Ct3833 Supersonic July 11, 2019 Share July 11, 2019 (edited) I have some queries with regards to getting 2nd hand car from dealer. I need some advice to consider my option. I had actually shortlisted 2 cars from different dealer (which i will describe the scenario below as Car A and Car B). Do help me and advice which car to choose and what should I do. I understand there is a lot of myths of SE not being honest especially on mileage, servicing records, accident free records, inspection report as this will affect their asking price. Most SE will try to get you pay deposit and promise you all the things you highlighted will be rectified but when the buyer collect the car and it is not delivered as promise thus buyers having bad experience. Car A - Age is younger than Car B. Overall condition (interior and exterior) of car is better than Car B. Engine no problem. The problem with this car is that SE claim that the car is still under warranty with AD and is serviced by the AD workshop. His company got the car from AD to sell. I tried asking for the servicing records or receipt of the last servicing but he do not have as he claimed that all records are computerized now and AD wont pass it to dealer. He said the car already got the AD servicing decal stating the next servicing date and mileage at the windscreen, so no need worry. I personally think milelage can be tempered why decal cannot be forge therefore i called the workshop myself to check when is the next scheduled date for the car but the workshop said they do not have the record of the car. WOW. I called the SE again to ask for the servicing record since he got the car from the AD directly to sell and i also told him i called the workshop already but the workshop said no records. The SE then tell me because the carplate number is new one thats why no record. I can only check when i am the registered owner of the car. I dont mind if the SE tempered the mileage, at least i can know the real mileage so that i know when should be the next servicing and i need to check the engine n chasis number to see did anything happen to the car before. Car B - Older than Car A. Grooming not as good as Car A. Engine is ok, but Head Unit display got some problem. Servicing done by AD workshop with decal and receipt in the car. Therefore mileage should be true but this car already have 2 owners. Any expert out there to provide some advice which car to choose. Personally I am incline choosing Car A, advice me what to do before i make a decision. Ask the dealer for the old number plate, call AD again to check it out. Edited July 11, 2019 by Ct3833 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQDreamer 4th Gear July 11, 2019 Share July 11, 2019 I have some queries with regards to getting 2nd hand car from dealer. I need some advice to consider my option. I had actually shortlisted 2 cars from different dealer (which i will describe the scenario below as Car A and Car B). Do help me and advice which car to choose and what should I do. I understand there is a lot of myths of SE not being honest especially on mileage, servicing records, accident free records, inspection report as this will affect their asking price. Most SE will try to get you pay deposit and promise you all the things you highlighted will be rectified but when the buyer collect the car and it is not delivered as promise thus buyers having bad experience. Car A - Age is younger than Car B. Overall condition (interior and exterior) of car is better than Car B. Engine no problem. The problem with this car is that SE claim that the car is still under warranty with AD and is serviced by the AD workshop. His company got the car from AD to sell. I tried asking for the servicing records or receipt of the last servicing but he do not have as he claimed that all records are computerized now and AD wont pass it to dealer. He said the car already got the AD servicing decal stating the next servicing date and mileage at the windscreen, so no need worry. I personally think milelage can be tempered why decal cannot be forge therefore i called the workshop myself to check when is the next scheduled date for the car but the workshop said they do not have the record of the car. WOW. I called the SE again to ask for the servicing record since he got the car from the AD directly to sell and i also told him i called the workshop already but the workshop said no records. The SE then tell me because the carplate number is new one thats why no record. I can only check when i am the registered owner of the car. I dont mind if the SE tempered the mileage, at least i can know the real mileage so that i know when should be the next servicing and i need to check the engine n chasis number to see did anything happen to the car before. Car B - Older than Car A. Grooming not as good as Car A. Engine is ok, but Head Unit display got some problem. Servicing done by AD workshop with decal and receipt in the car. Therefore mileage should be true but this car already have 2 owners. Any expert out there to provide some advice which car to choose. Personally I am incline choosing Car A, advice me what to do before i make a decision. my personal opinion to you is, if you are septical about car A than give it a miss. buying car we must feel comfortable from viewing and discussing about pricing till the end of the sales deal with the dealer. for your case, there is always STA to sent in for a full car check with report by paying a fee. Just go with your heart to choose, however if you find that the car is ok just go ahead. Mileage wise for 2nd hand car is although important but may have be tweaked. What we can check is the exterior checks, abnormal sound in and out of engine cabin and the handling when test driving. Importantly you must be happy of what you choose. End of the day, the car will be with you for a couple of years? Just go with you heart. if not comfortable and in doubt, clarify first. If still feel no good. Than the deal is a no go. I believe there are still many same models in the 2nd hand market. Take your time to choose. Importantly dont rush and get pressured by the sales dealers. All the best. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teohwahwa Clutched July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 I pay 10k to him, he tell me i only downpayment 7.5k then the rest is road tax, admin fee etc etcBro i think u kanna the same tactics as me and all this is dealer ownself arranged and last min force u sign. With all the time delaying tactics after deposits pay. It may be the same group. Get in touch me. 98060680 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaw819 4th Gear July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 Importantly the whole assembly is different Learn from the inspection center that LTA has instructed them to make sure the car model stick to original head/tail lights that come directly from factory. Anything changed will failed inspection, unless have official letter from distributor saying old model head/tail lights no longer available from AD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQDreamer 4th Gear July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 Learn from the inspection center that LTA has instructed them to make sure the car model stick to original head/tail lights that come directly from factory. Anything changed will failed inspection, unless have official letter from distributor saying old model head/tail lights no longer available from AD. i have just gone for my ar inspection last friday. nowadays the checking is more through on the headlights and also tail lights. They wanted to see if the bulbs have been changed eg: glass bulbs to LED types. If your car original comes with glass bulbs than it has to be glass type and not LED. Overall they are more particular now especially on the headlights and tail lights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaw819 4th Gear July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 i have just gone for my ar inspection last friday. nowadays the checking is more through on the headlights and also tail lights. They wanted to see if the bulbs have been changed eg: glass bulbs to LED types. If your car original comes with glass bulbs than it has to be glass type and not LED. Overall they are more particular now especially on the headlights and tail lights. True. However will depends on the light design as I have changed my T10 bulb to led and passed. Luckily my tail light design you will not be able to tell the type of bulb used (blocked). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridguy 1st Gear July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 Ask the dealer for the old number plate, call AD again to check it out.I give up on this car my personal opinion to you is, if you are septical about car A than give it a miss. buying car we must feel comfortable from viewing and discussing about pricing till the end of the sales deal with the dealer. for your case, there is always STA to sent in for a full car check with report by paying a fee. Just go with your heart to choose, however if you find that the car is ok just go ahead. Mileage wise for 2nd hand car is although important but may have be tweaked. What we can check is the exterior checks, abnormal sound in and out of engine cabin and the handling when test driving. Importantly you must be happy of what you choose. End of the day, the car will be with you for a couple of years? Just go with you heart. if not comfortable and in doubt, clarify first. If still feel no good. Than the deal is a no go. I believe there are still many same models in the 2nd hand market. Take your time to choose. Importantly dont rush and get pressured by the sales dealers. All the best. Thank you for the advice. I will shop around for more alternative. You are right, i must feel comfortable for the entire experience. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ika_tomas 1st Gear July 17, 2019 Share July 17, 2019 Actually not true as bought a few cars before at this 2 places and no problems whatsoever. You need to do some homework before buying 2nd hand and you should be fine. Always remember if it is too good to be true then better walk away rather than be sorry later. Fair point. Not worth the hassle though by my book. Too much irritation dealing with the oily salesmen that seem to be a dime a dozen there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royfeevas 1st Gear July 24, 2019 Share July 24, 2019 (edited) Here is a good guide from one of our contributors ...I have arranged it alphabetically for all. 