Ryanyusoff 2nd Gear November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 just would like to ask you guys since I have no knowledge of home aircon. for the pipes, is it only using copper pipes? are there brands which use 'stainless steel' or aluminium pipes?I have to admit that I am a new BTO house owner 4 years ago and I know nuts about aircon specs and installation.so I just proceed with whatever I'm comfortable with at that time without any research. Used my aircon coming to 4 years. Only recently hot air blow out. Called a "famous" aircon guy, Edd** from EDMW to take a look. His technician (not the boss)came down to look see and he went to the compressor. He then indicated to me gas pressure is "0". then he saw that the pipes used and claimed that the pipes used are aluminium and that they were inferior as the pipes leak easily. This means, no matter if he top up the gas,it will leak again in a matter of days which would be a waste. Immediately,he called his boss. His boss then told me that I need to replace all the pipes as his technician won't topup the gas if I still use the 'inferior' pipes. and the cost would be $280 for each FCU. in the end,nothing was done and I had to pay $30 for transport charges. any experienced bros can help on this? Do I really need to replace my pipes? Would a total replacement of pipes cost that much? I thought of getting a 2nd opinion but any bros got a verified recommendation? so far, all the contractors I get from the net are not worth recommending. EDMW even worse, so many trolls giving fake recommendations. ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 Unless there's leak or kink at the pipes, there's no need to replace. "inferior" pipes ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 i never hear of air con pipe using aluminum, only copper. The thickness of the pipe is critical as invertor type runs on higher pressure. Its gauge 22 or something. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othello Supersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 just would like to ask you guys since I have no knowledge of home aircon. for the pipes, is it only using copper pipes? are there brands which use 'stainless steel' or aluminium pipes?I have to admit that I am a new BTO house owner 4 years ago and I know nuts about aircon specs and installation.so I just proceed with whatever I'm comfortable with at that time without any research. Used my aircon coming to 4 years. Only recently hot air blow out. Called a "famous" aircon guy, Edd** from EDMW to take a look. His technician (not the boss)came down to look see and he went to the compressor. He then indicated to me gas pressure is "0". then he saw that the pipes used and claimed that the pipes used are aluminium and that they were inferior as the pipes leak easily. This means, no matter if he top up the gas,it will leak again in a matter of days which would be a waste. Immediately,he called his boss. His boss then told me that I need to replace all the pipes as his technician won't topup the gas if I still use the 'inferior' pipes. and the cost would be $280 for each FCU. in the end,nothing was done and I had to pay $30 for transport charges. any experienced bros can help on this? Do I really need to replace my pipes? Would a total replacement of pipes cost that much? I thought of getting a 2nd opinion but any bros got a verified recommendation? so far, all the contractors I get from the net are not worth recommending. EDMW even worse, so many trolls giving fake recommendations. conman spotted Anyone that come and say change this change that ................. If you need a recommendation, PM me. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST69 4th Gear November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 I have nvr heard of aluminium piping. You shd have asked them to pump in the gas & monitor how long it lasts before the aircon is not blowing cold air. Is it only 1 fan coil unit that's having the problem? btw, aircon has to be used regularly to circulate the gas. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 maybe can ask him whether can use stainless steel..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 I dont think Gas leak got anything to do w using alum or copper. Alum also expensive metal 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 conman spotted Anyone that come and say change this change that ................. If you need a recommendation, PM me. Yup seconded. It's a Con. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 I dont think Gas leak got anything to do w using alum or copper. Alum also expensive metal yes it actually does. Copper tubes of wrong thickness will leak over times. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 have to take 3 monthly averages. wah ... his latest bill even more power !! almost half of the elect he consumed b4 the install !! even showed me the bar graph behind the bill ! imagine ... $130 before the gst voucher for the latest SP bill for his 5 room flat ... same as my 3 room flat. he said his usage actually went up because of the haze but his electricity consumption did not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigershark1976 Turbocharged November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 just would like to ask you guys since I have no knowledge of home aircon. for the pipes, is it only using copper pipes? are there brands which use 'stainless steel' or aluminium pipes?I have to admit that I am a new BTO house owner 4 years ago and I know nuts about aircon specs and installation.so I just proceed with whatever I'm comfortable with at that time without any research. Used my aircon coming to 4 years. Only recently hot air blow out. Called a "famous" aircon guy, Edd** from EDMW to take a look. His technician (not the boss)came down to look see and he went to the compressor. He then indicated to me gas pressure is "0". then he saw that the pipes used and claimed that the pipes used are aluminium and that they were inferior as the pipes leak easily. This means, no matter if he top up the gas,it will leak again in a matter of days which would be a waste. Immediately,he called his boss. His boss then told me that I need to replace all the pipes as his technician won't topup the gas if I still use the 'inferior' pipes. and the cost would be $280 for each FCU. in the end,nothing was done and I had to pay $30 for transport charges. any experienced bros can help on this? Do I really need to replace my pipes? Would a total replacement of pipes cost that much? I thought of getting a 2nd opinion but any bros got a verified recommendation? so far, all the contractors I get from the net are not worth recommending. EDMW even worse, so many trolls giving fake recommendations. If your pipe is conceal, finding out the pipe leakage is only possible at both end of the pipe. Otherwise, cost of troubleshooting is almost the same as replacing it. I can only advise you that if you were to replace the pipe, do not joint the pipe. The only joint should be at the compressor and the split unit. 100% of the pipe leakage is at the joint.... btw, Ive never seen an aircon pipe made of other material other than copper... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 for all we know, air con man may mean the evaporator coil that has leaked. It is made of aluminum after all. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 About 7 years back, the serviceman said the I also may have a leak. But he didn't recommend to replace anything, but instead top up my gas and asked me to monitor. If the gas can last for for more than a year then not economical to replace anything. So mine lasted around 2 years for the next top up, and then til now, surprisingly still going strong. The last servicing, which is about 6 years after, serviceman didn't mentioned anything about low gas, so I assume it's still sufficient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianli Hypersonic November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 If your pipe is conceal, finding out the pipe leakage is only possible at both end of the pipe. Otherwise, cost of troubleshooting is almost the same as replacing it. I can only advise you that if you were to replace the pipe, do not joint the pipe. The only joint should be at the compressor and the split unit. 100% of the pipe leakage is at the joint.... btw, Ive never seen an aircon pipe made of other material other than copper... Have lah. Car aircon pipe is aluminum piping. Go open ur bonnet and see. Aluminum pipe is much stronger and more expensive than copper piping. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Have lah. Car aircon pipe is aluminum piping. Go open ur bonnet and see. Aluminum pipe is much stronger and more expensive than copper piping. Home AC, take copper. http://www.ehow.com/info_8613275_differences-copper-tubing-aluminum-tubing.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanyusoff 2nd Gear November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 If your pipe is conceal, finding out the pipe leakage is only possible at both end of the pipe. Otherwise, cost of troubleshooting is almost the same as replacing it. I can only advise you that if you were to replace the pipe, do not joint the pipe. The only joint should be at the compressor and the split unit. 100% of the pipe leakage is at the joint.... btw, Ive never seen an aircon pipe made of other material other than copper... My pipes are not concealed. Will definitely get a second opinion..thanks bro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanyusoff 2nd Gear November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Unless there's leak or kink at the pipes, there's no need to replace. "inferior" pipes ? so far no testing was done. the technician only said that this pipe has slowly leaked over time and even though he top up the gas, it will leak again.so no point in him topping up. I have nvr heard of aluminium piping. You shd have asked them to pump in the gas & monitor how long it lasts before the aircon is not blowing cold air. Is it only 1 fan coil unit that's having the problem? btw, aircon has to be used regularly to circulate the gas. I already asked him to just pump the gas for me to monitor but he die die don't want unless I replace my pipes. he said he don't want to spoil his company reputation coz I may complain that the servicing is not good as the gas may leak out soon. all 3 FCU blowing hot air. I'm only using my aircons on weekends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanyusoff 2nd Gear November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Yup seconded. It's a Con. just my luck bro. so hard to find a trustworthy aircon service guy.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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