Electric cars

[PaulMeng]

@inlinesix How you know the E power will go into limp mode when going up genting highlands? Any evidences to proof?

Small battery is well design by nissan engineers to save fuel cost during jam and low cost to make. 

[inlinesix]

13 minutes ago, PaulMeng said:

@inlinesix How you know the E power will go into limp mode when going up genting highlands? Any evidences to proof?

Small battery is well design by nissan engineers to save fuel cost during jam and low cost to make. 

It is well documented in NIssan Serena thread.
It is bad design to cut cost.

Toyota Prius PHEV has a bigger battery than NIssan Serena 

[PaulMeng]

@inlinesix For design wise, its up to the current car owners to feedback. so far so good for me.  do you have the link the documented evidences? the charging is good enough charge the car to continue to move the car. For me, i am driving Kicks E power and i will definitely go up genting highlands when the borders are open again. 

Edited October 8, 2021 by PaulMeng

[PaulMeng]

@inlinesix https://asean.nissannews.com/en/releases/release-f5f104ccee7dd48ae8302685530005bd-nissan-launches-all-new-kicks-e-power-in-thailand

"Unique to e-POWER technology, when extra acceleration is required or when climbing a steep hill, the electric motor receives power from both the battery and the engine to enhance its performance." Can prove them wrong or right? Wait for the borders to open and we shall see...  

[diming87]

@PaulMeng based on the article: "The e-POWER system offers a maximum power of 95 kilowatts (kW) (129 PS), a maximum flat-torque of 260 Nm, and a lithium-ion battery—all delivering a driving experience similar to an EV. The 1.57 kWh lithium-ion battery in the all-new Nissan Kicks  e-POWER has four modules that provide smooth acceleration, quiet rides, and increased fuel efficiency."

1.57kWh battery for 95kW of max power. With these 2 figures, the battery can work at max power for ~1min. You have 1 min to climb the steep hill before you ran out of juice. That is if the system allow you to completely drain the battery module. 

Sometime back, I was not able to find the power of the 1.2L "generator". Any idea how many kW is it?  

[inlinesix]

12 minutes ago, diming87 said:

@PaulMeng based on the article: "The e-POWER system offers a maximum power of 95 kilowatts (kW) (129 PS), a maximum flat-torque of 260 Nm, and a lithium-ion battery—all delivering a driving experience similar to an EV. The 1.57 kWh lithium-ion battery in the all-new Nissan Kicks  e-POWER has four modules that provide smooth acceleration, quiet rides, and increased fuel efficiency."

1.57kWh battery for 95kW of max power. With these 2 figures, the battery can work at max power for ~1min. You have 1 min to climb the steep hill before you ran out of juice. That is if the system allow you to completely drain the battery module. 

Sometime back, I was not able to find the power of the 1.2L "generator". Any idea how many kW is it?  

Unless NIssan change its powertrain

He can always try full load up Mt Faber from Lower Delta Road.

 

[diming87]

@inlinesix totally agree. It needs a bigger engine for more power, and it will be good to bypass battery to improve its longevity. 

full load up Mt Faber from Lower Delta Road is a good start to test. 

[inlinesix]

3 minutes ago, diming87 said:

@inlinesix totally agree. It needs a bigger engine for more power, and it will be good to bypass battery to improve its longevity. 

full load up Mt Faber from Lower Delta Road is a good start to test. 

It needs the battery of Prius PHEV (8.8kwh).

Prius PHEV has a range of 40km (estimated).

[diming87]

@inlinesix 8.8kW is good to have if daily trip is roughly 40km or less.

for me, 40km only cover one way trip to work and my office doesnt has charging facility. a bigger engine which can fully take over the load is more important. or perhaps, i need a 80km battery to cover my daily journey. 😏

[inlinesix]

51 minutes ago, diming87 said:

@inlinesix 8.8kW is good to have if daily trip is roughly 40km or less.

for me, 40km only cover one way trip to work and my office doesnt has charging facility. a bigger engine which can fully take over the load is more important. or perhaps, i need a 80km battery to cover my daily journey. 😏

With 8.8kwh battery, it is likely charging will be each half of your daily trip.

[PaulMeng]

@diming87 the e-power system will charge along the way when climbing up hill. it will keep charging to ensure sufficient battery life for maximum power. other than that, the e power system is very smart to mitigate the current road condition you are in. 

Edited October 11, 2021 by PaulMeng

[PaulMeng]

@inlinesix good idea, ok i will try soon...

[diming87]

@PaulMeng not true, as the article you shared, it mentioned maximum power come from both battery and engine generator at the same time. so at max power output, no net power from engine generator is charging the battery, all is going to power the motor. You have 1minute to climb, or it will enter limp mode.

Max power = engine generator + battery power = 95kW
Limp mode = engine generator = ? kW < 95kW

18 hours ago, PaulMeng said:

@diming87 the e-power system will charge along the way when climbing up hill. it will keep charging to ensure sufficient battery life for maximum power. other than that, the e power system is very smart to mitigate the current road condition you are in. 

 

[PaulMeng]

@diming87 The e power charging system will keep charging to ensure sufficient power during steep slope climb to keep the vehicle moving. The ultimate questions is how fast it can climb during this stage which need to try out. 

[Brass]

On 9/24/2021 at 2:12 PM, diming87 said:

@inlinesix Hyundai EVs has those active safety distance, Ioniq and Kona. I dont think we have any Nissan and Renault EV in the local market. 

Nissan Leaf: Am I so leafy that I blended into the bushes?

The Zoe is phased out and the Kangoo Z E is long in the tooth.

They are still trying to fling off some Zoes registered in 2020 as management cars although with the terrible ride and condition for a management car, I think letting it rot is a better option unless they offer a very good price.

The new batch of Renault electrics are promising.

 

[inlinesix]

18 minutes ago, PaulMeng said:

@diming87 The e power charging system will keep charging to ensure sufficient power during steep slope climb to keep the vehicle moving. The ultimate questions is how fast it can climb during this stage which need to try out. 

With 1kwh battery, confirm it will not fast enough for output 

[Mkl22]

42 minutes ago, Brass said:

Nissan Leaf: Am I so leafy that I blended into the bushes?

The Zoe is phased out and the Kangoo Z E is long in the tooth.

They are still trying to fling off some Zoes registered in 2020 as management cars although with the terrible ride and condition for a management car, I think letting it rot is a better option unless they offer a very good price.

The new batch of Renault electrics are promising.

 

Renault Ah? Give me I also don’t want. 😄

[Ct3833]

1 hour ago, Mkl22 said:

Renault Ah? Give me I also don’t want. 😄

I won't buy one, but if give me I will take. 

Edited October 12, 2021 by Ct3833