Electric cars

[steveting99]

On 2/23/2024 at 10:54 AM, DOBIEMKZ said:

Honda and GM have already said goodbye to electric cars: this is how they are preparing their new hydrogen beast

by La Grada  02/22/2024 14:10 in Automobiles

Honda and GM have already said goodbye to electric cars: this is how they are preparing their new hydrogen beast

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Together, Honda and General Motors (GM) will be significant players in the research, development, and manufacturing of hydrogen fuel cell cars (HFCVs). Through this collaboration, the technology will be used more quickly and might completely transform the transportation industry.

As part of their collaborative effort to accelerate the advancement and fabrication of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles (HFCVs), Honda and GM founded the Fuel Cell System Manufacturing LLC (FCSM), a specialized plant for mass-producing HFC systems for their respective models. 

By combining Honda’s fuel cell technology and GM’s manufacturing expertise, both corporations want to advance hydrogen fuel cell technology, cut expenses, and expand their manufacturing capacities to take advantage of economies of scale. In the long run, this partnership may lead to greater acceptance of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles by utilizing the advantages of each company.

Vehicles using hydrogen fuel cells run on an efficient and clean electrochemical method, as opposed to gasoline engines, which depend on combustion. They use hydrogen gas as fuel, and electricity is produced from hydrogen and oxygen through a sequence of events inside the fuel cell stack. Since the only consequence of this process is water vapor, hydrogen fuel cell cars represent a viable, low-emission, environmentally friendly mode of transportation.

Benefits of hydrogen fuel cell (HFC) technology

Transportation without emissions: HFCVs only emit water vapor as a byproduct, making them a more environmentally friendly option than conventional gasoline and electric cars, which depend on the creation of batteries and power.

Extended driving range: HFCVs have driving ranges that are on a level with gasoline-powered automobiles, which may allay worries about the constrained range that is sometimes connected to electric vehicles.

Quick refuel: Refueling a hydrogen car can be faster than charging an electric vehicle, potentially offering more convenience on long trips.

Honda’s new hydrogen vehicle 

The Honda CR-V HFCV is a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle based on the popular Honda CR-V SUV. It has an estimated driving range of around 250 miles on a single fill of hydrogen, which is comparable to many gasoline-powered vehicles.

The 2024 CR-V has a tough exterior with a lengthy wheelbase and broad stance. This hydrogen fuel cell vehicle is equipped with features such as roof rails and a hands-free power tailgate, which make it suitable for a variety of adventures, whether you’re driving across town or the country.

Honda has designed an ideal cabin to explore the country. Thanks to a simple layout and wide sightlines, you will feel right at home as soon as you step in. A roomy cargo area, front seats with body-stabilizing technology, and a Bose premium sound system are among the interior features.

Additionally, there are many advancements in the CR-V, including responsive acceleration in both powertrains and elegant handling with available all-wheel drive (AWD). You can easily connect your smartphone with the available 9-inch touchscreen and wireless Apple CarPlay compatibility.

The CR-V FCEV is an amazing car, but perhaps its only drawback is the availability of hydrogen refueling stations is limited compared to traditional gas stations, which means that it can only be leased in California, where the hydrogen infrastructure is more developed.

The future of Honda and GM partnership 

The association between Honda and GM is a major advancement for HFC technology. Nonetheless, additional work is required to solve issues, build out the hydrogen infrastructure, and increase customer interest in and accessibility of HFC vehicles. 

While HFC technology is promising, challenges including low infrastructure for recharging, high production costs, and consumer range anxiety must be resolved if HFCV is to become more widely used. Therefore, Honda and GM should remain committed to further research and development of HFC technology to improve efficiency, reduce costs, and expand the range of HFCVs.

Furthermore, the joint venture investments between Honda and GM should concentrate on constructing a strong hydrogen refueling infrastructure, since this is essential for maintaining the feasibility and widespread integration of HFC automobiles.

@DOBIEMKZ Wondering how many CR-V FCEV cars Honda is going to sell in 2024? Honda must be a bit worried about Toyota's price cut of 60% on the Mirai FCEV here: https://www.gbnews.com/lifestyle/cars/toyota-offer-hydrogen-vehicle-mirai-demand-us. 

Surprised that Toyota only sold 2,737 Mirai units in 2023. Hyundai sold only 241 of its HFCV units (Nexo) in 2023. Overall the HFCV market is tiny - wonder why?

One theory is that If people are worried about charging stations for their new BEV, those considering HFC vehicles should be in panic mode on where to get their next hydrogen fill up. 

