Unemployment rate for over-30s creeps up

[Kangadrool]

Without this glorified job title, how can this young salesman has the dicknity to talk to his clients whom may be drawing much much higher pay with UFO titles?

 

i had a very young sales guy asking me to meet up few yrs back, he pass me a name card: Regional Sales Manager

 

i jin impressed, so i asked, which region he covers, thinking should be Asean or South Asia.

His reply impressed me even more: Western Singapore. From Tuas Checkpoint to Mandai Industrial Park is his focus region. he has colleagues covering central, northern and eastern Singapore!

 

[Jamesc]

In IT.. Big Data related kind is one example.

The Gov is now actively pushing for training and retraining career switchers.. it's a rather late to wake up now imo, though it's better than sitting and still doing nothing.

 

Companies and businesses will suffer for some time before the skills start to come back into the people.

 

I am not complacent. Its never too late to learn a new skill.

 

Any way one day when I lose my job and cannot find another one

 

I will end up sitting and doing nothing all day but its ok,

 

I will lots of years of practice doing this. 

 

  

[RadX]

Tsk tsk

 

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/ploughing-on-the-faces-and-insecurities-of-singapore-s-elderly-8824490?cid=FBcna

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/why-is-unemployment-rising-3-burning-questions-on-jobs?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&xtor=CS1-10#link_time=1494120307

[Wind30]

Other world leaders do much more work while not being paid millions a year. Were Obama and his predecessors paid millions a year when they were US Presidents?

 

Did he marry for love or did he marry for money

Frankly, your argument has been said a million times over.

 

Do you REALLY HONESTLY think all a USA president get is just his salary. The intangibles the leaders of every country get are so varied that it makes such comparison pointless.

 

Bottomline, everyone ask ourselves is spending those millions worth it ? Are our ministers delivering ? If our ministers have made life better for millions of Singaporeans surely everyone will agree those money is well spent

Edited May 7, 2017 by Wind30

[macrotrust2]

Cutting cost down for the govt- must be top down. How would you expect  the hierarchy to follow suit if he see his boss "spend" money with no accountability. Monkey see Monkey do-

 

Walk the talk and lead by example- starting from the Minister themselves. It is a furtile exercise- to preach to others if they do not follow up by action. Once people get used to the good old day of spending without accountability- how can one expect behaviour to change overnight.

 

Budget is for allocation of resources- if u dont spend come this yr ,next yr it will be reduced- so might as well spend it away-regardless of its utility purpose. 

 

Too many "good" yrs- people get complacent- thinking many good years ahead (with hindsight)- Now no more "revenue" - therefore build more new town in old estate and get more "foreign" import to boost up the income.  Not sure if this is a sustainable biz model- for another 50 yrs.

 

The irony is "foreign" import are  "clever" too. What is it for them. With many tax amnesty from their host country- Tax haven- effective 2018 with OECD to provide cross border tax information. Soon many "foreign" MNC will leave soon with bare skeleton framework.

[Ingenius]

Frankly, your argument has been said a million times over.

 

Do you REALLY HONESTLY think all a USA president get is just his salary. The intangibles the leaders of every country get are so varied that it makes such comparison pointless.

 

Bottomline, everyone ask ourselves is spending those millions worth it ? Are our ministers delivering ? If our ministers have made life better for millions of Singaporeans surely everyone will agree those money is well spent

I have a relative , he is not a business man or entrepreneur, just work for the organisation, and he makes more than few million bucks a year. Of cos he is very capable, as under his leadership his company earns billions of dollars every year. His company creates jobs for thousands of people.

 

The government leaders has a responsibility of creating jobs for millions of people. It is undeniable that vast majority of Singaporeans have jobs. Isn't it clear that a million dollars salary is justified, even paltry by comparison?

 

In other countries like Malaysia, their leaders earn much lesswr, but they plunge their coffers to the tunes of billions. One billion is a thousand million, which is enough to pay one thousand years of a one million dollar salary minister in Singapore.

 

Singapore is a very small country, we do not have a huge population to have many leaders to choose from. That's why good leaders are hard to come by.

 

People who say ministers should not earn a high salary, forgets that even if a person has the heart to serve, he also has his personal aspiration to give his family a good life. So why should they be deprived of his worth. Just in the name of serving ?

 

I knew a friend, he is infamous in Singapore. I know of him as a very righteous and simple man, and he is very passionate in serving the nation. He lost the ge and got embroiled in a murder case in his family. But the thing is, despite his very good character, he is not the smartest,not even remotely close.

 

Just compare ourselves to other countries and try to see how we are doing, and then can see whether it is has been worth it or not.

Edited May 7, 2017 by Ingenius

[Yewheng]

Cutting cost down for the govt- must be top down. How would you expect  the hierarchy to follow suit if he see his boss "spend" money with no accountability. Monkey see Monkey do-

 

Walk the talk and lead by example- starting from the Minister themselves. It is a furtile exercise- to preach to others if they do not follow up by action. Once people get used to the good old day of spending without accountability- how can one expect behaviour to change overnight.

 

Budget is for allocation of resources- if u dont spend come this yr ,next yr it will be reduced- so might as well spend it away-regardless of its utility purpose. 

 

Too many "good" yrs- people get complacent- thinking many good years ahead (with hindsight)- Now no more "revenue" - therefore build more new town in old estate and get more "foreign" import to boost up the income.  Not sure if this is a sustainable biz model- for another 50 yrs.

 

The irony is "foreign" import are  "clever" too. What is it for them. With many tax amnesty from their host country- Tax haven- effective 2018 with OECD to provide cross border tax information. Soon many "foreign" MNC will leave soon with bare skeleton framework.

