Electric cars

[inlinesix]

On 5/22/2024 at 2:47 PM, metalstream said:

Mercedes to pull back on EV plans. 👏

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/05/18/mercedes-latest-german-automaker-to-pull-back-on-its-electric-car-plans/

Another Kodak Moment 🤭

[Tianmo]

PHEV, with a longer range and faster charge battery is the way forward.

 

Edited May 22, 2024 by Tianmo

[Rayleigh]

So how about our SG goal "end sales of new cars with internal combustion engines from 2030, with plans to phase them out entirely by 2040" Need to shift too?😁

[Tianmo]

On 5/22/2024 at 3:58 PM, Rayleigh said:

So how about our SG goal "end sales of new cars with internal combustion engines from 2030, with plans to phase them out entirely by 2040" Need to shift too?😁

All go Chinese, and push on.

 

[inlinesix]

On 5/22/2024 at 3:58 PM, Rayleigh said:

So how about our SG goal "end sales of new cars with internal combustion engines from 2030, with plans to phase them out entirely by 2040" Need to shift too?😁

We have no issue with PRC car Right?

[Rayleigh]

On 5/22/2024 at 4:06 PM, inlinesix said:

We have no issue with PRC car Right?

I prefer hybrid. So many years of R&D and refinement on ICE, its a pity to put a stop to it. 

[AlexanderArk17]

If you're thinking about getting an EV, it's really helpful to check out user reviews, especially from people who live in similar weather as you. Look for models with good battery cooling systems to make sure they last longer and work well.

[Vratenza]

On 5/22/2024 at 3:38 PM, Tianmo said:

PHEV, with a longer range and faster charge battery is the way forward.

 

Personally, I don't think so.... 2 dual ai mai system just means dual set of servicing and wear and tear issues. 

When the tech is good enough for longer range and faster charging battery... It means BEVs will be good enough to replace ICE anyway. 

We have seen how our ah gong handles halfbaked schemes like LPG hybrid... 

So in the meanwhile, just enjoy the swan song of ICE and let others be the guinea pigs if you can... Unless you have tonnes of money to spare and wants to help with nation building... By all means😙

[Mkl22]

On 5/22/2024 at 4:06 PM, Tianmo said:

All go Chinese, and push on.

 

then all AMDK will block chinese cars with high tarriff. China got no where to sell. EVs dont sell in India, Africa, Japan, or South america.

[Mkl22]

On 5/22/2024 at 3:58 PM, Rayleigh said:

So how about our SG goal "end sales of new cars with internal combustion engines from 2030, with plans to phase them out entirely by 2040" Need to shift too?😁

Ke-Belakang Pusing! Lup.. Lup... Lup..... right Lup.....

[Terence2112]

Biggest issue with EV is the available distance for a full 100% charge, and even so, it is advisable to charge to 80%. 
 

Local context, no problem. Charging stations almost everywhere. But going up North, to KL, Genting will be a problem. 

[inlinesix]

On 5/22/2024 at 9:39 PM, Mkl22 said:

then all AMDK will block chinese cars with high tarriff. China got no where to sell. EVs dont sell in India, Africa, Japan, or South america.

BYD is setting up factory in Mexico & Hungary.

Bringing along the entire supply chain

🤭

[Terence2112]

BYD is expanding into EU like a bullet train. The Atto is going to be a national vehicle, just like Vezel. 

[Maxus-MIFA9]

On 5/22/2024 at 9:51 PM, Terence2112 said:

Biggest issue with EV is the available distance for a full 100% charge, and even so, it is advisable to charge to 80%. 
 

Local context, no problem. Charging stations almost everywhere. But going up North, to KL, Genting will be a problem. 

Travelling in MY on the West side not a problem. Many Charging Stations along the highway, rest points and petrol kiosks.

The problem is by road on East side to Kelantan & Kedah after Kota Tinggi. 

Very few charging stations. 

Edited May 22, 2024 by Maxus-MIFA9

[Mkl22]

On 5/23/2024 at 6:49 AM, Maxus-MIFA9 said:

Travelling in MY on the West side not a problem. Many Charging Stations along the highway, rest points and petrol kiosks.

The problem is by road on East side to Kelantan & Kedah after Kota Tinggi. 

Very few charging stations. 

fly or rent, dont go or just simply wing it. 1st world problem.

[Sdf4786k]

On 5/22/2024 at 9:51 PM, Terence2112 said:

Biggest issue with EV is the available distance for a full 100% charge, and even so, it is advisable to charge to 80%. 
 

Local context, no problem. Charging stations almost everywhere. But going up North, to KL, Genting will be a problem. 

EV is all about Battery tech, just like ICE is all about lean burn and turbo charging...with CATL and Blade battery, its no longer a valid reason to worry about charging to 100% like a HP battery. The main reason now is , charging from 80 to 100% takes as much time as 20% to 80%. that 20% of wait time dont make econmic sense of time wasted. Further more, we have evolve from 400v to 800 volt architecture with close to 1000KM range for cars been produce from 2025. 

The cost of ICE engine vs BAttery is the killer. With the new advancement recently, the cost of batt is now 30 to 40% of the total cost of the EV. so it has become relatively competitive in producing the EV then ICE.

This obvious reason other then the subsidies has made the EV from China even cheaper . The stigma of China product has been increasing reduce to the part that China made product is now the new benchmark for quality and premium feel. 

Edited May 23, 2024 by Sdf4786k

[Lethalstrike]

On 5/22/2024 at 9:33 PM, Vratenza said:

Personally, I don't think so.... 2 dual ai mai system just means dual set of servicing and wear and tear issues. 

When the tech is good enough for longer range and faster charging battery... It means BEVs will be good enough to replace ICE anyway. 

We have seen how our ah gong handles halfbaked schemes like LPG hybrid... 

So in the meanwhile, just enjoy the swan song of ICE and let others be the guinea pigs if you can... Unless you have tonnes of money to spare and wants to help with nation building... By all means😙

Nowadays AMDK brands like VW, MB are backtracking on BEVs and aim to build more hybrids including PHEVs. Not because BEVs are not good, but because it's really tough to compete against the price points of Chinese BEVs. So might as well pull out of the earlier strategy and refocus on what's left on the table 😁 

[Beregond]

What happen to the hype of hydrogen engine from BMW and Toyota.

Notice so many video of it that it's gonna be the next big thing😅