Electric cars

[inlinesix]

3 minutes ago, Lethalstrike said:

$4,180 for a 400hp zero exhaust emissions EV is daylight robbery by LTA/NEA. 

Ferrari Roma's 3.9L V8 twin turbo 612hp with dirtiest VES C2 emission is $3,722 per year, only. 

Road tax is supposedly to tax vehicles and penalize those with high emissions, but it has become a money grabbing exercise for the LTA. 

Sooner or later, it will be harmonised.

A45s only pay $1.2k road tax.

If based on power, it will be $3.6k.

[Tkseah]

Are Conti EV cars lower maintenance and less prone to breakdown as compared to Conti ICE cars?

[inlinesix]

3 minutes ago, Tkseah said:

Are Conti EV cars lower maintenance and less prone to breakdown as compared to Conti ICE cars?

In general, EV has almost zero maintenance.

 

[Tkseah]

2 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

In general, EV has almost zero maintenance.

 

I wonder if Conti EV will be more reliable and lesser breakdown when compared with Jap ICE cars..

[inlinesix]

Just now, Tkseah said:

I wonder if Conti EV will be more reliable and lesser breakdown when compared with Jap ICE cars..

Difficult to compare.

German air cond confirm will lose out to Jap.

Brake will definitely last longer.

Coolant may be about the same.

Other than that, not much can compare

[Tkseah]

2 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Difficult to compare.

German air cond confirm will lose out to Jap.

Brake will definitely last longer.

Coolant may be about the same.

Other than that, not much can compare

Generally I would prefer Jap ICE for it being less problematic.. so would pick a Corolla over Conti ICE models.. but if a budget Conti EV like the Opel Mokka EV can be even less problematic than Jap ICE, then maybe can consider a budget Conti EV..

[t0y0ta]

45 minutes ago, Lethalstrike said:

$4,180 for a 400hp zero exhaust emissions EV is daylight robbery by LTA/NEA. 

Ferrari Roma's 3.9L V8 twin turbo 612hp with dirtiest VES C2 emission is $3,722 per year, only. 

Road tax is supposedly to tax vehicles and penalize those with high emissions, but it has become a money grabbing exercise for the LTA. 

 

Not really lah... stupid EV does not pay petrol tax to govt, so wise govt must find a way to get the funding to help Singaporeans improve their lot.

Otherwise who pay for your highway to do 2sec 0-100 ludicrous mode?

And more importantly who will pay for LTA spanking new building in Jurong?

[inlinesix]

5 minutes ago, Tkseah said:

Generally I would prefer Jap ICE for it being less problematic.. so would pick a Corolla over Conti ICE models.. but if a budget Conti EV like the Opel Mokka EV can be even less problematic than Jap ICE, then maybe can consider a budget Conti EV..

Currently, there are 2 types of EV (from my POV)

1. Compromised EV: This is based on ICE chassis.  Avoid it as it is NOT optimised for electric driving;

2. EV: This is based EV archi (Chassis and electrical system)

Mokka is a compromised EV

Tesla is an EV

[DOBIEMKZ]

23 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Difficult to compare.

German air cond confirm will lose out to Jap.

Brake will definitely last longer.

Coolant may be about the same.

Other than that, not much can compare

I add in suspension; too complicated.

[inlinesix]

3 minutes ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

I add in suspension; too complicated.

Honda Civic Type R

https://global.honda/innovation/technology/automobile/CivicTypeR/engineer-talk/talk03.html

[DOBIEMKZ]

10 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Honda Civic Type R

https://global.honda/innovation/technology/automobile/CivicTypeR/engineer-talk/talk03.html

Honda one I like; the Japs engineered their cars to make drivers' life actually better; the Germans engineered their cars to make the drivers feel better.

[inlinesix]

Just now, DOBIEMKZ said:

Honda one I like; the Japs engineered their cars to make drivers' life actually better; the Germans engineered their cars to make the drivers feel better.

I disagree with the bold statement.

According to YT reviewer, previous Gen Type R does not have much steering feedback due to zero scrub radius.

To fix this problem, Honda increase tyre width.

We should stop OT now.

 

 

[Lethalstrike]

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

Sooner or later, it will be harmonised.

A45s only pay $1.2k road tax.

If based on power, it will be $3.6k.

Precisely my point. The road tax structure here has been outpaced by technology.

How is it fair for zero emissions EVs to be penalised like this? Utterly ridiculous. 

[Lethalstrike]

1 hour ago, t0y0ta said:

Not really lah... stupid EV does not pay petrol tax to govt, so wise govt must find a way to get the funding to help Singaporeans improve their lot.

Otherwise who pay for your highway to do 2sec 0-100 ludicrous mode?

And more importantly who will pay for LTA spanking new building in Jurong?

Ah, now that you bring that up.

Are you aware that in order to recoup back lost petrol excise duties, something called AFC (Additional Flat Component) is added on top of an EV's road tax?

So you pay through the nose for the EV road tax, then govt rub it in by imposing a flat $700 AFC on top of that.

If this isn't already stupid and greedy, what is? 

[DOBIEMKZ]

56 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

I disagree with the bold statement.

According to YT reviewer, previous Gen Type R does not have much steering feedback due to zero scrub radius.

To fix this problem, Honda increase tyre width.

We should stop OT now.

 

 

What is OT in your post?

[inlinesix]

13 minutes ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

What is OT in your post?

Suspension

[Volvobrick]

50 minutes ago, Lethalstrike said:

If this isn't already stupid and greedy, what is? 

It's smart greedy. Dead dino juice for me! 

[Volvobrick]

2 hours ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

I add in suspension; too complicated.

Germans must have invested big time in companies making the rubber bushings. 4 links = 8 bushings, 5 links 10!

Not even counting the anti-roll bars. 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Volvobrick