Darthrevan Supercharged December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 For those who likes to tailgate..this is why its recommended to keep a car length's distance for every 10 km/h of speed travelled Source: http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sg...up_at_ecp.html# ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkwlb Neutral Newbie December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 (edited) karma for tailgaters I passed trough the stretch right after this happened. Edited December 28, 2012 by Wkwlb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercs Hypersonic December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 For those who likes to tailgate..this is why its recommended to keep a car length's distance for every 10 km/h of speed travelled So travelling on ECP with 90km speed limit, every car must be at least 9 car lengths apart? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsr729 1st Gear December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 The last guy hor say liao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayspiderx 3rd Gear December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 Yesterday came across two other chain collisions on ecp at 1700 on keppel viaduct n near mbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiftee Clutched December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 For those who likes to tailgate..this is why its recommended to keep a car length's distance for every 10 km/h of speed travelled Source: http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sg...up_at_ecp.html# I always try to keep a safe distance from the car infront. But seriously no use one... out of 10 time, 9 times behind some flashy car or even taxi will tail gate until very close forcing you to close the gap. This is ugly side of driving here...few years back the situation not so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nainar 1st Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 So travelling on ECP with 90km speed limit, every car must be at least 9 car lengths apart? Yes, a gap of 2-3 seconds between two adjacent cars are required for safe driving. It looks laughable given the situation in Singapore but if you apply your mind, you will know the math. If all the cars are moving at 90 kmph and having this gap is not going to lengthen your journey time. If the overall speed slows down to 60 kmph, then the gap can be reduced.Luckily Singapore does not see snow. I wonder what will happen with the kind of tailgating happening here, if there is a bit of snow and ice, where the safe distance increases to 6-8 seconds. I for one don't get perturbed by such antics of tailgaters but follow the safe driving, as well as if I have to brake, I brake in stages so that the driver behind is warned in advance. Sure, I might wear out the brake pads a 1000 km ahead of its scheduled replacement, but it is better than being in an accident. This accident is a classic case of irresponsible tail gating, not by one or two drivers but by ten of them at the same time!!! Laws of nature cannot handle such a group at the same time. Feel sorry for them, but hope the drivers learn a lesson or two from this accident on safe distances. Nainar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrimie Clutched December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 like that singapore roads where got enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matdxb Neutral Newbie December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 I might sound cruel, but they deserve it. It is common sense not to tailgate. 10 cars involved it is insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion 5th Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 No need to keep 9 car length away. With our modern car and technology, 2 car length for 90km/h is good enough. Anything happen, just slam onto the brake, the car will stop within next 50m. Of course, tua lorry have to keep bigger distance due to the brake use and set up of the lorry. Other than that, saloon can just keep 2 car length away and maintain high vigilance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nainar 1st Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 No need to keep 9 car length away. With our modern car and technology, 2 car length for 90km/h is good enough. Anything happen, just slam onto the brake, the car will stop within next 50m. Of course, tua lorry have to keep bigger distance due to the brake use and set up of the lorry. Other than that, saloon can just keep 2 car length away and maintain high vigilance. Can you back it up with science please? There is a specification of 60-0 stopping distance which defines how much distance a car needs to slow down from 60 mph to a complete stop. And it all around 110-120 feet for the modern cars in perfect test conditions. Laws of physics cannot be tampered with. A 2000 kg moving mass at 90 kmph has so much of energy to be dissipated to come to a complete halt. No amount of magic can make it happen in two car distance. And on top of this add the variables like the type of tyre, road surface condition all of which increases the stopping distance. And on top of this add the reaction time of the driver. The performance numbers published cleverly exclude the reaction time. Please do not presume that modern cars can defy physics. How much ever vigilant you are, and you apply brakes at the right time seeing the accident, you still need 120 feet to stop with out banging the car ahead. If you want to drive safely, these are non-negotiable. Period. Nainar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF 4th Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 Wonder have anyone ever kept a 9-car length distance from the vehicle in front when traveling at 90km/h? If I keep a 3-car length, others will cut in. Then I keep 3-car length again but others cut in again. This will continue until eventually I'll be the last car in the lane. Why make yourself so difficult? I would rather travel in the slower lane and slower speed while enjoying the drive, which I do on my usual day driving......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 At least 10 cars will be at the respective workshops when 2013 arrives. To be fair, the first car owner was the only innocent party even if he or she did an emergency brake. All the rest behind simply did not observe a safety stopping distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny76 Clutched December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 No need to keep 9 car length away. With our modern car and technology, 2 car length for 90km/h is good enough. Anything happen, just slam onto the brake, the car will stop within next 50m. Of course, tua lorry have to keep bigger distance due to the brake use and set up of the lorry. Other than that, saloon can just keep 2 car length away and maintain high vigilance. Bro, that's a dangerous assumption... if the car in front has better braking power and better tyre grip than your car, i.e. it can stop in shorter distance than your car, you'll be sorry.... The two second rule is a much better/safer way (and well proven) to gauge... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canceria 1st Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 All the road hoggers will sure come in to this thread and start talking about how safe they have been driving. Pls stay clear of lane 1! U could keep 10 cars distance and no one will be bothered. Yes, a gap of 2-3 seconds between two adjacent cars are required for safe driving. It looks laughable given the situation in Singapore but if you apply your mind, you will know the math. If all the cars are moving at 90 kmph and having this gap is not going to lengthen your journey time. If the overall speed slows down to 60 kmph, then the gap can be reduced.Luckily Singapore does not see snow. I wonder what will happen with the kind of tailgating happening here, if there is a bit of snow and ice, where the safe distance increases to 6-8 seconds. I for one don't get perturbed by such antics of tailgaters but follow the safe driving, as well as if I have to brake, I brake in stages so that the driver behind is warned in advance. Sure, I might wear out the brake pads a 1000 km ahead of its scheduled replacement, but it is better than being in an accident. This accident is a classic case of irresponsible tail gating, not by one or two drivers but by ten of them at the same time!!! Laws of nature cannot handle such a group at the same time. Feel sorry for them, but hope the drivers learn a lesson or two from this accident on safe distances. Nainar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxilplix Turbocharged December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 No need to keep 9 car length away. With our modern car and technology, 2 car length for 90km/h is good enough. Anything happen, just slam onto the brake, the car will stop within next 50m. Of course, tua lorry have to keep bigger distance due to the brake use and set up of the lorry. Other than that, saloon can just keep 2 car length away and maintain high vigilance. Tailgater spotted! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 At least 10 cars will be at the respective workshops when 2013 arrives. To be fair, the first car owner was the only innocent party even if he or she did an emergency brake. All the rest behind simply did not observe a safety stopping distance. Maybe first car from workshop and did it purposely? Or maybe a kuku driver slam brake so hard to slow down for a pool of water?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera Clutched December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 siao bo.. keep 9 car lengths at 90kph.. i will overtake the bugger who does that like a boss without a guilty conscience and i will have a good look at the driver. If the driver is a female, then i will look a bit more and forget it. If the driver is a male, then... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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