Electric cars

[SGCM928]

On 3/22/2021 at 4:02 PM, Didu said:

Any of you staying near to these 4 stations?

Selected Caltex stations to offer fast electric vehicle charging

Four Caltex service stations will soon offer fast charging for electric vehicles, in a partnership between SP Group and Chevron Singapore.

These four stations will have the chargers installed by the second quarter of this year:

• 3700 Yishun Ring Road,
• 78 Changi Road,
• 100 Jurong West Avenue 1
• 130 Dunearn Road 

Three service stations will be equipped with one 50kW DC fast charger. The fourth, at Changi, will have two 50kW DC points that will allow charging up to a speed of 100kW, provided only one car is using the charging points. 

The charging service will be incorporated into the SP Utilities mobile app. Drivers can use the app to check the availability of the nearest charging points, receive real-time updates on their charging sessions and make payment. 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/caltex-electric-vehicle-car-fast-charging-sp-chevron-14462708

 

I am very curious, how can petrol company make decent profits from providing charging facilities for electric cars? 

Unlike petrol or diesel driven vehicles, which took less than 10 minutes to refill and make payment, charging of electric cars take a much longer time, at least 40 minutes to hours. Taking into consideration of the extra turn over time, these petrol company would need much higher mark up to enjoy the same profits of selling fuel.

Another thing, is there any risk with offering charging services side by side with fuel refilling kiosk? 

[inlinesix]

1 minute ago, SGCM928 said:

I am very curious, how can petrol company make decent profits from providing charging facilities for electric cars? 

Unlike petrol or diesel driven vehicles, which took less than 10 minutes to refill and make payment, charging of electric cars take a much longer time, at least 40 minutes to hours. Taking into consideration of the extra turn over time, these petrol company would need much higher mark up to enjoy the same profits of selling fuel.

Another thing, is there any risk with offering charging services side by side with fuel refilling kiosk? 

If read carefully, the charging station belongs to SP Power.  Caltex likely rent the space to SP Power.

Shell set up EV charging station in petrol station now.

[Didu]

Sorry guys, no chip no car  

Nio to temporarily suspend production due to chip shortage

Chinese electric vehicle (EV) maker Nio Inc said on Friday it would halt production for five working days at its Hefei plant, due to a shortage in semiconductor chips.

Nio said it planned to suspend production from Monday. It also cut its first quarter delivery forecast to around 19,500 vehicles, compared to the 20,000 to 20,500 vehicles it had previously expected.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/nio-to-temporarily-suspend-production-due-to-chip-shortage-14497552

Edited March 26, 2021 by Didu

[Ishiwgao]

3 hours ago, Didu said:

Sorry guys, no chip no car  

Nio to temporarily suspend production due to chip shortage

Chinese electric vehicle (EV) maker Nio Inc said on Friday it would halt production for five working days at its Hefei plant, due to a shortage in semiconductor chips.

Nio said it planned to suspend production from Monday. It also cut its first quarter delivery forecast to around 19,500 vehicles, compared to the 20,000 to 20,500 vehicles it had previously expected.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/nio-to-temporarily-suspend-production-due-to-chip-shortage-14497552

not just nio. almost everyone is suspending

Hyundai, Honda, Volvo, Ford, Nissan, Volkswagen, Mitsubishi

https://www.business-standard.com/article/automobile/world-s-biggest-automakers-suspend-operations-as-chip-supplies-dry-up-121032400488_1.html

[Ody_2004]

Nice car nice plate

[Voodooman]

On 3/24/2021 at 10:27 AM, inlinesix said:

 

Tesla's valuation assumes it will dominate the EV market globally but there will be tons of competition everywhere, especially in China.

But i read Tesla's valuation is supported by how its batteries will transform and disrupt the electricity business.  Interesting space to watch.

[Comage]

On 3/28/2021 at 9:37 AM, Ody_2004 said:

Nice car nice plate

Indeed a nice car and a nice plate.

And as I have said in another occasion, the only reason EVs are good for, are for the rich, to function as a 2nd spare car. Yes, the one that they drive around for braggin' rights and "for fun".

Even in the USA - this is the trend for EVs, to function as a spare car and not as a daily driver.
EVs will *NEVER* work for the car owner unless he/she has a dedicated private charging port at their place of residence.

To sustain an EV based on public charging ports, is like owning a handphone but you can only charge from public USB charging points. Would that make any sense? No. Definitely no.

[Voodooman]

7 minutes ago, Comage said:

Indeed a nice car and a nice plate.

And as I have said in another occasion, the only reason EVs are good for, are for the rich, to function as a 2nd spare car. Yes, the one that they drive around for braggin' rights and "for fun".

Even in the USA - this is the trend for EVs, to function as a spare car and not as a daily driver.
EVs will *NEVER* work for the car owner unless he/she has a dedicated private charging port at their place of residence.

To sustain an EV based on public charging ports, is like owning a handphone but you can only charge from public USB charging points. Would that make any sense? No. Definitely no.

