What is the diff btw Starhub Cable and Fibre broadband ?

[Jamesc]

[Kb27]

What I've been reading thus far is confusing.

 

If you look at netflix, all its content is authenticated with your email and password. That means, as long as you have a internet connection, from anyone (SH, Singtel, whatever) you will get your service.

 

Now if SH fibre tv comes with a hardware box, The box is used for the authentication, not like netflix email/password combo. Which means more likely, it's a closed network within SH itself or intranet, which means you'll need SH BB subscription.

 

miotv is the same, you need to have singtel BB. You can't use SH BB to access miotv system.

 

As to why SH still charge rental, those boxes cost them money. So they have to recuperate.

 

If you were buying your own box (like the generic android box), then there wouldn't be a rental charge.

 

The problem lies with authentication, to enable decryption of tv signal.

That's why you will not be able to buy these boxes off the internet, bcuz it's controlled and proprietary.

[Neutrino]

What I've been reading thus far is confusing.

 

If you look at netflix, all its content is authenticated with your email and password. That means, as long as you have a internet connection, from anyone (SH, Singtel, whatever) you will get your service.

 

Now if SH fibre tv comes with a hardware box, The box is used for the authentication, not like netflix email/password combo. Which means more likely, it's a closed network within SH itself or intranet, which means you'll need SH BB subscription.

 

miotv is the same, you need to have singtel BB. You can't use SH BB to access miotv system.

 

As to why SH still charge rental, those boxes cost them money. So they have to recuperate.

 

If you were buying your own box (like the generic android box), then there wouldn't be a rental charge.

 

The problem lies with authentication, to enable decryption of tv signal.

That's why you will not be able to buy these boxes off the internet, bcuz it's controlled and proprietary.

 

We don't watch Netflix atm so do you have to pay for the programmes you watch on Netflix? over and above what you pay for SH or Singtel subscription???

 

[Kb27]

We don't watch Netflix atm so do you have to pay for the programmes you watch on Netflix? over and above what you pay for SH or Singtel subscription???

 

 

Yes, you have to pay for Netflix, above your internet subscription, be it Singtel or Starhub.

 

Do note that Netflix and Amazon Prime are for watching individual movies or tv series.

These would be like video-on-demand, where you pick individual movie or tv to watch as and when you want it.

 

It is not like National Geographic channels, Discovery channels, HBO, Fox Movies, etc, where you can get them only on SH or Singtel bcuz these channels are traditionally sold to cable companies to broadcast. So these are paid-tv broadcast channels streaming real-time 24 hrs a day.

 

I would put it this way.

 

If the tv/video content is within their intranets (whether Singtel or SH), then you will need their subscription accordingly to access those video.

If their video content is on the internet like Netflix or Amazon Prime, then you don't need specific ISP, anytime you're on the internet, you can access those video, when you pay for their subscription.

Edited November 3, 2018 by Kb27

[Playtime]

yup ... i took up that offer !!

 

anyway, i might subscribe to your notion that cable is a strategic backup ... it might not be removed but restricted to official use only ?

Starhub already say there is 3rd party involved.

Removal is physical. Not a back up.

[Ysc3]

We don't watch Netflix atm so do you have to pay for the programmes you watch on Netflix? over and above what you pay for SH or Singtel subscription???

 

 

i bought a Hisense smart tv ... and along with it, there is a netflix app in the tv s/w.

 

i have not used it before coz i am worried might have to pay for the access.

 

anyone else bought TV with pre-installed netflix ? is it chargeable ?

[Wt_know]

pre-installed smart tv app is free

when you run the netflix app to watch of course need subscription la

just run the apps and it will bring you to netflix website

no diff compare to access via mobile or ipad

 

i bought a Hisense smart tv ... and along with it, there is a netflix app in the tv s/w.

 

i have not used it before coz i am worried might have to pay for the access.

 

anyone else bought TV with pre-installed netflix ? is it chargeable ?

