Pisces69 6th Gear November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 agreed. tire warranty super duper hard to claim. they will give all sorts of excuses. Anyway, there have been warranty claims for goodyear asymmetric Gen1. Rather easy to claim as it is a known defect. I might as well take the savings up front and possibly can even buy 5-6 PI tires for the price of 4 AD tires. what are the odds of having to claim 2 tires in a set? Exactly. AD sell high mark up so need to protect their profits. We r consumers. We want good value fr our hard earned money. Now i looking at those pi michelin ps3 16" tires. Around $160 ea. Looks like a very good deal. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidz 6th Gear November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 (edited) a good reputable retailer with good brands, fresh/good stock levels, and good storage facility and more importantly reasonable price/service... is that the end of the day what the drivers like... be it AD or PI ... or PAP Edited November 27, 2012 by Vidz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear November 27, 2012 Author Share November 27, 2012 Hv u mentioned that u r from tire shop? Do u sell bs tires? So u trying to protect yr company interest right? dun need to protect any interest but more of user-awareness. as long upfront customers know what they are getting and they are willing to accept the risks, is win-win situation for both seller and buyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 Not sure what your motive is. Are you from bridgestone and losing sales to so-call PI tyres? If you are genuine concerned, then u should be addressing ALL tyres (such as Michelin, Conti, etc), not just BS. For me, due to the high mark up, definitely not worth to buy "authorised". I ve been driving many years with PI tyres already and no issue at all. If I remember correctly his father owns tyre shop or in the tyre business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidz 6th Gear November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 (edited) other than blatant design or manufactruring faults, like GY F1A2 previously, tyre warranty are over-rated in sg... Edited November 27, 2012 by Vidz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungtiong 2nd Gear November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 PI or not..its your choice. Saying parallel import dont keep their tyres properly is not telling the truth. I will not be surprise if its from the same agent. Anyway if BS want to win back the market, they better start selling their tyres at a better price...ppl already overlook their poorer performance (just check their eu label rating....a lot below avg) but to pay more for poorer performance is too much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisces69 6th Gear November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 dun need to protect any interest but more of user-awareness. as long upfront customers know what they are getting and they are willing to accept the risks, is win-win situation for both seller and buyer. But u sud declare up front u r fm tire shop so pple can decide why u say we sud not buy fm PI sellers. Unless u r also PI but i doubt so. I think its obvious u trying to protect yr own interests lah. I old man already. See n hear so much cannot bluff one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear November 27, 2012 Author Share November 27, 2012 agreed. tire warranty super duper hard to claim. they will give all sorts of excuses. Anyway, there have been warranty claims for goodyear asymmetric Gen1. Rather easy to claim as it is a known defect. I might as well take the savings up front and possibly can even buy 5-6 PI tires for the price of 4 AD tires. what are the odds of having to claim 2 tires in a set? actually not hard, it boils down to the willingness of the seller and whether the buyer has the patience to wait for the report to come up. If is a case of upfront manufacturing defects (i.e. bloated upon installation) then is clear cut, no question ask. however if used for x no of days and something unusual happen, then it will be complicated. anyway can ask manufacturer engineer to come down and inspect the tyres, write the report and pass it to customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear November 27, 2012 Author Share November 27, 2012 (edited) But u sud declare up front u r fm tire shop so pple can decide why u say we sud not buy fm PI sellers. Unless u r also PI but i doubt so. I think its obvious u trying to protect yr own interests lah. I old man already. See n hear so much cannot bluff one. upon request from customers, if they want PI tyres, then we source for them provided they are aware, understand and accept the risks and they only care abt the costs, if not, why take the risks? not all customers are concern abt cost, they are customers who are concern abt warranty, support etc as well...different customers have different requirements, some like to hear from others without doing homework, while some do their homework and do their risk assessment Edited November 27, 2012 by Help1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear November 27, 2012 Author Share November 27, 2012 have received many emails from china and korea tyre sellers there asking whether want to import numerous brands, no doubt price is cheaper but becos is cheaper u need to commit a min qty, if anyone wants to bring in the stock, definitely used up every bit of the container size as much as possible, so squeeze in as many tyres as possible into the container. thats why u can see from the attached document, the tyre shape goes goyang becos of improper storage. in any case, do your own risk assessment, in all cases, is a win-win situation, buyer and seller both benefit from the point of sale. The aftermath is something not many customers care.