad fit snugly onto its position.

Or did they forgot to put it back in the first place?

Such a bad workshop.

1st time i went, i saw him using sandpaper to bua, then cannot see what else he did. If he forgot to put back, the 2nd and 3rd time I went will notice one leh.

[mersaylee]

12 minutes ago, Jamesc said:

The "specialist" that changed the brake pads and after change then got the sound?

That specialist?

Specialise in making any sound louder 😁

[Volvobrick]

Try putting some brake paste on the metal part of the brake pads. 

[Discoburg]

4 minutes ago, Cumzilla said:

Discoburg, this car lot of issues, earlier kana banged by lorry, then hit and run 2 weeks later, now this, guess really time to change car already, might consider getting your mazda 3 now. 😀

Faster change to the Mazda 3 then. Heard prices dropped by TEK. Also your ride quite old liao right? I changed mine at the 4 year mark so yours should be 5 year old now?

Edited September 23, 2021 by Discoburg

[Jamesc]

1 minute ago, Volvobrick said:

Try putting some brake paste on the metal part of the brake pads. 

I soaked my MIL brake pads in WD-40.

Not a word of complain from her since.

[Watwheels]

2 minutes ago, Cumzilla said:

1st time i went, i saw him using sandpaper to bua, then cannot see what else he did. If he forgot to put back, the 2nd and 3rd time I went will notice one leh.

I dunno what brake pads they sold to you. I suggest you go back to getting your original brake pads from the car brand/maker. Have someone familiar with your car model to do it. 

I never go to self-proclaimed "specialist" shops. There is nothing to prove that they are specialist of that field.

[Mkl22]

7 minutes ago, Cumzilla said:

1st time i went, i saw him using sandpaper to bua, then cannot see what else he did. If he forgot to put back, the 2nd and 3rd time I went will notice one leh.

I think I know exactly what you are talking about. I faced the same issue with toyota Markx. It’s was the spring clips at the top and bottom of the pads. Numerous visits to workshops to try to fix a Clunk sound when I travel over bumpy roads. Was told it was suspension. Shocks bushings etc. in the end I self diagnosed it was the spring clips on the pads. 
partly my fault as the pads were after market project u. But the sound didn’t come till later on. 
some questions. What’s car? Stock pads? Have you replaced the spring clips or try to reshape them. Do you have the backing shims on the pads? Slight amount of copper grease or plastilube added to the back of the pads and the “ears” of the pads? 
a photo will help. I spent hours DIY experimenting. None of the workshops bother after a while and said the usual. It’s like that one! 

i have since awarded myself the title of brake specialist for the standard Japanese type of calipers. 

Edited September 23, 2021 by Mkl22

[Cumzilla]

8 minutes ago, Columbian78 said:

Did this problem started immediately after you had done something to the brakes, e.g. changed brake kit, or just pad, rotor, etc?

Does it sound like something mechanical locking in place tuck sound at the wheels after the car wheels changed direction, i.e. reverse then forward, vice versa, during parking?

I myself have this phenomenon daily as described after I changed my front brake kit, coincidentally at TBS. This was 4 years ago. It only happens while parking where the wheels changed direction (reverse/forward). It is like the pads itself has some free play space and is being pushed within the calliper when rotational direction changed. The sound is like a mechnical "tuck" sound coming from the front wheel area. The boss had explained to me at that point that its normal. I cannot remember the details of the explanation. It has caused no problem for me the past 4 years. It never happen when just driving forward. Had changed 1 set of pads during this time.

yes after the disc skimming and changing of brake pads. Not the mechanical tuck sound u mentioned, that is normal. The 'tuck' sound I am hearing now is more prominent and irritating.

[Watwheels]

4 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

I think I know exactly what you are talking about. I faced the same issue with toyota Markx. It’s was the spring clips at the top and bottom of the pads. Numerous visits to workshops to try to fix a Clunk sound when I travel over bumpy roads. Was told it was suspension. Shocks bushings etc. in the end I self diagnosed it was the spring clips on the pads. 
partly my fault as the pads were after market project u. But the sound didn’t come till later on. 
some questions. What’s car? Stock pads? Have you replaced the spring clips or try to reshape them. Do you have the backing shims on the pads? Slight amount of copper grease or plastilube added to the back of the pads and the “ears” of the pads? 
a photo will help. I spent hours DIY experimenting. None of the workshops bother after a while and said the usual. It’s like that one! 

Those are called brake pad shims. 

Edited September 23, 2021 by Watwheels

[Cumzilla]

5 minutes ago, Watwheels said:

I dunno what brake pads they sold to you. I suggest you go back to getting your original brake pads from the car brand/maker. Have someone familiar with your car model to do it. 

