Darthrevan Supercharged January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 (edited) Sharp-eyed speedsters who slam on the brakes when they spot a speed camera may soon not escape a ticket, if a new speed enforcement system due to go on trial is eventually implemented. The "average speed enforcement system", according to tender documents the police put up on the Government electronic procurement portal on Dec 19, will measure vehicle speeds over a distance to nab speeding motorists. This means that errant motorists cannot slow down just before or speed up right after speed cameras to evade the law, as they do now with the "point-based static speed enforcement system". The new system will be tested out along the Pan-Island Expressway and Changi Coast Road for at least a month, according to the tender documents. Changi Coast Road, in particular, is a well-known black spot. In May last year, a cyclist was killed after being hit by a lorry, which only came to a halt about 200m away, according to reports. According to the tender documents, the police noted that other jurisdictions have in recent years started implementing speed enforcement systems that measure the average speed of vehicles over a predefined distance. For example, several Australian states have implemented these since 2001. In New South Wales, there are 25 point-to-point speed cameras installed along the various highways specifically targeting heavy vehicles. "(The Singapore Police Force) intends to conduct a trial to evaluate the suitability of such systems for implementation in Singapore," the tender documents said. The average speed enforcement system works by recording the time a vehicle takes to travel between two points to calculate its average speed. Speed detectors placed at the start and end points - to be determined in consultation with the Land Transport Authority - will record the timestamp and vehicle licence plates. Speed limits here range from 40kmh on smaller roads to 90kmh on expressways. In the last three years, the number of speeding violations here has surged. Between January and November last year, the Traffic Police booked nearly 225,000 motorists for speeding - a daily average of 673 offences. In 2011, the figure for the whole year was 225,500, or 617 daily, compared to 205,000 cases in 2010. Over the years, the police have deployed speed cameras at more locations. In 2008, there were speed cameras along 38 roads. This has risen to 53 roads now. Red-light camera system to go digital? In a separate tender issued last month, the Traffic Police also called for the implementation of a "Digital Traffic Red Light System". The new system must be able to capture and store digital images of motorists who beat red lights. These will then be sent to a backend computer system to be used as evidence, according to tender documents. Currently, the red-light camera systems here still use film. Just last week, a video clip of a motorcyclist hitting a woman pedestrian after beating a red light along Woodlands Avenue 6 went viral online. The footage was captured on the in-car camera of a motorist. Last year, there were 16,442 red-light violations between January and November. And in the previous year, there were 17,490 such cases, a shade higher than the 17,180 in 2010. Source: http://www.todayonline.com/Hotnews/EDC1301...s-on-speedsters Edited January 4, 2013 by Darthrevan ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 might as well go catch road hoggers who are causing the slow down.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 What they *should* be doing is reviewing the speed limits on our roads with a view to making them much higher than they currently are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 Guess chiongsters days are numbered yes? They can either tone it down or choose this: Source: http://www.icars.sg/2009/1600/public-trans...fares-for-2009/ , this: Source: http://www.investinpassiveincome.com/smrt-...ends-in-future/ , this: Source: http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/news/archive...in-mid-nov.html or this: Source: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/638/48259675.jpg/sr=1 Take your pick [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanoyip Turbocharged January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 If you been to NSW or any parts in Australia, you notice that nobody speeds there. Nobody goes over the speed limit even if there's a clear road ahead. And yes, they deploy those avg speed to track your speed over a distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanevomax 1st Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 xxxx LTA/TP , they are just making the road traffic slower and slower ... road hogger will slow up to 20km/hr compare to their current speed...... why dont they just implant speed cut on every xxxxing single car better.... like army style.... what they want is just money , money and money .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanevomax 1st Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 On 1/4/2013 at 9:07 AM, Beanoyip said: If you been to NSW or any parts in Australia, you notice that nobody speeds there. Nobody goes over the speed limit even if there's a clear road ahead. And yes, they deploy those avg speed to track your speed over a distance. In Dubai , there is no speed limit..... if you want to compare this and that , it never end.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_club23 4th Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 On 1/4/2013 at 9:07 AM, Beanoyip said: If you been to NSW or any parts in Australia, you notice that nobody speeds there. Nobody goes over the speed limit even if there's a clear road ahead. And yes, they deploy those avg speed to track your speed over a distance. Also, nobody gets stuck in massive jams there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejok 1st Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 On 1/4/2013 at 8:42 AM, Darthrevan said: Sharp-eyed speedsters who slam on the brakes when they spot a speed camera may soon not escape a ticket, if a new speed enforcement system due to go on trial is eventually implemented. The "average speed enforcement system", according to tender documents the police put up on the Government electronic procurement portal on Dec 19, will measure vehicle speeds over a distance to nab speeding motorists. This means that errant motorists cannot slow down just before or speed up right after speed cameras to evade the law, as they do now with the "point-based static speed enforcement system". The new system will be tested out along the Pan-Island Expressway and Changi Coast Road for at least a month, according to the tender documents. Changi Coast Road, in particular, is a well-known black spot. In May last