Amaron Battery

[Kurty]

B24 - describe the dimension and size

LS - left (positive), big terminal

65 - specific to individual manufacturer, larger number usually means more AH, ampere

 

you the man,

 

LS, you mean there are different type of terminal in car battery?

I always thought 1 black, 1 red. Black is negative while red is positive.

 

Supposing, if we reverse the connection, what will happen?

Why everytime, when there's a jump start from another car, there is spark?

 

Are we safe to touch the terminal of car battery?

Is bigger the AH, the better it is for the alternator?

Does alternator has a lifespan?

With so many toys to use in a car, is it bigger to have a bigger alternator? more power.

 

Sorry, really don't know anything about this.

 

Been driving for nearly 10 years, and the learning of battery never come into me until today..

I just change car battery every 2 and 1/2 year or when the crank is weak.

[Fuelsaver]

mine after 2yrs also have the powdered buildup but not as much; cleaned off few days ago while wiping engine bay after washing car.

update - cleaned up properly this evening.

 

followed these instructions for car batt (except that i only used toothbrush) and also lip balm instead of di-electric grease / petroleum jelly.

 

if still have the corrosive powder, i think will just replace batt.

Edited September 15, 2016 by Fuelsaver

[Fuelsaver]

update - cleaned up properly this evening.

 

followed these instructions for car batt (except that i only used toothbrush) and also lip balm instead of di-electric grease / petroleum jelly.

 

if still have the corrosive powder, i think will just replace batt.

Update - before cleaning deposit, when during drive last few weeks voltage at low 13v. if put on D n use power window may momentarily drop to high 12v. After proper clean up voltage went back to high 13v. Cold start in morning reads 14-14.2v. Now lowest at 13.5v during drive, usually at 13.7-13.9v

[Apple-Tree]

 

 

Mine is 

 

Morning battery voltage : 12.6V

Engine start : 14.2V

Full Speed Aircon Fan + Headlight + High Light + HID + ICE + Foglight : 13.2V @ 750rpm, 14.0 @ 1500rpm

Warm Engine Off : ~13.0V

Warm Engine Off Housekeeping : 12.2V - MAF Self Clean, Self Diagnostic etc.

 

 

Look like Alternator and Battery looks OK.

 

 

 

Update - before cleaning deposit, when during drive last few weeks voltage at low 13v. if put on D n use power window may momentarily drop to high 12v. After proper clean up voltage went back to high 13v. Cold start in morning reads 14-14.2v. Now lowest at 13.5v during drive, usually at 13.7-13.9v

 

[Fuelsaver]

 

 

 

Mine is

 

Morning battery voltage : 12.6V

Engine start : 14.2V

Full Speed Aircon Fan + Headlight + High Light + HID + ICE + Foglight : 13.2V @ 750rpm, 14.0 @ 1500rpm

Warm Engine Off : ~13.0V

Warm Engine Off Housekeeping : 12.2V - MAF Self Clean, Self Diagnostic etc.

 

 

Look like Alternator and Battery looks OK.

Simi is housekeeping???

[Apple-Tree]

The car ownself diagnose and cleaning lor.  Usually within 10mins after engine off after at least 1 driving cycle lor.

 

Like Hyundai & KIA MAF is usually using hot film MAF.  It is said they self clean by raising temperature to 1000C to burn off all dust particle lor.

 

So my Carens MAF is maintenance free de.

 

 

 

Simi is housekeeping???

 

[Kb27]

 

LS, you mean there are different type of terminal in car battery?

I always thought 1 black, 1 red. Black is negative while red is positive.

 

-> 2 kinds of terminal, big and small

-> B19, B20, all small terminal, so a L = small terminal, no LS

-> For B24, there's L = small terminal, LS = big terminal

-> D23, D26 onwards, all big terminal, so L = big terminal, no LS

 

Supposing, if we reverse the connection, what will happen?

 

-> very BAD ! , quite a few electrical stuff will be damaged, like alternator, etc.

 

Why everytime, when there's a jump start from another car, there is spark?

 

-> spark is due to connection, sharp difference in voltage and high current. The last point of contact that makes the circuit will spark. That's why jump start advise you to make last contact for negative on car body and not the battery itself, bcuz sparking on the body is not as risky as sparking on the battery terminal.

