Vulcann 6th Gear December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 Anyone remember this "Bear"? Understand he didn't like SPEC OPS troopers but had to eat huimble pie when they proved to be an invlauable asset in locating the Scud missile launcher sites during Operation Desert Storm. A colourful character nonetheless. Anyway R.I.P. Bear... From CNA: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp...1244877/1/.html 'Stormin Norman' Schwarzkopf dies Posted: 28 December 2012 1515 hrs WASHINGTON: Norman Schwarzkopf, the US general who drove Saddam Hussein's forces from Kuwait in 1991 as commander of the lightning campaign known as Operation Desert Storm, died Thursday at the age of 78. Schwarzkopf, an American hero known popularly as "Stormin' Norman," died in Tampa, where he retired after his last posting as head of US Central Command, which controls operations in the Middle East and South Asia. "We've lost an American original," US President Barack Obama said. "From his decorated service in Vietnam to the historic liberation of Kuwait and his leadership of United States Central Command, General Schwarzkopf stood tall for the country and Army he loved," he said in a statement. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Schwarzkopf -- a hulking bruiser of a commander with an explosive temper -- had in "35 years of service in uniform left an indelible imprint on the United States military and the country." Former president George H. W. Bush, himself sick in intensive care in Texas, was among the first to issue a statement mourning the loss of the man he chose to lead the war that came to define both of their careers. "Barbara and I mourn the loss of a true American patriot and one of the great military leaders of his generation," his statement said. "General Norm Schwarzkopf, to me, epitomized the 'duty, service, country' creed that has defended our freedom and seen this great nation through our most trying international crises," Bush said. "More than that, he was a good and decent man -- and a dear friend. Barbara and I send our condolences to his wife Brenda and his wonderful family." The New York Times quoted Schwarzkopf's sister as saying he died from complications related to a recent bout with pneumonia. In a major test of the post-Cold War order, Saddam Hussein's million-man army invaded Kuwait in 1990 and looked set to roll into Saudi Arabia, which would have given him more than 40 per cent of the world's oil reserves. Bush assembled a coalition of 32 nations and Schwarzkopf was given command of 425,000 US and 118,000 allied soldiers, a force which decimated Saddam's military machine and drove it from Kuwait with minimal allied casualties. Born in Trenton, New Jersey in 1934, Schwarzkopf's connection with the Gulf began when he was just 12 and he went to Iran to join his father, another decorated general, who had been posted there. Educated in Tehran, Geneva and Frankfurt before returning to the United States to pursue a military career, Schwarzkopf specialized in mechanical engineering at the renowned West Point military college. He also attended the University of Southern California and the US Army War College. Schwarzkopf served briefly as an instructor at West Point before heading to Vietnam to join the fast-swelling numbers of US military advisers to the South Vietnamese army. Quickly promoted up through the ranks, his reputation for bravery was confirmed during his second tour in Vietnam in 1970, when he rescued men from his battalion who were trapped in a minefield in the Batangan Peninsula. After rushing to the scene in a helicopter, he crawled across the minefield, held a severely wounded man down until a splint could be put on his leg, and then led survivors to safety by ordering mines to be marked with shaving cream. Unlike some of the generals that succeeded him in America's more recent wars, Schwarzkopf was a combat veteran, earning three silver stars and the coveted Combat Infantryman Badge for those who personally fought in battle. His brusque and bold style was also the stuff of legend. "When you get on that plane to go home, if the last thing you think about me is 'I hate that son of a bitch', then that is fine because you're going home alive," he is reported to have said. Schwarzkopf's infamous temper spawned the nickname "Stormin' Norman," which became tabloid headline fodder during the 1991 Gulf War. His troops, however, knew him as "The Bear." "He was like a rock star. We all wanted to have our picture taken with him," wrote Mike Glenn, a Houston Chronicle reporter who served as an Army lieutenant in the Gulf War. In 1983 Schwarzkopf led troops in battle during the US invasion of Grenada and in 1988 was appointed head of the Central Command, responsible for operations in the Horn of Africa, the Middle East and South Asia. As commander, Schwarzkopf had studied the eight-year Iran-Iraq war and concocted a plan for the defense of Gulf oil fields against a possible Iraqi invasion of US-allied Arab states. After the US had engaged in a six-week air assault on Iraqi forces in January 1991, this became part of the strategy credited with bringing the ground war to a close in just four days. He was also a public face of the campaign, appearing regularly in faded fatigues and a field soldier's patrol cap to brief the world's media. "In the aftermath of that war, General Schwarzkopf was justly recognized as a brilliant strategist