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 So far in all my years of driving i never heard of anybody claim warranty on tire. go google Goodyear Eagle F1 Asym sidewall cracks defect. and prease, warranty is only on defects, not wear and tear and abuse, eg. ram kerb lah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisces69 6th Gear November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 upon request from customers, if they want PI tyres, then we source for them provided they are aware, understand and accept the risks and they only care abt the costs, if not, why take the risks? not all customers are concern abt cost, they are customers who are concern abt warranty, support etc as well...different customers have different requirements, some like to hear from others without doing homework, while some do their homework and do their risk assessment Ok so maybe u can enlighten us how good is this warranty. How many pple u know personally actually claimed this warranty n how much customer was able to recover? So far i hv never heard of anybody who claimed fr defective tire. Even i had case of tire bulge on sidewall after a few months n tireshop just say maybe u hit kerb n damaged sidewall. I can see its almost impossible to make a successful claim cos tireshop can always say we abused e tire. Like that how to prove? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear November 27, 2012 Author Share November 27, 2012 Ok so maybe u can enlighten us how good is this warranty. How many pple u know personally actually claimed this warranty n how much customer was able to recover? So far i hv never heard of anybody who claimed fr defective tire. Even i had case of tire bulge on sidewall after a few months n tireshop just say maybe u hit kerb n damaged sidewall. I can see its almost impossible to make a successful claim cos tireshop can always say we abused e tire. Like that how to prove? i cannot vouch for other tyreshops but we do have successful claims on tyres and batteries as well as long is manufacturing defects. any misused by customer, if customer still dun accept the official report and out of goodwill, the AD will work out something for the customer, and we will facilitate the goodwill. customer happy, AD and ourselves happy also :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisces69 6th Gear November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 go google Goodyear Eagle F1 Asym sidewall cracks defect. and prease, warranty is only on defects, not wear and tear and abuse, eg. ram kerb lah So this is case of tire defect detected overseas n manufacturer openly declare ty wil pay then sporeans start to claim. This is cos manufacturer want to maintain goodwill n reputation wh customers worldwide. SG dealers unlikely to b so generous to pay customers real money out of their own pocket unless ty r certain to b able to recover fm manufacturer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear November 27, 2012 Author Share November 27, 2012 go google Goodyear Eagle F1 Asym sidewall cracks defect. and prease, warranty is only on defects, not wear and tear and abuse, eg. ram kerb lah ram kerb, incorrect pressure etc are all acts of misused by customers not manufacturing defects so of course warranty not covers.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisces69 6th Gear November 27, 2012 Share November 27, 2012 i cannot vouch for other tyreshops but we do have successful claims on tyres and batteries as well as long is manufacturing defects. any misused by customer, if customer still dun accept the official report and out of goodwill, the AD will work out something for the customer, and we will facilitate the goodwill. customer happy, AD and ourselves happy also :) What i know its very hard to prove manufacturing defect by us motorists. U say u hv honoured claims so maybe u can post yr shop name n address in case any of e bros here want to buy from yr very reputable shop. Then we can see if any positive feedback in e future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear November 27, 2012 Author Share November 27, 2012 So this is case of tire defect detected overseas n manufacturer openly declare ty wil pay then sporeans start to claim. This is cos manufacturer want to maintain goodwill n reputation wh customers worldwide. SG dealers unlikely to b so generous to pay customers real money out of their own pocket unless ty r certain to b able to recover fm manufacturer. think in the 1st place Goodyear ADs in SG did not bring in this model until lately, those u see in the market in the past probably bring in by PI/s. ADs have agreements with manufacturers before can carry their brands to SG market, they are bound by legal terms and conditions etc etc and by looking at these MNCs, they have a social responsibility to ensure customers safety. PIs typically do not get their tyres from manufacturers but from another tyre supplier in another country, they are not bound by these business ethics and only concern abt profits and cheaper costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear November 27, 2012 Author Share November 27, 2012 What i know its very hard to prove manufacturing defect by us motorists. U say u hv honoured claims so maybe u can post yr shop name n address in case any of e bros here want to buy from yr very reputable shop. Then we can see if any positive feedback in e future. cannot post cos infringe MCF rules n regulation cos i am not a paid advertiser here :), if anybody interested, just pm me, more willing to assist any bros here. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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