Nocash Neutral Newbie December 18, 2012 Share December 18, 2012 On 12/14/2012 at 3:40 AM, Speak_listen said: btw, why the taxi can not just stick to 1 model, it is not better? How to increase rental if it stick to the same model. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrvsport 2nd Gear December 18, 2012 Share December 18, 2012 On 12/7/2012 at 5:11 AM, 13177 said: Maybe korean taxis really more economical for value, but i find the quality of the korean taxi not very good. As i took a sonata taxi the other day, i could feel the whole car vibrates! Vibrates one thing making money is another thing...importantly as long it can tahan is already good for everything... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion 5th Gear December 18, 2012 Share December 18, 2012 HK using crown running on petrol, very quiet too. Don't understand why HK taxi use petrol over diesel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicolor 5th Gear December 18, 2012 Share December 18, 2012 On 12/18/2012 at 3:38 PM, Passion said: HK using crown running on petrol, very quiet too. Don't understand why HK taxi use petrol over diesel. HK Crown taxis run on LPG, not petrol. Very quiet engine compared with diesel engines, but still not up to par with most modern petrol engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/18/2012 at 3:38 PM, Passion said: HK using crown running on petrol, very quiet too. Don't understand why HK taxi use petrol over diesel. How come HK still using crown as taxi? They do not have the Euro V requirement? I find many countries, they only use one or at most 2 models as their taxi. Unlike here taxi can comes in so many different models?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluboxed 1st Gear December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/18/2012 at 3:55 PM, Bicolor said: HK Crown taxis run on LPG, not petrol. Very quiet engine compared with diesel engines, but still not up to par with most modern petrol engines. that's correct...it's LPG not Petrol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverofCar 6th Gear December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 1:02 AM, 13177 said: How come HK still using crown as taxi? They do not have the Euro V requirement? I find many countries, they only use one or at most 2 models as their taxi. Unlike here taxi can comes in so many different models?! What's the point of having euro V requirement in HK... the air in the country is already so polluted... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 (edited) On 12/17/2012 at 12:27 PM, Kspchew said: Well, you need to tweak your perception. gone are the hyundai pony days You are right that gone are the hyundai pony days if you refering to the design and features found on the current hyundai cars. But if in terms of quality and reliability, i am not sure if the car still running well after 5 years or older?! Cause many people seems to sell off their car within 5 years, so cannot really know how good the quality and reliability of korea cars?! Edited December 19, 2012 by 13177 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky2007 Turbocharged December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/17/2012 at 12:20 PM, Michaelphua said: Well, I still prefer Japanese make because they r more reliable! Korean cars looks good inside out but ride is still no way close to the japs. I drove a Korean car 5 years, now a jap for 3 years. Not necessary jap car more reliable. My 4yr old jap car aircon with 70k km mileage got to change aircon cooling coil n fan motor so far. My old Korean car only change driveshaft n shock absorber which is was wear n tear after 150k km. Drivebility wise both have same handling, seat wise my current jap car sucks.. previous Korea car have lumber support n much more comfy. Parts wise, Korea parts 60% of jap parts price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 2:04 AM, Chucky2007 said: I drove a Korean car 5 years, now a jap for 3 years. Not necessary jap car more reliable. My 4yr old jap car aircon with 70k km mileage got to change aircon cooling coil n fan motor so far. My old Korean car only change driveshaft n shock absorber which is was wear n tear after 150k km. Drivebility wise both have same handling, seat wise my current jap car sucks.. previous Korea car have lumber support n much more comfy. Parts wise, Korea parts 60% of jap parts price. Your current jap car seat sucks? You didnt test drive the car when you buy? But 5 years still cannot comment much on the quality and reliability of the car. Must drive until like 7-10 years then will know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicolor 5th Gear December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 1:02 AM, 13177 said: How come HK still using crown as taxi? They do not have the Euro V requirement? I find many countries, they only use one or at most 2 models as their taxi. Unlike here taxi can comes in so many different models?! If I recall correctly, HK implemented the Euro 4 and then Euro 5 requirement earlier than Singapore, and their standards for new diesel vehicles are very high. The Crown taxis are LPG, not diesel, so the standards are different. But HK has no age limit for taxis, so the vast majority are the old versions, mostly 10 to 11 years old, which most owners are clinging on to because they can carry 5 passengers. The new Euro 4 version with an improved engine was released a few years back, but can only carry 4 passengers, so not many owners upgraded to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky2007 Turbocharged December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 2:07 AM, 13177 said: Your current jap car seat sucks? You didnt test drive the car when you buy? But 5 