Uh Oh... camo pattern uniform no work

[Sosaria]

Maybe paratroopers.........you look up thought it's sky and clouds........but can use only during fair weather.....

 

Their camo cream is even funnier... got red and blue. Like using water colour or poster colour paints

[Royho1979]

Sorry to interrupt the heated discussion before two of you lash out military knowledge. Can first share your military background. Maybe rank and PES status. my 2 cents of thought

 

Worked in DSTA for 2 years. PES C9L2 at ORD. Coporal. Medic.

 

Frankly rank and PES status mean nothing in this context. A Singapore S League player may play more actual football hours than Arsene Wenger or Sir Alex Ferguson, but would he know more about football than them?

[Wishcumstrue]

The US army uniform is really terrible. i see some US army peronnel wore them 2 weeks ago. Not sure what they are thinking.

At first I think tehy are special camo for cetain terrain like urban, but after seeing this thraed, LOL.

But I do think our pixelise uniform is a vast improvement, but I think it is more about the colors choice than pattern.

 

yeah, poor choice of colour for the US Army "universal" scheme.

Classic case of one size does not fits all.

 

When I tried out their official game AA3, I was puzzled why the figures look so much more visible and thought it was due to the game's poor graphic colour tone.

[Cichildae]

Local environment? Er... In where... MBS? Suntec city, Tanjong Pagar and other local environment, the uniform sticks out like a sorethumb...

 

In my opinion, by the time the war ever hit MBS, Suntec etc we have already lost the war ... What u wan to defend then? The casino ah?

 

Look at the surrounding of Singapore and google map.. There are still forest and trees along the outskirts right but that is out last line of defense already.. Singapore warfare is different as compare to other countries.. We have to fight out of Singapore to win the war.. So around SIngapore is where and what are the terrains there?

 

[Wishcumstrue]

Please tell me this is just their parade uniform and not the actual uniform to be use in combat.

 

Those are only for parade use lah!.

The actual PLA combat uniform was intro in 2007 using four types of pixel-camo called Type-07 (07式军)

 

Woodland, Desert, Urban and Ocean

 

Compared: Desert vs Urban

[Bystander50]

have you seen the new SAF Number 4 in action??

 

i did, its hard for the naked eyes to spot even when the person didnt camoe his face and lying flat on the open field.

 

i will think ours are at least match nicely for our country usage.

 

You missed my point. SAF always "adapt" (copy) what hte US military is using. When they change uniform, we'll do it shortly.

If the pixalated uniform does camo the soldier well, why isn't our local military industry first to come out with it? Sg is always obsessed with being the world's first in everything.

We proclaimed we came out with our very own assult rifle (though a bit cut and paste from other rifles), so why didn't our the scientists/researchers beat the US to be the first to introduce the uniform?

 

I MRed 1 year before my unit is due for the change and I don't dispute the effectiveness of the uniform.

What I'm stating is we are always following what Uncle Sam is doing.

 

 

[Bystander50]

In my opinion, by the time the war ever hit MBS, Suntec etc we have already lost the war ... What u wan to defend then? The casino ah?

 

Look at the surrounding of Singapore and google map.. There are still forest and trees along the outskirts right but that is out last line of defense already.. Singapore warfare is different as compare to other countries.. We have to fight out of Singapore to win the war.. So around SIngapore is where and what are the terrains there?

 

If the enemy is deploying large number of troops along their southern coastline, how do you move a few btn across the straits undetected to fight in their local environment?

 

Even if the SAF troops managed to sneak in, if the tensions are resolved without firing a shot, next, how would you bring back these troops silently.

The troops all bury their weapons and uniforms and surrender as "illegal immigrants" since they move in without passports.

By moving troops in before the first shots are fired, it's almost as good as an act of war already.

 

 

[Unidentified]

because uncle sam have proven war track records so they must be right always,our bookworm scholars knows nut about REAL warfare other than playing computer games fighting in plc.

the only thing they know is memorize their way thru.

 

[Unidentified]

If the enemy is deploying large number of troops along their southern coastline, how do you move a few btn across the straits undetected to fight in their local environment?