Edited November 4, 2018 by Wt_know

[inlinesix]

I stopped watching Free-to-air > 10 years.

 

I killed Starhub TV > 5 years

 

I am watching online streaming.

 

For US drama, I am using a service that’s better than Netflix.

[Zxcvb]

Said this b4, with Smart TV and fiber broadband, all these boxes should phase out!! The various apps inside the Smart TV replaces all these boxes. Can watch Toggle, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video in 4K quality and soon to come Disney streaming app. All these using 1 remote control.

[Jamesc]

Said this b4, with Smart TV and fiber broadband, all these boxes should phase out!! The various apps inside the Smart TV replaces all these boxes. Can watch Toggle, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video in 4K quality and soon to come Disney streaming app. All these using 1 remote control.

 

Set top boxes are so 1980s.

 

[Jamesc]

Set top boxes are so 1980s.

 

 

I forgot to add

 

wired is also so 1980's.

 

Who brilliant idea is this?

 

Wired set top boxes.

 

 

How to be a smart nation with dumb ideas?

[Jamesc]

I just do what my boss says.

 

He says wired boxes I just follow.

 

I have no idea, I have no initiative

 

I just work in senior management

 

don't ask me so many difficult questions.

 

Thinking give me a headache.

 

 

If people want to know why our economy is

 

not growing faster and wages are not rising more.

 

This post says it all.

 

 

 

 

[Wt_know]

Said this b4, with Smart TV and fiber broadband, all these boxes should phase out!! The various apps inside the Smart TV replaces all these boxes. Can watch Toggle, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video in 4K quality and soon to come Disney streaming app. All these using 1 remote control.

the problem with smart tv apps is they are not updated fast enough by the maker

the tv also very slow in loading program, switching apps, not fully support HTML5

smart tv apps are not truly android apps that can be downloaded and installed from google play

smart tv apps are apps designed and released together with the tv

if the TV is 12-18 months old ... the smart tv apps are outdated liao

Edited November 4, 2018 by Wt_know

[Jamesc]

There is nothing wrong with cable TV.

 

Nobody watching cable TV is saying

 

my TV is obsolete I want to go to Fibre.

 

They should just renew the lease for another 3 years.

 

 

SH needs to work harder and not just get pushed around.

[inlinesix]

the problem with smart tv apps is they are not updated fast enough by the maker

the tv also very slow in loading program, switching apps, not fully support HTML5

smart tv apps are not truly android apps that can be downloaded and installed from google play

smart tv apps are apps designed and released together with the tv

if the TV is 12-18 months old ... the smart tv apps are outdated liao

Most TV speakers CMI.

 

Even I am watching streaming drama in stereo, every sound also very clear including dialogue

[Wt_know]

i am using apple tv ... sibei clear sibei smooth

also using iphone and ipad for screen mirroring

i am apple whore ... lol

[inlinesix]

i am using apple tv ... sibei clear sibei smooth

also using iphone and ipad for screen mirroring

i am apple whore ... lol

Me too. Plus home theatre

 

Nowadays I also use MacBook Pro for AMDK drama.

Edited November 4, 2018 by Davidtch

[Kb27]

Here's the thing about internet that many may not be aware.

IP packets are best effort service.

 

So when you're surfing the net or downloading, and traffic congestion comes in, you see a slow down in your webpage appearing or downloading. But after a delay, you still get it all. This doesn't bother most people, they just get used to it.

 

But with video data, a slow down is quite obvious. You get buffering, pixelation or dropped frames.

This generally bothers most people watching a video. So to get around this, video data must be given priority. Every 10 msec or so, it must get something.

 

ISP usually will try to accommodate priority for video data. That is, for their own video datastream.

For 3rd parties like Netflix or Amazon prime, either they negotiate with the ISP to provide such priority for video packets or they don't and rely on best effort service.

 

So the video quality may be there or not.

 

If you try to watch those free live stream, like world cup, or whatever, you get the picture.