 

Are we safe to touch the terminal of car battery?

 

-> generally yes, it's safe, bcuz of low voltage. However, don't try to complete the circuit by putting left hand on left terminal and right hand on right terminal, it's not very healthy.

 

Is bigger the AH, the better it is for the alternator?

 

-> not necessarily good or bad. Battery is only an electrical storage device. Most important not to let it run flat. A flat battery takes a toll on the alternator. It has to charge and work harder. So a bigger AH battery means it has to charge longer to get battery fully charged.

 

Does alternator has a lifespan?

 

-> yes, usually wear and tear. Bearings, carbon brushes, electrical components can wear out or damage. There are usually 6 diodes to rectify the AC voltage to DC for charging battery. The worse thing to happen is a short circuit in one of the diode. It is unseen. Alternator appears to charge normally, but when engine is not running, the coils draws current from the battery in a reverse manner, leading to a flat battery. And you are left wondering why the battery goes flat in the morning.

 

With so many toys to use in a car, is it bigger to have a bigger alternator? more power.

 

-> Battery is sized by car manufacturers. Conti tends to fit bigger battery. Jap car smaller battery. The thinking is that when you have higher electrical loads, you need bigger battery. However, it's not exactly true. Since the battery is mainly used for starting engine. After that, all the electrical power comes from the alternator. So yes, a bigger alternator is better, provided it fits into your engine, and don't provide too much drag on the engine. Otherwise the extra load reduces engine power to sacrifice for electrical power.

 

Been driving for nearly 10 years, and the learning of battery never come into me until today..

I just change car battery every 2 and 1/2 year or when the crank is weak.

-> it's always a good idea to change out battery regularly, like 2 yrs. So that you're not caught with a dead battery. A weak battery is also a heavy load on the alternator. In some cases, people find they have improved fuel efficiency simply by changing out a weak battery.

[Kb27]

update - cleaned up properly this evening.

 

followed these instructions for car batt (except that i only used toothbrush) and also lip balm instead of di-electric grease / petroleum jelly.

 

if still have the corrosive powder, i think will just replace batt.

 

Corrosion comes from micro-leaks in the battery terminal, where the lead joins the plastic container.

This allows acidic, H2, O2 gases to emanate from inside the battery and reacting with the terminal and wires.

Thus, the corrosion salt left behind.

 

It is usually caused by over-zealous mechanics who overtightened battery terminals and fracture and breaks the seal.

Then they like to blame certain batteries like Amaron. I've seen the same thing happened with Bosch batteries.

 

You can put high temp grease over the terminal, the seal to prevent further gases from escaping.

 

This should reduce corrosion to a min.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Kb27

[Fuelsaver]

The car ownself diagnose and cleaning lor.  Usually within 10mins after engine off after at least 1 driving cycle lor.

 

Like Hyundai & KIA MAF is usually using hot film MAF.  It is said they self clean by raising temperature to 1000C to burn off all dust particle lor.

 

So my Carens MAF is maintenance free de.

urs is new or old carens? if old one, should b same as my old tucson?

Corrosion comes from micro-leaks in the battery terminal, where the lead joins the plastic container.

This allows acidic, H2, O2 gases to emanate from inside the battery and reacting with the terminal and wires.

Thus, the corrosion salt left behind.

 

It is usually caused by over-zealous mechanics who overtightened battery terminals and fracture and breaks the seal.

Then they like to blame certain batteries like Amaron. I've seen the same thing happened with Bosch batteries.

 

You can put high temp grease over the terminal, the seal to prevent further gases from escaping.

 

This should reduce corrosion to a min.

tks bro i applied lip balm.. ok for fews days liao.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Fuelsaver

[Apple-Tree]

Old one Theta Engine 2L, as use in Sportage, Sonata ...... Tucson ..... not sure.  Evo also use the same engine platform except different cam lor.  It is also called the World Engine.

 

Check your ECU, if it is Siemens VDO, good chance it is.

 

 

urs is new or old carens? if old one, should b same as my old tucson?

tks bro i applied lip balm.. ok for fews days liao.

 

[Kb27]

 

tks bro i applied lip balm.. ok for fews days liao.

 

Battery terminals can get very hot. Lip balm, petroleum jelly will not last long and melt away.

 

Use high temp grease is preferable.

