Used Car Dealers Feedback (Part 2)!

[Ct3833]

  On 2/16/2019 at 1:28 AM, Zeagle said:

Hi,

 

Agreement has been signed and my old car has been transferred to the used car dealer. Collected the new car but the new car has yet to be transferred to my name (it almost 2 weeks). is it normal to take this long (cos its done over the CNY period)?

It is not normal, your used car could be transferred so quickly, like wise your new car could. Follow up closely with them to find out what is wrong. If it is reputable dealer, then you are likely to be safe, probably some admin reasons.

So far I bought 2 from direct owner, we did our transfer at LTA, on the spot. I bought 1 from Fulco, the guy came to my house to collect my IC, did the transfer and number plate retention on my behalf all in the same day except he took 2 days to prepare the rentention documentation in advance.

 

All the best.

Edited February 16, 2019 by Ct3833

[Zeagle]

On onemotoring web:

 

When you buy or sell a second-hand vehicle, or when a vehicle changes hands, the ownership of vehicle must be transferred to the new owner within 7 days.

 

Is this a requirement by LTA that dealers needs to adhere to? Can i use this to cancel the purchase, return the car and get my old car back with no penalty?

 

 

[Ct3833]

  On 2/16/2019 at 1:55 AM, Zeagle said:

On onemotoring web:

 

When you buy or sell a second-hand vehicle, or when a vehicle changes hands, the ownership of vehicle must be transferred to the new owner within 7 days.

 

Is this a requirement by LTA that dealers needs to adhere to? Can i use this to cancel the purchase, return the car and get my old car back with no penalty?

 

My suggestion is not. Your sales agreement has been signed, your used car has been transferred. The dealer will tell you your car has been sold. The only way out is to move forward, go ask them transfer the new car ownership to you. Ask them why and see what story they are going to spin, maybe genuine reasons. asked them for a date, cannot be 2 more weeks, has to be in 1 or 2 days. Otherwise you will have to be worried.

[Zeagle]

  On 2/16/2019 at 2:01 AM, Ct3833 said:

My suggestion is not. Your sales agreement has been signed, your used car has been transferred. The dealer will tell you your car has been sold. The only way out is to move forward, go ask them transfer the new car ownership to you. Ask them why and see what story they are going to spin, maybe genuine reasons. asked them for a date, cannot be 2 more weeks, has to be in 1 or 2 days. Otherwise you will have to be worried.

 

i checked that my old car has already been put up for sale (and still available).

 

Ok. will continue to check with the dealer for a transfer date. If it really going to be delayed further, that means i have no choice but to wait or is there any other option (cancel agreement, legal, etc) i can consider?

[Yr1985]

Hi, what you guys think of 2008 Lancer GLX manual in terms of parts availability abd ease of maintenance?

Edited February 17, 2019 by Yr1985

[Hamburger]

  On 2/17/2019 at 4:12 AM, Yr1985 said:

Hi, what you guys think of 2008 Lancer GLX manual in terms of parts availability abd ease of maintenance?

One best choice for simple car ownership with minimum frills.

[BernardPhua_13563]

I am going to get my first car, and alot of advise shared here has been useful in making me very cautious in approaching dealers. I tried searching feedback for this dealer "Passionate Cars Pte Ltd" but could not find any. https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?DL=3277

 

Another one is "Precise Auto Trading". They have a fabulous car servicing business, but could not find any feedback on their car sales. 

 

Anyone has previous experience with them?

[Ct3833]

  On 2/17/2019 at 6:35 AM, BernardPhua_13563 said:

I am going to get my first car, and alot of advise shared here has been useful in making me very cautious in approaching dealers. I tried searching feedback for this dealer "Passionate Cars Pte Ltd" but could not find any. https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?DL=3277

 

Another one is "Precise Auto Trading". They have a fabulous car servicing business, but could not find any feedback on their car sales. 

 

Anyone has previous experience with them?

any reasons why you are looking specifically these two ? 

[BernardPhua_13563]

These 2 names never pop up in any blacklist so far, and both of them have the cars I am looking for a Vios or a City.

[Wallaw819]

  On 2/17/2019 at 3:08 PM, BernardPhua_13563 said:

These 2 names never pop up in any blacklist so far, and both of them have the cars I am looking for a Vios or a City.

 

Never pop up can be both good and bad.

 

Good - Reliable.

Bad - New company and no feedback yet.

 

Anyway just go in with your eyes open and take all the precautions listed in this thread and you should be fine.

 

Car hunting (first car some more) should fun and exciting! 

 

[Fcw75]

Remember to chant this:

 

Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.

 

 

This is the feeling I get when I walk thru ubi megamart or turf city.

Edited February 18, 2019 by Fcw75

[Lanceraz]

  On 2/17/2019 at 4:12 AM, Yr1985 said:

Hi, what you guys think of 2008 Lancer GLX manual in terms of parts availability abd ease of maintenance?

mostly available.....and easy to maintain.

[BernardPhua_13563]

  On 2/17/2019 at 6:35 AM, BernardPhua_13563 said:

I am going to get my first car, and alot of advise shared here has been useful in making me very cautious in approaching dealers. I tried searching feedback for this dealer "Passionate Cars Pte Ltd" but could not find any. https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?DL=3277

 

Another one is "Precise Auto Trading". They have a fabulous car servicing business, but could not find any feedback on their car sales. 

 

Anyone has previous experience with them?

 

Sharing my experience as I walked this harrowing journey with the unknown...