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West Coast Used Car CentreSingapore 117864 67760119 67783391 29 Oct 2021 18 Hoe Beng Auto Trading CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 3 Ang Mo Kio Street 62#01-20 Link@AMKSingapore 569139 67450138 68460138 2 Aug 2022 19 HTS Motor Cars Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 15 Commonwealth LaneLot 51 Commonwealth Car MallSingapore 149554 8102 7700 6475 2133 18 Nov 2022 20 Igua Motoring Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 210 Turf Club RoadA47 The GrandstandSingapore 287995 63839000 62869000 2 Jun 2023 21 Index Credit Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 210 Turf Club RoadLot B73 The GrandstandSingapore 287995 64620777 62583593 2 Jan 2023 22 Jack Cars Enterprise Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 61 Ubi Avenue 201-19/20 Automobile MegamartSingapore 408898 67441900 67444456 7 Jul 2019 23 JCWC Automobile Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 21 Toh Guan Road East#01-21/22 Toh Guan CentreSingapore 608609 6569 6969 6569 2969 7 Dec 2020 24 Jia Leong Trading Enterprise Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 61 Ubi Avenue 2#02-19 Automobile MegamartSingapore 408898 6841 5997 6844 0686 4 Jul 2022 25 Juzt Carz Auto CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 73 Mackenzie Road#5-00 Singapore 228729 63383813 63383515 26 Jul 2022 26 Kao Lian Enterprise CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 73 Mackenzie RoadLot 9 Mackenzie Car MallSingapore 228729 63821198 63822168 26 Jul 2022 27 Lay Auto Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 21 Toh Guan Road East#01-16/17 Toh Guan CentreSingapore 608609 6466 5828 6468 1179 5 Dec 2020 28 Mandai Motor Trading CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 31 West Coast Highway#01-09 West Coast Used Car CentreSingapore 117864 67775585 67758755 23 Sep 2022 29 Mayfair Motoring 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Jun 2021 46 Think One Automobile & Trading Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 61 Ubi Avenue 2#05-02/03 Automobile MegamartSingapore 408898 65553300 6842 2330 25 Apr 2022 47 Thong Lee Trading Private Limited CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 3 Ang Mo Kio Street 62#01-15/16 Link@AMKSingapore 569139 6256 9655 6256 6298 14 Nov 2020 48 Tradeit.com Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 25 Kaki Bukit Road 4#08-30 Synergy @ KBSingapore 417800 63841755 63841744 31 Oct 2022 49 Trust Motor Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 73 Mackenzie Road#01-17 & 18 Mackenzie Used Car CentreSingapore 228729 63384472 63384471 16 Aug 2022 50 Venture Cars Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 30 Ubi Road 4 Singapore 408615 6289 8800 6858 2120 23 Aug 2020 51 Vin's Auto Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 160 Sin Ming Drive#03-03 Sin Ming AutocitySingapore 575722 64532121 64599795 10 Dec 2022 52 Vincent Auto Trading CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 73 Mackenzie RoadLot 1 Mackenzie Car MallSingapore 228729 67438289 67437800 23 Apr 2022 53 Yong Lee Seng Motor Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 61 Ubi Avenue 2#03-05 Automobile MegamartSingapore 408898 68440123 68441618 5 Mar 2022 54 Zion Auto Gallery Pte Ltd CaseTrust-SVTA Joint Accreditation for Motoring Businesses 159 Sin Ming Road#01-01 Amtech BuildingSingapore 575625 64525565 64524535 29 Jan 2023 Edited July 24, 2019 by Royfeevas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer75 Neutral Newbie July 26, 2019 Share July 26, 2019 Hi Guys, any review on Inchape, a friend of mine recommended me this dealer. Tried to find whether there is any review on this dealer but couldn't find any. Pls help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic July 26, 2019 Share July 26, 2019 Hi Guys, any review on Inchape, a friend of mine recommended me this dealer. Tried to find whether there is any review on this dealer but couldn't find any. Pls help.You sure you search ? Inchape is the distributor for Toyota, Lexus and Suzuki car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstuff 4th Gear July 26, 2019 Share July 26, 2019 Hi Guys, any review on Inchape, a friend of mine recommended me this dealer. Tried to find whether there is any review on this dealer but couldn't find any. Pls help. you mean this Inchcape (not Inchape)? https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?DL=3345 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer75 Neutral Newbie July 26, 2019 Share July 26, 2019 you mean this Inchcape (not Inchape)? https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?DL=3345 Sorry typo error, yes is Inchcape pre owned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic July 26, 2019 Share July 26, 2019 Sorry typo error, yes is Inchcape pre owned. You go to their showroom, they have the same Inchape logo. Basically, they are selling better quality used Toyota that they take in from their trade in customer. Similar to Republic Auto for mMrc and Prime select for BMW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer75 Neutral Newbie July 26, 2019 Share July 26, 2019 You go to their showroom, they have the same Inchape logo. Basically, they are selling better quality used Toyota that they take in from their trade in customer. Similar to Republic Auto for mMrc and Prime select for BMW. Ok noted thks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypedkid Neutral Newbie July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 How about Monster Motors Pte Ltd, any experience? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevekk Clutched July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Anyone has comment about D&L auto trading at textile centre? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevekk Clutched July 28, 2019 Share July 28, 2019 Not sure if u are still on this page can u share with me moreHi bro, u managed to get reply from the people? I’m also looking at D&L. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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