New USAF Fighters & Navy Bombers

[Shull]

you are so old school, bro.

 

this is not WW 2 lah...

 

Carrier travels with a fleet of attack ships with mulit layer defence.

 

Yes, sending large number of planes to fly past the multi layer defence of the fleet sounds quite logical. But using common sense, which country can afford to send 100 planes just to take down one Carrier? Dont say 100, we just say send 50 planes. Now, which country can afford to send 50 planes to take down one Carrier?

 

Just send maybe 50 anti-ship missiles.. overwhelm the Aegis and CIWS/Phalanx defences.. Just need a single missile to go thru these defences and that's it..

 

Now who the hell can afford 50 anti-ship missiles? Not many..

[Pocus]

Thanks

 

But the YF 22 was not chosen and they went back to re-develop the YF 23 Black Widow II which is more faster and stealth than the F22 Raptor. This latest one sucessfully tested only in 2010. Maybe I am worng about this.

 

There will be some bros in mcf, expert in this will come in to explain...

 

You pulling our legs issit?

 

YF-22 is the prototype of F-22 so YF-22 was chosen and developed into the production model F-22. Same design except for cockpit position altered for better visibility.

YF-23 is history, if its chosen it would have spawned the F-23.

 

Anyway the YF23 looks much nicer!

[Pocus]

This is my favourite Stealth Fighter that was never built. In the 1980s, US govt revealed they were building stealth aircraft. Based on the sketchiest of info, model makers came up with their own creative interpretation.

 

Conspiracy Theoryist even codenamed the Aircraft "F-19" cos they realise the Airforce skipped the number "19" from their "F" numbering system (F-18 is the hornet, F-20 is the Tigershark, but no F-19) , leading the speculation that F-19 is the classified stealth fighter.

 

Models, books and even a Computer Game "F-19 Stealth Fighter"

 

 

It's after the USAF revealed that the "top-secret" stealth figther is actually a stealth bomber called "F-117A Nighthawk" that debunk the "F-19" theory.

 

The game company immediately rename their version 2.0 game to "F-117A Stealth Fighter"

[Alechi]

The most accurate bombers would be birds. If they want, can just fly fast overhead and shiit on your head. Moral of the story. To bomb carriers, train birds to undertake bombing missions

[Adrianli]

Just send maybe 50 anti-ship missiles.. overwhelm the Aegis and CIWS/Phalanx defences.. Just need a single missile to go thru these defences and that's it..

 

Now who the hell can afford 50 anti-ship missiles? Not many..

 

U will need to find the battle group 1st before u can fire the missiles. They have jammers onboard to evade detection too. The battle group will be on the move instead of a stationary target.

 

Even in South China Sea, it is very difficult to search. If Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean or India Ocean, its like finding a needle in the haystack!!!

 

U will need a UAV to keep reporting the group's location. Missiles still not that smart yet, they need visual ques to hit the target like laser, gps or heat. For heat, its very hard to detect also. If u look into warship design of their funnel, their exhaust gases are water-cooled. Our MCV use water-cooled + direct the exhaust underwater.

 

 

Maybe I am revealing too much???

Edited November 22, 2012 by Adrianli

[Robin]

china usually lets the others do the R&D , thereafter they just copy

[Maxus-MIFA9]

china usually lets the others do the R&D , thereafter they just copy

 

Yup..... just buy the blue print and manufacture themself with a lit bit of changes ...

[Ahtong]

Trivia time. Guess how much this cost in 1940?

 

 

or this?

 

Edited November 22, 2012 by Ahtong

[Shull]

U will need to find the battle group 1st before u can fire the missiles. They have jammers onboard to evade detection too. The battle group will be on the move instead of a stationary target.

 

Even in South China Sea, it is very difficult to search. If Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean or India Ocean, its like finding a needle in the haystack!!!

 

U will need a UAV to keep reporting the group's location. Missiles still not that smart yet, they need visual ques to hit the target like laser, gps or heat. For heat, its very hard to detect also. If u look into warship design of their funnel, their exhaust gases are water-cooled. Our MCV use water-cooled + direct the exhaust underwater.

 

 

Maybe I am revealing too much???

 

Easy.. strike when they're in port (they usually announce port calls on social media)... [laugh]

[Shull]

Trivia time. Guess how much this cost in 1940?

 

 

 

or this?

 

The P51 Mustang.. probably cost less than our COE now..

[Pocus]

The P51 Mustang.. probably cost less than our COE now..

Think you can buy re-conditioned a P-51 Mustang for about 20-30k USD...and that's vintage price...

 

[EDIT]

Ok I'm wrong, the cheapest is 1.5 million. a good conditioned one can be more at 2 million.

 

http://www.controller.com/list/list.aspx?O...&notfound=1

Edited November 22, 2012 by Pocus

[Shull]

Think you can buy re-conditioned a P-51 Mustang for about 20-30k USD...and that's vintage price...

 

[EDIT]

Ok I'm wrong, the cheapest is 1.5 million. a good conditioned one can be more at 2 million.

 

http://www.controller.com/list/list.aspx?O...&notfound=1

 

I mean, THEN in 1940..

 

alternatively, you can get the blueprints and build one yourself..

[Ahtong]

King George V battleship - abt 6mil pounds in 1940 ($500 + mil USD nowadays after inflation)

 

P-51 - USD$51k in 1945 (about $650k USD nowadays)

 

By comparison, a Nimitz class carrier is about USD$6 Bil and a F-22 is guesstimated at USD $350 mil

 

So 2 F-22s cost more than a battleship!

 

Of course the capability is like night and day too