 

Went to view a used Honda City at Precise Auto.. Though the photo looked damn nice, was told that the car was in its pre-touchup condition. Went to see and lo-and-behold, the photo taking skills really better than photo studio. Has quite a number of deep scratches on the back bumper and one of the side mirror lights. Was told that they will touch up until showroom condition. However, other than that the sales rep was quite accommodating, let me test drive and answered all my questions. But I have one question for the veterans here, i thought under lemon law dealers must give 6 months warranty? they only offer 3 months on engine and gearbox.

 

 

Also, I realised that Passionate Cars Pte Ltd may be operating under the name of 1st Auto Pte Ltd. Ask for location to view. Googled the address:

 

[Mkl22]

  On 2/18/2019 at 2:43 PM, BernardPhua_13563 said:

Sharing my experience as I walked this harrowing journey with the unknown...

 

Went to view a used Honda City at Precise Auto.. Though the photo looked damn nice, was told that the car was in its pre-touchup condition. Went to see and lo-and-behold, the photo taking skills really better than photo studio. Has quite a number of deep scratches on the back bumper and one of the side mirror lights. Was told that they will touch up until showroom condition. However, other than that the sales rep was quite accommodating, let me test drive and answered all my questions. But I have one question for the veterans here, i thought under lemon law dealers must give 6 months warranty? they only offer 3 months on engine and gearbox.

 

 

Also, I realised that Passionate Cars Pte Ltd may be operating under the name of 1st Auto Pte Ltd. Ask for location to view. Googled the address:

 

If so many doubts, don’t buy. Plenty of cars and dealers out there.

[Ct3833]

  On 2/18/2019 at 2:43 PM, BernardPhua_13563 said:

Sharing my experience as I walked this harrowing journey with the unknown...

 

Went to view a used Honda City at Precise Auto.. Though the photo looked damn nice, was told that the car was in its pre-touchup condition. Went to see and lo-and-behold, the photo taking skills really better than photo studio. Has quite a number of deep scratches on the back bumper and one of the side mirror lights. Was told that they will touch up until showroom condition. However, other than that the sales rep was quite accommodating, let me test drive and answered all my questions. But I have one question for the veterans here, i thought under lemon law dealers must give 6 months warranty? they only offer 3 months on engine and gearbox.

 

 

Also, I realised that Passionate Cars Pte Ltd may be operating under the name of 1st Auto Pte Ltd. Ask for location to view. Googled the address:

 

 

when buying an old car, you have to assume that there is no lemon law, if you have to take that route, it will cause you a lot of energy, effort, time, frustration, and even money. 

If you are in doubt with a company or a car, dont buy.

I am not saying all dealers are bad, but the problem is every face is written with the word honest, you dont know who is who. 

Before you buy a car, the car must be in the shape and condition you want before you hand over any deposit, You have to assume that all the promise are empty promise. Dont be too quick to hand over money, dont get pressurize by sales tactics.

My suggestion is, take it as you will buy a car only in 3 months time, take your time to view more car, see more dealers. The more you do , the more familiar you will be with the car you want, and get to see the dealers pattern , know how to deal with them. Make this a learning journey.

The more relax and uninterested you appear to a dealer ,  likely the more desperate  the sales will want to give you good deal.

[DACH]

  On 2/18/2019 at 2:43 PM, BernardPhua_13563 said:

Sharing my experience as I walked this harrowing journey with the unknown...

 

Went to view a used Honda City at Precise Auto.. Though the photo looked damn nice, was told that the car was in its pre-touchup condition. Went to see and lo-and-behold, the photo taking skills really better than photo studio. Has quite a number of deep scratches on the back bumper and one of the side mirror lights. Was told that they will touch up until showroom condition. However, other than that the sales rep was quite accommodating, let me test drive and answered all my questions. But I have one question for the veterans here, i thought under lemon law dealers must give 6 months warranty? they only offer 3 months on engine and gearbox.

 

 

Also, I realised that Passionate Cars Pte Ltd may be operating under the name of 1st Auto Pte Ltd. Ask for location to view. Googled the address:

 

 

If you are uncomfortable with the car, look at other choices in the market.

Honda City is a common BnB car. Sure will have more choices with other dealers.

 

How's the test drive of the car? Anything unusual or you feel uncomfortable with?

[Daryllim69]

  On 2/18/2019 at 3:17 PM, Ct3833 said:

when buying an old car, you have to assume that there is no lemon law, if you have to take that route, it will cause you a lot of energy, effort, time, frustration, and even money. 

If you are in doubt with a company or a car, dont buy.

I am not saying all dealers are bad, but the problem is every face is written with the word honest, you dont know who is who. 

Before you buy a car, the car must be in the shape and condition you want before you hand over any deposit, You have to assume that all the promise are empty promise. Dont be too quick to hand over money, dont get pressurize by sales tactics.

My suggestion is, take it as you will buy a car only in 3 months time, take your time to view more car, see more dealers. The more you do , the more familiar you will be with the car you want, and get to see the dealers pattern , know how to deal with them. Make this a learning journey.

The more relax and uninterested you appear to a dealer ,  likely the more desperate  the sales will want to give you good deal.

 

When buying a used car, I choose a different perspective in that I assume all car dealers are bad and dishonest. That way, I will be forced to do my own personal homework and put in my best effort to assess the car condition and make sure that the car I am getting is worth the money that I will be paying. It is better to be safe than sorry.

[ntuc2018]

I would say, forget about lemon law. They can always blame on other things. Most important is if

1. Leaking or not

2. Mileage real or not

3. Test drive got sound or not

 

If in doubt, always remember, there are better deals other place. No need to pressure urself into buying.