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Budget is for allocation of resources- if u dont spend come this yr ,next yr it will be reduced- so might as well spend it away-regardless of its utility purpose. 

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​Yes I like your this quote.. this is the mentality of most people working for government, and I feel this mindset should change. If after spending got leftover, they will think of ways to spend finish so that the budget allocation will remain the same and will not reduced. But hey that's very wasteful in terms on the amount spent is/are more then what is needed. In fact, even the seniors commoners encourage people below to spend Finish all and don't give leftover, so we already know there is still a long way to go.

 

​I know this mindset is very difficult to change. What I could come out with is that, if lets say a given budget and they managed to spend less then what is in the budget, reward them. It could be some form of regonication and or voucher or whatever to promote this good mindset and not mindset of government set budget MUST SPEND FINISH no matter what. Oh ya, must also set tone to Senior commoners not to encourage people to spend finish all no matter what. If there is leftover good, if not it's okay. Should start from top too..

Edited May 7, 2017 by Yewheng

[Ingenius]

Actually, when the cs ask for budget,they have to come up with a proposal and explain why they need that amount, and for what purposes. Only if justified then will be approved. Not the other way round where they get the budget first then think of how to spend. That's why there should not be surplus as the budget must be tied to planned expenditure first. Surplus happens because actual expenditure is often lower than planned. For example, open tenders will result in lower than allocated budget.

Edited May 7, 2017 by Ingenius

[Yewheng]

Actually, when the cs ask for budget,they have to come up with a proposal and explain why they need that amount, and for what purposes. Only if justified then will be approved. Not the other way round where they get the budget first then think of how to spend. That's why there should not be surplus as the budget must be tied to planned expenditure first. Surplus happens because actual expenditure is often lower than planned. For example, open tenders will result in lower than allocated budget.

​Well, at least from what I attended my NS, my NS commander said must spend finish all the money set aside for us, dont leftover, if not later next year budget reduce. Deep down my heart, I think... this is not a good mindset.. So you see even commander say this.. what can we expect?

 

**​Maybe for this case, just don't mark down on people who at 1st planned swee swee, but somehow at the end of the day got surplus. From what you say is like saying they will be marked down for lack of planning if approved budget but at the end of the day there is surplus. They should not be marked down for this case.

 

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Edited May 7, 2017 by Yewheng

[Angcheek]

Tsk tsk

 

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/ploughing-on-the-faces-and-insecurities-of-singapore-s-elderly-8824490?cid=FBcna

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/why-is-unemployment-rising-3-burning-questions-on-jobs?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&xtor=CS1-10#link_time=1494120307

 

I think they got the facts wrong .... ah Lee said he will expand his million $ team next year   

[Yewheng]

I think they got the facts wrong .... ah Lee said he will expand his million $ team next year

He did not say expand his team,. He only say there will be big change. Does the big in change include in expending his million $ team next year? We do not know..

[13177]

He did not say expand his team,. He only say there will be big change. Does the big in change include in expending his million $ team next year? We do not know..

Big change? Wonder it will change for a better or even worst? 

Edited May 7, 2017 by 13177

[Yewheng]

Big change? Wonder it will change for a better or even worst? 

​Don't know, how we know what LHL is thinking.. Just hope for the best..

[Still2016]

As jobs dried up, we need to be creative to stand out BUT don't be too outstanding until you become a sore thumb or unbelievable. Good luck to those who currently looking for a job.

[HaoTang]

Employers today are not looking for grasshoppers, neither are they looking for "cho ku ku bian zheng hu" kind of employees.

[Sdf4786k]

Tsk tsk

 

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/ploughing-on-the-faces-and-insecurities-of-singapore-s-elderly-8824490?cid=FBcna

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/why-is-unemployment-rising-3-burning-questions-on-jobs?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&xtor=CS1-10#link_time=1494120307

 

if you look at the first story link, its quite sad because when you need help, they kick in means testing, which end up with a host of problem.

 

I can recall the means testing for kidney patient during the TT days. 

 

What good is building a war chest when the money cannot help those that need it and only when you are in desperate need with the whole family sibling involved.

 

I guess the change to the tweaking is required, not just from a state that is not a "hand out" state , but to a state that has the fair balance of filial piety and family interest at hand. 

 

If you look at the hospital system now with the means testing, you are required to show burden of proof, else you need to stay in a higher ward?

 

If thats the case, then those can afford to drive should also not take public transport ?

 

I sometimes wonder why its still cheaper to drive 1000 km to Malaysia like malacca to buy medication because its way cheaper then in SG. Obviously the equation dont make sense.

 

OT over. Back to unemployment and cheaper, better, faster, safer pay package for local and ....

Edited May 8, 2017 by Sdf4786k

[Wind30]

 

 

I sometimes wonder why its still cheaper to drive 1000 km to Malaysia like malacca to buy medication because its way cheaper then in SG. Obviously the equation dont make sense.

 

OT over. Back to unemployment and cheaper, better, faster, safer pay package for local and ....

 

 

I once joined a live chat with some MPs about rising medical costs and what to do with it. I just ask, what is the biggest component in medical costs and its breakdown in Singapore? and duh.... nobody can answer.... Then start talking about generic drugs etc. But if you press them for factual answers, they don't know. 

 

Basically, its like they did not even know the most basic answer....

[Neost]

I once joined a live chat with some MPs about rising medical costs and what to do with it. I just ask, what is the biggest component in medical costs and its breakdown in Singapore? and duh.... nobody can answer.... Then start talking about generic drugs etc. But if you press them for factual answers, they don't know. 

 

Basically, its like they did not even know the most basic answer....

 

later they asked you back " What do you think?" then you know!!!