Happily1986 5th Gear December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 how many businesses in Singapore truly practice social responsibilities? Problem is, this is never really enforce by the authorities. I am not saying the developer is right....but when every businesses is squeezing for pennies in their margin, last in their mind is social responsibility let's stick to housing. sometime back Khaw had sent a clear signal about shoebox units or rather the alarming rate at which shoebox units were mushrooming, OCR and CCR. A minister whose portfolio included housing was commenting and directing developers in an otherwise private housing segment. And now you are trying to dismiss any obligations that developers have towards the EC scheme? I call that ironic. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 Raising the income ceiling to qualifyy for new public housing makes sense as it keeps up with the income level. else many people cannot afford private house yet dont qualify for new flat. I am hoping the celiing to be raised to $15k. then how abt those low wages worker? Those holding only ite cert and diploma cert? Is government going to abandon them? Increasimg the ceiling cap is not a good solution. How high will the cap be enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 let's stick to housing. sometime back Khaw had sent a clear signal about shoebox units or rather the alarming rate at which shoebox units were mushrooming, OCR and CCR. A minister whose portfolio included housing was commenting and directing developers in an otherwise private housing segment. And now you are trying to dismiss any obligations that developers have towards the EC scheme? I call that ironic. I think you should tell that to Mr.Khaw, not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 how many businesses in Singapore truly practice social responsibilities? Problem is, this is never really enforce by the authorities. I am not saying the developer is right....but when every businesses is squeezing for pennies in their margin, last in their mind is social responsibility that doesnot mean government cam dont step in. I propose for government to order them to tear down and rebuild. Other punishment are deemed too light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vextan 1st Gear December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 then how abt those low wages worker? Those holding only ite cert and diploma cert? Is government going to abandon them? Increasimg the ceiling cap is not a good solution. How high will the cap be enough? Raising the ceiling should not affect the low income earners what, as they still qualify. but yes, as more higher income earners qualify due to the raisedceiling, the pie will become smaller, hence disadvantage the lower income earners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 that doesnot mean government cam dont step in. I propose for government to order them to tear down and rebuild. Other punishment are deemed too light. wa this one fierce. -_- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 Raising the ceiling should not affect the low income earners what, as they still qualify. but yes, as more higher income earners qualify due to the raisedceiling, the pie will become smaller, hence disadvantage the lower income earners. why look after the able and continue to disadvantage the poor ppl? In the first place, if government didnt left hoisong price un check those earning well above 10k shouldnt even have this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 wa this one fierce. -_- propose nia... I know this one unreasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily1986 5th Gear December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 I think you should tell that to Mr.Khaw, not me. I think this doesn't change the argument one bit. if private developers are made to toe the line in an otherwise autonomous segment, I don't see why they should be given free rein in the EC segment. you may choose to see it as a personal indiscretion of Law but that's just you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 If you think too much because of interest rate than don't buy that unit. Like this good what, that will force buyer to think twice before commiting to buy HDB, EC. If too much don't buy and if no buyer, prices will be slash. So market demand will be adjusted accordly. Rather than developer knowing that there are many rich parents around to help pay for them for high downpayment, and constantly outbidding each other to get the project than sell high. This 2million EC will not be the 1st and last case. Rich parents can buy for their kids private condo if they not happy with it. you are not talking about few thousands in additional interest payment leh the problem is developer should not even be allowed to build such a huge unit.. you got the priorities wrong and mathematically a bigger unit has a lesser $/psf so you saying developers earning more from a big unit is wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitanic 6th Gear December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 OT a bit. I seriously think HDB should let singles buy new flat. They will then consider marrying. This comes first 2013 [:p] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 OT a bit. I seriously think HDB should let singles buy new flat. They will then consider marrying. This comes first 2013 [:p] you are single right? i support provide the clause state that... 1)after marriaged, HDB will take back one of the flat if both single have HDB.. at no compensation. all previous loan paid will be transfer to the single flat that had been chosen to be retain. 2) their Flat cannot be rented out in whole or by per room at all. (to prevent ppl from having GF/BF but dont get married to escape rule 1) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 Raising the ceiling should not affect the low income earners what, as they still qualify. but yes, as more higher income earners qualify due to the raisedceiling, the pie will become smaller, hence disadvantage the lower income earners. raising the income will push prices up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 raising the income will push prices up yap.. i think i mention this during the last push up from 8K to 10K. true enough.. the housing price increase like no tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily1986 5th Gear December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 you are not talking about few thousands in additional interest payment leh the problem is developer should not even be allowed to build such a huge unit.. you got the priorities wrong and mathematically a bigger unit has a lesser $/psf so you saying developers earning more from a big unit is wrong I also feel that we go after the developer rather than the buyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 I also feel that we go after the developer rather than the buyer. can we tell them to rebuild Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 I think this doesn't change the argument one bit. if private developers are made to toe the line in an otherwise autonomous segment, I don't see why they should be given free rein in the EC segment. you may choose to see it as a personal indiscretion of Law but that's just you. Err....not sure what you are saying. All I see is that no businesses in Sgp will ever truly practice social responsibilities unless ah gong say so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged December 31, 2012 Share December 31, 2012 can we tell them to rebuild No need rebuild la. How about just break that PH into 4 smaller units such that it is within a 12k income? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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