"Let

[Ah_Zai]

http://www.mamawearpapashirt.com/2012/09/w...families-first/

One of the topics covered in the recent national conversation was the low fertility rate in Singapore. A few ideas were bandied about, such as having better work life balance, creating a stronger social support network, and bringing down the overall cost of living.

 

As I listened, I couldn

Edited September 27, 2012 by Ah_Zai

[Jman888]

are you married?

 

If no money how to build stronger family? Isn't money often the root cause of quarrels and family disagreements? I would say it's a 50-50 between Love and Financial success.

 

As for Work-Life balance, it's a little difficult to achieve given our social context especially our region - our neighbours up north and south are cheaper than us, MNC can easily pull out if conditions aren't favourable here.

 

[Ah_Zai]

are you married?

 

No leh. Holding back. Always feel that $ no enough :(

[Jman888]

why you didn't quote this part? i find this is one important point she manage to pick up, a good example in the family can educate or pass the right value on marriage and having children rather than listening to all the whining of money not enough or more leave/holiday and more subsidy and incentive to have babies.

 

I

[Ah_Zai]

My values is that Man must provide for family. During our father's time, our dad will be the only solebread winner while our mum would be the housewife.

 

How are we able to achieve this in today's context with the high cost of living?

 

Values should change with the times I think

 

why you didn't quote this part? i find this is one important point she manage to pick up, a good example in the family can educate or pass the right value on marriage and having children rather than listening to all the whining of money not enough or more leave/holiday and more subsidy and incentive to have babies.

 

I

[Clubace]

What values are you talking about?

[Hondacub777]

My values is that Man must provide for family. During our father's time, our dad will be the only solebread winner while our mum would be the housewife.

 

How are we able to achieve this in today's context with the high cost of living?

 

Values should change with the times I think

U sounds like a MCP.

By the way,in which way,upnorth is cheaper?

I have frens and relatives staying there,and by comparing the $$$ they earn and spend there,it's worse than here.Their inflation is much worse than us

[Hondacub777]

My values is that Man must provide for family. During our father's time, our dad will be the only solebread winner while our mum would be the housewife.

 

How are we able to achieve this in today's context with the high cost of living?

 

Values should change with the times I think

*double*

Edited September 27, 2012 by Hondacub777

[Carnoob]

Every nation have their issues... Singapore is unique: -

 

1. No natural resources

2. Limited land for expansion

3. Ageing population

4. Foreigners' issue (overcrowding, jobs, etc)

 

Singapore has been successful economically that's why everyone is focus on MONEY... but socially we failed as a nation. We failed morally and socially ever since we decided to do away with moral education / social studies. Children don't understand what is respect (e.g. parent report police because the teacher cut the hair), what is courtesy (drivers not giving way to others changing lane), what is harmony (neighbours fighting over use of common walkway)...

 

Marriage can failed in many ways (e.g. financial stress, character mismatch etc), I have seen many marriages failed because of financial stress which results after more and more quarrels... Marriage and Fertility comes hand in hand... I agree there is no hard and fast rule to resolve it.

 

We are not a cohesive society like before, I have my fair shares of "good neighbour and bad neighbour", "taking transport woes", "pre-school education worries" but basically environment has become less conducive than before. I'm a 70's kid who had gone through social / moral education and had a yr of religious studies before it was scrapped.

 

The government can decide how to run a nation but we have to decide how we run our family... Are our family values towards economical success or social success? Society has instead chosen for us - Economical Success. Without money, there will be no talk for marriage or baby...

 

After the 80's, most have the mindset of economical success as the measurement of happiness. The government had been successful in running a nation but her citizens had failed in running a family.

[Moredhel]

After the 80's, most have the mindset of economical success as the measurement of happiness. The government had been successful in running a nation but her citizens had failed in running a family.

 

The current govt is barely successful in running a nation if looked at on a macro level.

 

Economic Success, Standard of Living Imbalance, Societal and Cultural Failure, Land Planning Failure, Transport Failure((No need to epand on this), Foreign Policy Failure(6m? Really?), Moral Failure(This one I'm very very pissed about - to take care of our forefathers who built the nation), Educational Policy Failure(FTs over Locals), Social Security Failure(Look at our poodles and assault cases), Social insurance Failure(forced savings with crap returns not even close to inflation rates), Soverign Fund Mgt Failure(Largi no need expand)

 

It's a general flight from quality to quantity in SG.

 

 

[Jman888]

you type a lot but it is as good as nothing

 

Every nation have their issues... Singapore is unique: -

 

1. No natural resources

2. Limited land for expansion

3. Ageing population

4. Foreigners' issue (overcrowding, jobs, etc)

 

Singapore has been successful economically that's why everyone is focus on MONEY... but socially we failed as a nation. We failed morally and socially ever since we decided to do away with moral education / social studies. Children don't understand what is respect (e.g. parent report police because the teacher cut the hair), what is courtesy (drivers not giving way to others changing lane), what is harmony (neighbours fighting over use of common walkway)...

 

Marriage can failed in many ways (e.g. financial stress, character mismatch etc), I have seen many marriages failed because of financial stress which results after more and more quarrels... Marriage and Fertility comes hand in hand... I agree there is no hard and fast rule to resolve it.

 

We are not a cohesive society like before, I have my fair shares of "good neighbour and bad neighbour", "taking transport woes", "pre-school education worries" but basically environment has become less conducive than before. I'm a 70's kid who had gone through social / moral education and had a yr of religious studies before it was scrapped.

 

The government can decide how to run a nation but we have to decide how we run our family... Are our family values towards economical success or social success? Society has instead chosen for us - Economical Success. Without money, there will be no talk for marriage or baby...

 

After the 80's, most have the mindset of economical success as the measurement of happiness. The government had been successful in running a nation but her citizens had failed in running a family.

 

[Coolbluewater]

I have to agree partially with the writer. While usually it's wife who decides whether they wanted more kids or not, husbands do have a part to play. Wifes now are tied down with overloading work responsibilities. Everybody has been asking my wife why she doesn't want to have kids. She wanted, but her work doesn't allow her. She runs event almost every weekends, and have meetings almost every alternate nights. In addition, she needs to go overseas, plus she needs to take care of her dementia grandparents during her free time. Of course, her dream is to have kids, for the sake of her grandparents. But time is the factor.

 

I'm inclined to NOT having kids because with my complex medical history, I don't know whether I will live to see my kids grow up. To me it will be extremely selfish to leave it all to the women to bring up the kids alone if I were to go much earlier.