year, a cyclist was killed after being hit by a lorry, which only came to a halt about 200m away, according to reports. According to the tender documents, the police noted that other jurisdictions have in recent years started implementing speed enforcement systems that measure the average speed of vehicles over a predefined distance. For example, several Australian states have implemented these since 2001. In New South Wales, there are 25 point-to-point speed cameras installed along the various highways specifically targeting heavy vehicles. "(The Singapore Police Force) intends to conduct a trial to evaluate the suitability of such systems for implementation in Singapore," the tender documents said. The average speed enforcement system works by recording the time a vehicle takes to travel between two points to calculate its average speed. Speed detectors placed at the start and end points - to be determined in consultation with the Land Transport Authority - will record the timestamp and vehicle licence plates. Speed limits here range from 40kmh on smaller roads to 90kmh on expressways. In the last three years, the number of speeding violations here has surged. Between January and November last year, the Traffic Police booked nearly 225,000 motorists for speeding - a daily average of 673 offences. In 2011, the figure for the whole year was 225,500, or 617 daily, compared to 205,000 cases in 2010. Over the years, the police have deployed speed cameras at more locations. In 2008, there were speed cameras along 38 roads. This has risen to 53 roads now. Red-light camera system to go digital? In a separate tender issued last month, the Traffic Police also called for the implementation of a "Digital Traffic Red Light System". The new system must be able to capture and store digital images of motorists who beat red lights. These will then be sent to a backend computer system to be used as evidence, according to tender documents. Currently, the red-light camera systems here still use film. Just last week, a video clip of a motorcyclist hitting a woman pedestrian after beating a red light along Woodlands Avenue 6 went viral online. The footage was captured on the in-car camera of a motorist. Last year, there were 16,442 red-light violations between January and November. And in the previous year, there were 17,490 such cases, a shade higher than the 17,180 in 2010. Source: http://www.todayonline.com/Hotnews/EDC1301...s-on-speedsters Good! Impose super heavy penalty on those who beat red light too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baphomet 3rd Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 im fine as long as they just limit it to expressway..... some roads speed limit 60 or less... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypermiler 1st Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 Alamak. Then no more vehicle collisions and accidents for entertainment. No chance for my curse to work anymore. That's sad. It will mean many morons will get to keep their COE for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanoyip Turbocharged January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 On 1/4/2013 at 9:10 AM, Lanevomax said: In Dubai , there is no speed limit..... if you want to compare this and that , it never end.... I'm just stating that the method does refrain drivers from speeding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoloe 1st Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 anyone watched this segment on top gear before? jezza sped all the way through the highway and stopped just before the average speed camera and had a cup of coffee while waiting for time to pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Turbocharged January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 I just did a quick calculation. For a 10km stretch of road with 70km/h speed limit, if you take a 5 minutes cigarette break between the cameras (assuming there are 10km apart), you can do 168km/h to get an average speed of 70km/h. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkblue 1st Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 On 1/4/2013 at 10:33 AM, Phang said: I just did a quick calculation. For a 10km stretch of road with 70km/h speed limit, if you take a 5 minutes cigarette break between the cameras (assuming there are 10km apart), you can do 168km/h to get an average speed of 70km/h. Yea true... If every pause is 1 seconds, 70 - 80 - 90 - 100 - 109 (Average 89.8 km/h over span of 5 seconds). Very safe driver ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 (edited) On 1/4/2013 at 8:57 AM, Neutrino said: The roads have been designed for the speed limits now in place. They cannot simply be increased. And with the present overcrowding of roads an increase of speed limit is pointless. The roads were designed long, long ago when cars had less power, less effective braking and lousy handling without traction control and other driver aids. The speed limits have not kept apace of improvements in car technology that allow people to drive quicker more safely. I never said they should "simply" be increased. A detailed study is needed, but it should be undertaken. Overcrowding has many causes. Poor design of some roads and intersections, poor coordination of traffic light timing and bad driving habits are some of the major factors that are eminently deserving of corrective action. In any case, not every road is crowded every second of every day, and it is clear that there are many roads which are capable of permitting a much higher speed than they're currently limited to. And it's not just expressways either, just look at Lim Chu Kang. Yeah, like 70 is a reasonable limit there. Edited January 4, 2013 by Turboflat4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaywhy Neutral Newbie January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 its prob gonna cause more congestions. cuz of humji drivers who keep like 10kmh or more below the speed limit.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfly1 1st Gear January 4, 2013 Share January 4, 2013 I came from England where u have speed camera every 2 metres, i have experienced with average speed camera. There used to have loophole in this system where they can only track the car in the same lane, ie if you keep zig zag along the PIE you may get away with it. Dont know this gen average speed camera can get around this. Other way to counter this is Reflective number plate with coating that they cant catch ur number plate on camera. Otherwise, GPS with built in alert system to tell u all the fixed location of average camera if available in local market. Obviously the easy way is dont speed! And no stress..... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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