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inlinesix

inlinesix

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2 hours ago, Beregond said:

confirm ba?

we cannot expect to charge our car foc.

the key is . will charge our car to run for 500km be cheaper then pumping oil to run for 500km.

Tesla Model 8cents/KM using SP Power DC50kw.

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inlinesix

inlinesix

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51 minutes ago, Vinceng said:

You see the way diesel is headed, with increase in diesel tax, you think electric car will be cheaper to run than petrol car in the long run?

Diesel still cheaper to run as compared to Petrol.

In addition, Diesel has lower maintenance 

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minion

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5 hours ago, Calvin8808 said:

I think distance travel tax is the right way to go and fair.

If you travel around a lot and during peak hours and into CBD thus contributing to the traffic jams you should be charged more, but if you always used during off peak hours when the road is empty then you should be paying less.

Of course I didn't take into consideration those doing delivery or grab. But I believed Govt should have some sort of solution to addressed that. I think these groups will be a little bit different. Until the day come we can only wait and see.

Ultimately please remember the govt is already very clear, they are pushing our country to be car lite. So expect more measures and bad news along the way.

That's exactly why I think road usage should be based on time not distance. I think If I stuck on the road for 1 hour even if I travel only 2km, I contribute more Jam than another person who travel 20km in 30min. 

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minion

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15 hours ago, minion said:

 

I was addressing if KL has charging station. This is a different issue that he didn't ask.

Since we are in this topic now, I can share my view based on my experience. Places like KLCC and Desa Park City are relatively safe with charging stations. We can choose to go safer places.

Do I know how dangerous it can be? I dont know actually. I didnt experience it. You can tell me what you experience or what you saw in KL. Maybe what you heard also can. 

I bring in another topic which I think it is more relevant. It is not possible to have charge for every parking lot. It comes down to how fast the vehicle can be charged. If it can be charged enough within 2-3 hours, the acceptance of electric cars will be higher and will get more popular. I go supermarket can charge already. Coming out 50% charged and I can run another 5 days. In between i got other chances to charge again like dinner, movie or shopping, without causing inconvenience to me. Less charging station needed, less hassle for the driver. Technology must come first. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/hyundai-ioniq-5-ev-suv-tesla-volkswagen-electric-range-evs-2021-2

https://www.motor1.com/news/489888/2022-hyundai-ioniq-5-reveal/

Tech has arrived. 5 min of charging can last 100km. The future for full electric cars are even brighter and will come sooner. 

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Freeder

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Betting BIG on EV is another Way to stimulate the economy..

Building new infrastructures, new taxes & etc...

Now is the best opportunity as most sinkies are stuck here n with money to spend..😅😅😅

 

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Sunset73

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9 minutes ago, Chongster said:

Actually why the Japanese car company must make their EVs look stupid cute?  What’s wrong with making them look like normal cars like Tesla ?

 

The Honda e is not only cute but also comes with impressive tech... so much so that when it breaks down, you will be screwed. And the backseat is more suited for pets. For the price that you are paying, the range sucks. However, will buy one just for the head turning effect, if i can ever afford in this lifetime.

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Spidey10

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16 hours ago, Beregond said:

confirm ba?

we cannot expect to charge our car foc.

the key is . will charge our car to run for 500km be cheaper then pumping oil to run for 500km.

for sure they will think of something to - maybe something like electricity duties to offset the loss from fuel. Who knows a pop of charging could be in the region of a few hundred with taxes and duties for infra and electricity generation from fossil fuel...

imagine now you have 500 cars charging per night, and it jumps to 500,00 cars charging per night, what's the impact on the grid lines (sorry I noob on all this, not an engineer nor a scientist)

what read is fossil fuel is still being used to generate electricity (or is it not, in layman's terms) and the more consumption of electricity the more fossil fuel is needed. (actually if my understanding is correct, is it not a chicken and egg thingy...you cut the pollution at the end i.e cars with combustion engine, but the pollution is then generated at the front end where the fuel is used to generate electricity.,..so like lppl - as far as i understand)

back to the impact of 500,00 cars charging per night - what's the impact here? grid will be heavily used and more "fire" required to push to meet the 500,00 cars consumption...so how ah?

just thinking aloud.....and for sure, i believe the cost of electricity will go up! Is it more efficient than using fuel - i don't know...[laugh] 

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Beregond

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12 minutes ago, Spidey10 said:

for sure they will think of something to - maybe something like electricity duties to offset the loss from fuel. Who knows a pop of charging could be in the region of a few hundred with taxes and duties for infra and electricity generation from fossil fuel...

imagine now you have 500 cars charging per night, and it jumps to 500,00 cars charging per night, what's the impact on the grid lines (sorry I noob on all this, not an engineer nor a scientist)

what read is fossil fuel is still being used to generate electricity (or is it not, in layman's terms) and the more consumption of electricity the more fossil fuel is needed. (actually if my understanding is correct, is it not a chicken and egg thingy...you cut the pollution at the end i.e cars with combustion engine, but the pollution is then generated at the front end where the fuel is used to generate electricity.,..so like lppl - as far as i understand)

back to the impact of 500,00 cars charging per night - what's the impact here? grid will be heavily used and more "fire" required to push to meet the 500,00 cars consumption...so how ah?

just thinking aloud.....and for sure, i believe the cost of electricity will go up! Is it more efficient than using fuel - i don't know...[laugh] 

can imagine how many digging and how many extra cables need to be lay.

despite all this i feel there is no other way then to go full ev. it will take time, maybe 10-20 years.

just that dun expect it to be cheap, all the cost for the infrastructure will be pass down to the driver.

 

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boonhat_91

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1 hour ago, Spidey10 said:

 

back to the impact of 500,00 cars charging per night - what's the impact here? grid will be heavily used and more "fire" required to push to meet the 500,00 cars consumption...so how ah?

Maybe more blackouts? Can have romantic candlelight

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Yewheng

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35 minutes ago, boonhat_91 said:

Maybe more blackouts? Can have romantic candlelight

More blackouts means the one doing the planning is not doing the job well. Singapore now got at least 10 years ahead to plan. Want to go full electric by 2040 right? So planning on jump in electric demand should also need to incorporate in planning now. Supposing those at the top doing the planning will surely think of this problem too. 

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Calvin8808

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13 hours ago, minion said:

That's exactly why I think road usage should be based on time not distance. I think If I stuck on the road for 1 hour even if I travel only 2km, I contribute more Jam than another person who travel 20km in 30min. 

Should be both ba, distance travelled and the time you using which I mentioned previously (peak, off-peak hours etc)

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1 hour ago, boonhat_91 said:

Maybe more blackouts? Can have romantic candlelight

Let's assume 6kw/h per car on charge. 1000 cars = 6MW; 10,000 cars = 60MW

Our current power station per generator is 400MW (100% load). On average, each power station has 6 to 8 generators and private operators such as petro-chemical Exxonmobil, incinerator plants also selling power to the grid.

As such, I don't think there is any issue for 60,000 EVs charging at any one time by 2030

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Lethalstrike

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It's true we had excess capacity. And we're even considering to buy electricity from Malaysia so as to diversify the source, and to "export" out the carbon emissions. 

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