Only with dedicated private charging port at place of residence?  NEVER? 

Very strong words, I think.

US is a very big country and the distance are huge. We are just a small city measuring 50km from East to West, we don't need to charge everyday, perhaps once every few days, so common / shared charging facilities in HDB MSCP and in condo can work, just need to work out the logistics, a booking system. It will be messy initially but everyone will learn and adapt.

And 15 mins super charging is coming.

[Comage]

1 minute ago, Voodooman said:

Only with dedicated private charging port at place of residence?  NEVER? 

Very strong words, I think.

US is a very big country and the distance are huge. We are just a small city measuring 50km from East to West, we don't need to charge everyday, perhaps once every few days, so common / shared charging facilities in HDB MSCP and in condo can work, just need to work out the logistics, a booking system. It will be messy initially but everyone will learn and adapt.

And 15 mins super charging is coming.

Yes strong words - it will never work "for the car owner"... Not that I didn't say it won't work in Singapore ever! 

The guy owning the EV will get fed up of the slow chargers, the shenanigans from other EV owners, the non-EV car occupying the charging lot... Etc etc such that it will become such a major turn-off for the EV owner to finally throw in the towel. 

But as another forummer here always saying that we must adapt or we will die anyways, the govt will shove it down our throat etc etc. 

Me, I'll just wait for the day when govt got the balls to lay down 100% EV as the rule and ban all non-EV from our roads before I'll ever buy one. 

[D3badge]

17 hours ago, Comage said:

Indeed a nice car and a nice plate.

And as I have said in another occasion, the only reason EVs are good for, are for the rich, to function as a 2nd spare car. Yes, the one that they drive around for braggin' rights and "for fun".

Even in the USA - this is the trend for EVs, to function as a spare car and not as a daily driver.
EVs will *NEVER* work for the car owner unless he/she has a dedicated private charging port at their place of residence.

To sustain an EV based on public charging ports, is like owning a handphone but you can only charge from public USB charging points. Would that make any sense? No. Definitely no.

agree that why I think one should only buy EV if you stay in landed

[D3badge]

17 hours ago, Comage said:

Yes strong words - it will never work "for the car owner"... Not that I didn't say it won't work in Singapore ever! 

The guy owning the EV will get fed up of the slow chargers, the shenanigans from other EV owners, the non-EV car occupying the charging lot... Etc etc such that it will become such a major turn-off for the EV owner to finally throw in the towel. 

But as another forummer here always saying that we must adapt or we will die anyways, the govt will shove it down our throat etc etc. 

Me, I'll just wait for the day when govt got the balls to lay down 100% EV as the rule and ban all non-EV from our roads before I'll ever buy one. 

The reasoning why the world number 1 car maker delay EV

 

[inlinesix]

17 hours ago, Comage said:

Yes strong words - it will never work "for the car owner"... Not that I didn't say it won't work in Singapore ever! 

The guy owning the EV will get fed up of the slow chargers, the shenanigans from other EV owners, the non-EV car occupying the charging lot... Etc etc such that it will become such a major turn-off for the EV owner to finally throw in the towel. 

But as another forummer here always saying that we must adapt or we will die anyways, the govt will shove it down our throat etc etc. 

Me, I'll just wait for the day when govt got the balls to lay down 100% EV as the rule and ban all non-EV from our roads before I'll ever buy one. 

We are less than 9 years away from the ban on registration of new ICE car.

After that, it will be another 10 years for a hybrid.

Ultimately, CAR LITE.

p.s. since last year, my car mileage is substantially lower than before.  I have adopted half tank pump petrol rather than empty pump petrol.

Edited April 3, 2021 by inlinesix

[inlinesix]

23 minutes ago, D3badge said:

The reasoning why the world number 1 car maker delay EV

Toyota is looking at Solid-State Battery from the onset.

That's why it is very late in EV.

[ferrytales]

21 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

We are less than 9 years away from the ban on registration of new ICE car.

After that, it will be another 10 years for a hybrid.

Ultimately, CAR LITE.

p.s. since last year, my car mileage is substantially lower than before.  I have adopted half tank pump petrol rather than empty pump petrol.

thats about 20 years more, by then i will be too old close to 60+ to even walk, dont even need to think about driving anymore.

[inlinesix]

17 minutes ago, ferrytales said:

thats about 20 years more, by then i will be too old close to 60+ to even walk, dont even need to think about driving anymore.

So young cannot walk.

Rem to do regular maintenance.

[inlinesix]

Public electric vehicle charging point tender draws 19 bids; 600 points to be up as early as end-August
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/public-ev-charging-point-tender-draws-19-bids-600-points-to-be-up-as-early-as

[ferrytales]

5 hours ago, inlinesix said:

So young cannot walk.

Rem to do regular maintenance.

any workshop to recommend? 😂

[inlinesix]

2 minutes ago, ferrytales said:

any workshop to recommend? 😂

@RadX workshop is the best

Edited April 3, 2021 by inlinesix