 

Even if the SAF troops managed to sneak in, if the tensions are resolved without firing a shot, next, how would you bring back these troops silently.

The troops all bury their weapons and uniforms and surrender as "illegal immigrants" since they move in without passports.

By moving troops in before the first shots are fired, it's almost as good as an act of war already.

 

pass the nominal roll list to the enemy customs and tell them charlie130 holland and paratroopers are blow by strong winds into their land.thanks them for the sightseeing trip and ask them indent a few tonners to ferry them back to sgp.

Edited June 26, 2012 by Unidentified

[Bystander50]

Maybe now the digital cameras are more sharp and will not be fooled by the pixelated uniform. Perhaps now the digital camera image sensors use hexagon and super duper high retina technology.

 

I remember the argument for the pixelated uniform is because sertalite and surveillance cam will not easily discern the pixels uniforms, as the pixels will confuse and blend in with the Cam image sensors.

 

In the jungle, even the old uniform will not be easily picked up, unless the satellite zooms in on the area.

Usually these satellites snap the images of a very large area where sometimes it may not even pick up a man on the street.

 

Look at Google Earth, you'll see the outline of them stitching several large images to form a single large one. And zooming to the max, I can't even see people walking along Orchard Road.

 

[Pocus]

You missed my point. SAF always "adapt" (copy) what hte US military is using. When they change uniform, we'll do it shortly.

If the pixalated uniform does camo the soldier well, why isn't our local military industry first to come out with it? Sg is always obsessed with being the world's first in everything.

We proclaimed we came out with our very own assult rifle (though a bit cut and paste from other rifles), so why didn't our the scientists/researchers beat the US to be the first to introduce the uniform?

 

I MRed 1 year before my unit is due for the change and I don't dispute the effectiveness of the uniform.

What I'm stating is we are always following what Uncle Sam is doing.

 

I think Singapore has already past proclaiming to be the world's first in stuff but have you thought on the reason and impact behind these stuff? I'm sure you agreed that we came a long way from a island cutoff from the hinterland without an economy. Things look bleak that time but time prove us wrong and us did achieve remarkable success within our country. So being world's first would sort of be a morale booster for us and to tell us that we can make it if we worked hard together to it.

 

Putting social-politics aside. Militarilly we will never be first cos we do not have the market and have not seem conflicts, for that aspect the US will forever be many years away in terms of technology and development. They are bigger, more resources and more importantly, they threat is more real and frightening, all thanks to the cold war and they past conflicts.....

 

Fret not cos we are not alone. Most of the countries besides the US are also decades away from US technology. We may not be first in the world but at least our defence industry is one of the most matured in the region. This one don't need to proclaim openly in the papers cos in defence journals and even jane's, they all know the stuff we have, played the stuff we built and so far they are pretty impressed. Form 3rd world countries, to special forces to regional terrorist, seeing they using our weapons in newspaper clips shows that our stuff we made does have some significances.

 

Don't think the folks in DSTA or other agencies do nothing one, they are more knowledgable than most of us in terms of the latest military technology and happenings. The only drawback is we got no experience in conflicts and war, that is why we rely on countries with vast experience on this field and leverage from their technologies.

 

Whatever the US do/invented....as long as they allow we can do, and we do it cheaper and more cost effective.

 

At least we dun do nonsense s--t like this.

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2679356

[Pocus]

If the enemy is deploying large number of troops along their southern coastline, how do you move a few btn across the straits undetected to fight in their local environment?

 

Even if the SAF troops managed to sneak in, if the tensions are resolved without firing a shot, next, how would you bring back these troops silently.

The troops all bury their weapons and uniforms and surrender as "illegal immigrants" since they move in without passports.

By moving troops in before the first shots are fired, it's almost as good as an act of war already.

 

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Edited June 26, 2012 by Pocus

[Donut]

I can never understand the color combination. They want to camo yet they want to stand out so people can see them.... Any malaysia fireman here? Pls explain why? To hide between flames?

 

yeah, i also been wondering for a very long time why MY fireman also must camo. Fireman camo for what??? they should be as outstanding and as visible as possible so that ppl can spot them in the midst of chaos and emergencies.

 

Very soon, MY will also camo their ambulances and fire trucks.