I never go to self-proclaimed "specialist" shops. There is nothing to prove that they are specialist of that field.

quite true, went to a 'general' workshop for skimming after seeing it in carousell, then got problem, no choice had to look for a 'specialist' after that. At least the mechanic know the issue when I first time went, but after suggesting to replace with the 'right' brake pads, maybe not so specialise after all and the problem is not fixed after the 3rd time I returned for them to look at the brake pads they replaced.

[Watwheels]

2 minutes ago, Cumzilla said:

quite true, went to a 'general' workshop for skimming after seeing it in carousell, then got problem, no choice had to look for a 'specialist' after that. At least the mechanic know the issue when I first time went, but after suggesting to replace with the 'right' brake pads, maybe not so specialise after all and the problem is not fixed after the 3rd time I returned for them to look at the brake pads they replaced.

It is possible the kuku workshop have sold you some dunno from where brake pads that couldnt fit. So they removed the shims to make it fit but it could not fit snugly. That is why I am suggesting you get back either original or OEM pads plus the shim kit. Never go back to this kuku workshop ever again.

[Cumzilla]

9 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

I think I know exactly what you are talking about. I faced the same issue with toyota Markx. It’s was the spring clips at the top and bottom of the pads. Numerous visits to workshops to try to fix a Clunk sound when I travel over bumpy roads. Was told it was suspension. Shocks bushings etc. in the end I self diagnosed it was the spring clips on the pads. 
partly my fault as the pads were after market project u. But the sound didn’t come till later on. 
some questions. What’s car? Stock pads? Have you replaced the spring clips or try to reshape them. Do you have the backing shims on the pads? Slight amount of copper grease or plastilube added to the back of the pads and the “ears” of the pads? 
a photo will help. I spent hours DIY experimenting. None of the workshops bother after a while and said the usual. It’s like that one! 

i have since awarded myself the title of brake specialist for the standard Japanese type of calipers. 

doubt I have the same issue as yours as the sound is not clunk but tuck, driving mazda 2, not stock pads anymore, already the 3rd in a year. Sorry, unable to answer the rest of your questions because I have never DIY on my brakes before.

[Cumzilla]

6 minutes ago, Watwheels said:

It is possible the kuku workshop have sold you some dunno from where brake pads that couldnt fit. So they removed the shims to make it fit but it could not fit snugly. That is why I am suggesting you get back either original or OEM pads plus the shim kit. Never go back to this kuku workshop ever again.

thanks for the really helpful advice, I will sound it out during my next servicing. But the specialist did ask for my car chassis number before getting the 'correct' brake pads, the 1st workshop where I did the skimming is the kuku one as the problem arises from there, btw, they had changed the name but still using the the same profile pic in FB, with 'hui ge' as their model.

[Mkl22]

1 hour ago, Watwheels said:

Those are called brake pad shims. 

i thought these are shims. the pieces that go to the back of the pads.

or maybe all have the same name.

[Mkl22]

1 hour ago, Cumzilla said:

doubt I have the same issue as yours as the sound is not clunk but tuck, driving mazda 2, not stock pads anymore, already the 3rd in a year. Sorry, unable to answer the rest of your questions because I have never DIY on my brakes before.

clunk tuck... same la. it is cause by the pads shifting in the caliper. use back original pads or get new shims/clips to hold the pads in better.

you can try bending the shims/clips (which is what i did to hold the "ears" of the pads better) to prevent shifting during braking.

[Mkl22]

1 hour ago, Columbian78 said:

Did this problem started immediately after you had done something to the brakes, e.g. changed brake kit, or just pad, rotor, etc?

Does it sound like something mechanical locking in place tuck sound at the wheels after the car wheels changed direction, i.e. reverse then forward, vice versa, during parking?

I myself have this phenomenon daily as described after I changed my front brake kit, coincidentally at TBS. This was 4 years ago. It only happens while parking where the wheels changed direction (reverse/forward). It is like the pads itself has some free play space and is being pushed within the calliper when rotational direction changed. The sound is like a mechnical "tuck" sound coming from the front wheel area. The boss had explained to me at that point that its normal. I cannot remember the details of the explanation. It has caused no problem for me the past 4 years. It never happen when just driving forward. Had changed 1 set of pads during this time.

typicall original pads will not have these tuck sound when changing direction. only aftermarket where the fit isnt too great, then you get this. but can adjust the clips/shims to help prevent this.

must have been close to 20-30times when i take out and adjust the brakes😢

Edited September 23, 2021 by Mkl22

[Discoburg]

15 hours ago, Cumzilla said:

thanks for the really helpful advice, I will sound it out during my next servicing. But the specialist did ask for my car chassis number before getting the 'correct' brake pads, the 1st workshop where I did the skimming is the kuku one as the problem arises from there, btw, they had changed the name but still using the the same profile pic in FB, with 'hui ge' as their model.

Change the car la. Don't bother sounding it out anymore.