and inspiring leader," Panetta said. "Today, we recall that enduring legacy and remember him as one of the great military giants of the 20th century." After the war, Schwarzkopf turned down the position of army chief of staff and retired from active service in August 1991. He was successfully treated for prostate cancer in 1993. - AFP/ck ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackRabbit 3rd Gear December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 Article does not mention the disagreement he had with POTUS and Colin Powell about completing the 1st gulf war by invading Baghdad. Arguably (in 20/20 hindsight) it may have prevented the 2nd gulf war and saved so many lives if Norman had been allowed to continue into Iraq then. Somewhat similar persona to George Patton, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altivo 3rd Gear December 28, 2012 Share December 28, 2012 i was just 13 yo when the first gulf war broke out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 Article does not mention the disagreement he had with POTUS and Colin Powell about completing the 1st gulf war by invading Baghdad. Arguably (in 20/20 hindsight) it may have prevented the 2nd gulf war and saved so many lives if Norman had been allowed to continue into Iraq then. Somewhat similar persona to George Patton, I think. It's not his decision to make. Saudi Arabia wants Iraq as a buffer to Iran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF 4th Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 Article does not mention the disagreement he had with POTUS and Colin Powell about completing the 1st gulf war by invading Baghdad. Arguably (in 20/20 hindsight) it may have prevented the 2nd gulf war and saved so many lives if Norman had been allowed to continue into Iraq then. Somewhat similar persona to George Patton, I think. And US might be going in alone without the support of the Gulf states which US needs for its logistics and operational bases.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear December 29, 2012 Author Share December 29, 2012 Article does not mention the disagreement he had with POTUS and Colin Powell about completing the 1st gulf war by invading Baghdad. Arguably (in 20/20 hindsight) it may have prevented the 2nd gulf war and saved so many lives if Norman had been allowed to continue into Iraq then. Somewhat similar persona to George Patton, I think. If he invaded or even attempted to strike Baghad then, the coalition forces would have disintegrated and SA might even kick the western forces out of her soil. Yup always on hindsight that unfinished business should have been allowed to be carry out... Patto was tolerated by both Bradley & Eisenhower to do things as he pleased in the ETO then but Schwarzkopf was heavily constrained by his allied's different agendas and of course by his political masters back in DC. Both, however, were brilliant field tacticians with explosive tempers though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear December 29, 2012 Author Share December 29, 2012 i was just 13 yo when the first gulf war broke out I was in my bunk when Desert Shield transformed into Desert Storm which the allied air forces began the aerial bombardment. The build-up to the invasion was exciting as we were told then that a evil tyrannical regime which swallowed up a tiny neighbour deserved to be whacked by a coalition of the willing aka the good guys. Now thinking about it a bit like LOTR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanmachine Supercharged December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 So sad indeed, When Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf was in Singapore as one of the Guest speaker for The National Achiever's Congress in 90s, I was assigned to be his. P.A. for the day To buy his lunch of Bananas, a particular brand of mineral water and diet-coke , for 2 days, He has the size of a man who walks hurriedly like ' storming desert ' style but very assuming and well-liked attitude, hardly speak much except asking me, ' Hi, How R u doing?. ' Smile politely and do his usual stuff, he has his body-guards around him so no chance to have a decent conversation or else I would ask him about his war experiences and so so. While on stage for him to speak, his was a awesome figure who command respect , nothing less due to his war tactics and hugh exposure, we a[rted way by handshakes so hard, that it almost broke my wrist . . . Hehe! RIP General Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackRabbit 3rd Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 So sad indeed, When Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf was in Singapore as one of the Guest speaker for The National Achiever's Congress in 90s, I was assigned to be his. P.A. Did you get any photo opportunities with him? Would have been cool to have a photo with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceroymenthol 6th Gear December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 I hope he gets raped in the ass in the afterlife by all the "terrorists" he killed, the babies, children, women. With pitchforks. Fat Norman was probably the biggest terrorist over in the Mid East. Farkin American terrorists! Remember My Lai, remember Gitmo. Cerano you can go join him and suck his fat white dick. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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