[Kb27]

Some other tools to prevent battery corrosion:

 

Fibre washers placed over the terminals, prevent gases from directly contacting the terminals.

Corrosion prevention grease applied over the seals and terminals

 

[Fuelsaver]

Battery terminals can get very hot. Lip balm, petroleum jelly will not last long and melt away.

 

Use high temp grease is preferable.

where to get small quantity?

where to get above items?

Old one Theta Engine 2L, as use in Sportage, Sonata ...... Tucson ..... not sure.  Evo also use the same engine platform except different cam lor.  It is also called the World Engine.

 

Check your ECU, if it is Siemens VDO, good chance it is.

tks bro although im unsure of the ecu location

[Kb27]

where to get small quantity?

where to get above items?

 

 

i bought them from Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-CB104S-Battery-Corrosion-Preventative/dp/B004AWO4NI/

 

There's another grease that is equally good and available at some hardwareshops at AMK Ind Park 2, called Fluid Film.

http://www.fluid-film.com/applications/automotive/

Edited September 18, 2016 by Kb27

[Fuelsaver]

i bought them from Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-CB104S-Battery-Corrosion-Preventative/dp/B004AWO4NI/

 

There's another grease that is equally good and available at some hardwareshops at AMK Ind Park 2, called Fluid Film.

http://www.fluid-film.com/applications/automotive/

Tks will check put

[Snokey]

hi all, quick review here.

 

i changed my Amaron Hi-Life 85D23L (60Ah) recently at Arrow Tyres as i feel that cranking is getting worse in the morning. The price was the best among the rest that i checked (normally around 140) but i got it for $125. My previous battery lasted for almost 3 years.

 

but the whole experience felt a bit inadequate.

 

1) first the guy was using a device to check the battery then just told me the battery going to spoil liao. i asked him what's the readings on the device, he just told me only left 30%. i also dont know left 30% what and how does it affect the battery, tried asking again but he didn't really appear to be interested in replying

 

2) asked him about the corrosion on the battery terminals, he just said it's normal for old batteries. then he used hot water to wash away. asked him if can prevent this from happening, he say it will always happen to old batteries one, didn't mention about the washers or applying some grease over the terminals.

 

3) he told me to start up the engine (don't on aircon) so that he can change the battery. I was like huh? like that also can change ah. he said can. maybe my car is those lousy car not much electronics one so in the end still ok la, the radio settings all still there.

 

 

last time, my battery died on me and i had to call Car Res-Q to help me, i remembered he used a backup battery when swapping the battery which sounds more right to me. but his price now for the same battery is $140 at Yishun which is very far for me so i didn't go there.

 

[Fcw75]

Changing a battery with the engine running is never recommended, it has been discussed to death here.

 

The alternator might spiked and the high voltage may fry the ECU.

 

Nothing happened everyone happy, something happened how? Who will take responsibility? You think the workshop will admit it's their fault when their profit is maybe $20-30?

 

Find another workshop next time.

[Johnnylim]

hi all, quick review here.

 

i changed my Amaron Hi-Life 85D23L (60Ah) recently at Arrow Tyres as i feel that cranking is getting worse in the morning. The price was the best among the rest that i checked (normally around 140) but i got it for $125. My previous battery lasted for almost 3 years.

 

but the whole experience felt a bit inadequate.

 

1) first the guy was using a device to check the battery then just told me the battery going to spoil liao. i asked him what's the readings on the device, he just told me only left 30%. i also dont know left 30% what and how does it affect the battery, tried asking again but he didn't really appear to be interested in replying

 

2) asked him about the corrosion on the battery terminals, he just said it's normal for old batteries. then he used hot water to wash away. asked him if can prevent this from happening, he say it will always happen to old batteries one, didn't mention about the washers or applying some grease over the terminals.

 

3) he told me to start up the engine (don't on aircon) so that he can change the battery. I was like huh? like that also can change ah. he said can. maybe my car is those lousy car not much electronics one so in the end still ok la, the radio settings all still there.

 

 

last time, my battery died on me and i had to call Car Res-Q to help me, i remembered he used a backup battery when swapping the battery which sounds more right to me. but his price now for the same battery is $140 at Yishun which is very far for me so i didn't go there.

I got it at $120 using the proper replacing method