[Voodooman]

On 2/28/2024 at 9:54 PM, Vratenza said:

Free trade is only for countries that has differenf competitive advantage over each other.... In USA/European countries case... 😅

Chinese EV is a threat to US national security. 

Investigating into Chinese EV software, a surprising novel way to protect the US auto market from foreign car manufacturers.

 

[mersaylee]

I tink 白钝 watch that movie and scared until laosai...issued executive order to that siao jarbor to investigate...when the greatest threat is actually from within...😂

https://www.looper.com/1467425/leave-the-world-behind-netflix-ending-explained/

[Vratenza]

On 3/2/2024 at 11:16 AM, Voodooman said:

Chinese EV is a threat to US national security. 

Investigating into Chinese EV software, a surprising novel way to protect the US auto market from foreign car manufacturers.

 

just like TikTok and Huawei....😁

[Beregond]

On 3/2/2024 at 11:16 AM, Voodooman said:

Chinese EV is a threat to US national security. 

Investigating into Chinese EV software, a surprising novel way to protect the US auto market from foreign car manufacturers.

 

For political means . Even a pigeon can be a security threat .

What else cannot? Every things go😂

[mersaylee]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:09 PM, Beregond said:

For political means . Even a pigeon can be a security threat .

What else cannot? Every things go😂

Literally smlj also can be a threat 😂

[DOBIEMKZ]

On 3/2/2024 at 11:16 AM, Voodooman said:

Chinese EV is a threat to US national security. 

Investigating into Chinese EV software, a surprising novel way to protect the US auto market from foreign car manufacturers.

 

USA go eats shit lah! Every time some Chinese tech wins, they deem it as security threat. ://

[inlinesix]

Other than Tesla, all American carmakers are way behind the curve

[jcmm]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:50 PM, DOBIEMKZ said:

USA go eats shit lah! Every time some Chinese tech wins, they deem it as security threat. ://

Ego.... they must lead the way n not lag behind. 

[Voodooman]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:07 PM, Vratenza said:

just like TikTok and Huawei....😁

From a country that has preached free trade and free markets for decades (we truly believed the Washington consensus is real), now we know this free trade and free markets only applies when it is beneficial to US.

On hindsight, is Huawei's 5G a real national security threat or something else? 😃

[Vratenza]

On 3/3/2024 at 1:20 PM, Voodooman said:

From a country that has preached free trade and free markets for decades (we truly believed the Washington consensus is real), now we know this free trade and free markets only applies when it is beneficial to US.

On hindsight, is Huawei's 5G a real national security threat or something else? 😃

On hindsight... Our reserves and head of Temasek remuneration is national security issues too... 😁

[Voodooman]

On 3/2/2024 at 6:43 PM, jcmm said:

Ego.... they must lead the way n not lag behind. 

Go read what they did to Japan when it threatened them technologically in 20-30 years ago.  There is a pattern. So don't believe in their free trade BS.  This is realpolitik.

Edited March 3, 2024 by Voodooman

[inlinesix]

On 3/3/2024 at 1:20 PM, Voodooman said:

From a country that has preached free trade and free markets for decades (we truly believed the Washington consensus is real), now we know this free trade and free markets only applies when it is beneficial to US.

On hindsight, is Huawei's 5G a real national security threat or something else? 😃

It is a security threat since American don’t own the technology 

[Koster]

It is all about politics 

[Vratenza]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:50 PM, DOBIEMKZ said:

USA go eats shit lah! Every time some Chinese tech wins, they deem it as security threat. ://

USA is machiam one insecure bitch... 😂

[Heartbreakid]

On 3/3/2024 at 2:34 PM, Vratenza said:

USA is machiam one insecure bitch... 😂

I think kiasu, kiasi, don't just apply to us but also US. Hahaha.

[Lethalstrike]

On 3/3/2024 at 1:20 PM, Voodooman said:

From a country that has preached free trade and free markets for decades (we truly believed the Washington consensus is real), now we know this free trade and free markets only applies when it is beneficial to US.

On hindsight, is Huawei's 5G a real national security threat or something else? 😃

Military might is the real might to preach "free trade". Can impose on other countries which they perceive as a long term threat with no real repercussions. 

Largest airforce in the world is the US Airforce. 2nd largest? US Navy with it's aircraft carriers 😂

[Tianmo]

China very unlikely will u turn on EVs, and they are quickly moving into PHEVs and HEVs as well.  By the time the west realize it, China brands would be smiling at them.