years still cannot comment much on the quality and reliability of the car. Must drive until like 7-10 years then will know. Nope didn't test drive the current car. Just buy it bec cousin used to have one and bought it in a hurry so didn't check our other models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 4:09 AM, Bicolor said: If I recall correctly, HK implemented the Euro 4 and then Euro 5 requirement earlier than Singapore, and their standards for new diesel vehicles are very high. The Crown taxis are LPG, not diesel, so the standards are different. But HK has no age limit for taxis, so the vast majority are the old versions, mostly 10 to 11 years old, which most owners are clinging on to because they can carry 5 passengers. The new Euro 4 version with an improved engine was released a few years back, but can only carry 4 passengers, so not many owners upgraded to it. You mean the taxi drivers in HK no need to abide the new Euro requirement, even though there is no age limit for taxis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicolor 5th Gear December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 9:15 AM, 13177 said: You mean the taxi drivers in HK no need to abide the new Euro requirement, even though there is no age limit for taxis? The Euro requirements are for new vehicles (or first registration of vehicles in HK). The new Crown taxi conforms to the Euro 4 standards (currently Euro 4 is accepted for petrol and LPG vehicles, while Euro 5 is the minimum for diesel vehicles). But since there's no age limit, it means many of the existing older vehicles which don't meet the Euro standards are still on the road. In other words, you can't bring a vehicle not meeting the Euro standards into HK, but there's nothing to stop people from owning, driving or transferring ownership of an existing one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 1:14 AM, 13177 said: You are right that gone are the hyundai pony days if you refering to the design and features found on the current hyundai cars. But if in terms of quality and reliability, i am not sure if the car still running well after 5 years or older?! Cause many people seems to sell off their car within 5 years, so cannot really know how good the quality and reliability of korea cars?! I think korean cars quite ok la. Know of 2 elantras still running fine till now will no problems at all. The old elantras. Before the Avante. Obviously not as luxurious for interior and soundproofing but in terms of reliability should be ok. I guess the newer models should be even better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alheych 6th Gear December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 10:07 AM, Bicolor said: The Euro requirements are for new vehicles (or first registration of vehicles in HK). The new Crown taxi conforms to the Euro 4 standards (currently Euro 4 is accepted for petrol and LPG vehicles, while Euro 5 is the minimum for diesel vehicles). But since there's no age limit, it means many of the existing older vehicles which don't meet the Euro standards are still on the road. In other words, you can't bring a vehicle not meeting the Euro standards into HK, but there's nothing to stop people from owning, driving or transferring ownership of an existing one. yes, there is just one previous generation diesel Crown left in the entire HK: google GL2649, it's quite famous among car-spotters. most drivers don't have good things to say about LPG though, underpowered and stuff. not unlike our CNG saga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicolor 5th Gear December 19, 2012 Share December 19, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 4:31 PM, Alheych said: yes, there is just one previous generation diesel Crown left in the entire HK: google GL2649, it's quite famous among car-spotters. most drivers don't have good things to say about LPG though, underpowered and stuff. not unlike our CNG saga. Haha, I took that diesel taxi once. It's 15 or 16 years old and apparently the owner is holding on to it because he doesn't like or trust the LPG vehicles. It's said he even keeps a spare engine just in case anything happens! The LPG engines might not be as environmentally friendly as claimed. Don't have time to dig up those files, but I remember reading that a test showed older LPG taxis had lots of toxic emissions, just that they're colourless unlike diesel smoke. As for being underpowered, it's subjective. I drove taxis in HK about 2 or 3 times a week for nearly a year to earn some supplementary income. The older LPG crowns behave very strangely - from 0 - 60km/h, they surge ahead of most non-performance cars below 2l from a standstill at traffic light with normal throttle input, but the acceleration from 60 - 100km/h is slow as hell, and the engine really struggles after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic December 20, 2012 Share December 20, 2012 On 12/19/2012 at 10:07 AM, Bicolor said: The Euro requirements are for new vehicles (or first registration of vehicles in HK). The new Crown taxi conforms to the Euro 4 standards (currently Euro 4 is accepted for petrol and LPG vehicles, while Euro 5 is the minimum for diesel vehicles). But since there's no age limit, it means many of the existing older vehicles which don't meet the Euro standards are still on the road. In other words, you can't bring a vehicle not meeting the Euro standards into HK, but there's nothing to stop people from owning, driving or transferring ownership of an existing one. Cant believe taxi in HK already at least 10 years or more?! They seems to be quite in good condition and looks new. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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