"My Grandfather Road" markings identified as vandal, woman a

[Vroomtattat]

actually ah long kenna misunderstood liao.

 

pig head because they scare their lender no enough money to eat. so hang one for them to cook

 

Na na you

[KARTer]

It looks like public opinions are divided on this. Since the roads are public properties, and she didnt paint 100% of all the roads, maybe she and her supported can be allowed to do it "proportionally" ie if 10% of the public supports her, she and her supporters can be allowed to paint 10%, or even 1% of the roads we have? Of course, the "paintings" must be in good taste and do not compromise safety etc.

[Sosaria]

I think the punishment should not be too harsh as, after all, what we should ask ourselves is: did she hurt or harm anyone with her acts? People who've caused harm to others can often get away with less punishment or totally unpunished.

 

Maybe just impose a fine and community service to join the cleaners to clean up her mess on the roads. Would be fair enough. Maybe she did not fully realize how tough it is to clean up her "art pieces" so it's good to educate her a bit.

Edited June 7, 2012 by Sosaria

[Joseph22]

i thought nowadays prepaid card also need to register nric number/passport number?

iszi??? i long time didnt used Prepaid card liao

[Joseph22]

Don't understand why got so many people wanna petition for her in the name of ART ? I guess the stickers are pretty harmless, it's the spray paint on the roads that got her !

 

Com'on, if I spray a damn nice picture on your car, would you thank me for the 'nice' art ? Whether it's private or public property, it's still not HER property.

 

Since Janice Koh (NMP) supports her, maybe sticker lady can do a demo on HER property and see what she says then.

They are not petitioning for the Art lah. more like Petition against PAP nia.

 

anyway they so support arts but dont support building of old folk home

[WTF]

iszi??? i long time didnt used Prepaid card liao

After all the terrorist incidents, they wanna to track all registered users.......

[Hephaestus]

spray street art with political overtones, confirm must lock long long

[Joseph22]

After all the terrorist incidents, they wanna to track all registered users.......

oh....

 

anyway i think its still possible to pay those FW money to get the card for you under their registration bah.

[Mllcg]

what my teacher posted on his FB.

 

With regards to the on-going graffiti vs artistic expression saga, just thinking aloud on 3 points:

 

ONE: Those who have signed the online petition to support Ms Samantha Lo; those who have been lambasting the authorities for being heavy-handed, and those who support the idea of graffiti as an expression of creativity and art - would you have shown the same support for Oliver Fricker, the Swiss na...tional who spray-painted the MRT trains (for the sake of this argument, let's assume that he did not break into the SMRT train depot; let's say he stood on a station platform and created his work of art while the train was stationary)?

 

Something for us to think about -

Firstly, if Ms Lo's was creative expression, what was Mr Fricker's?

Secondly, if we complimented the authorities for acting swiftly and firmly to take Mr Fricker to task, is it fair that we should in the same breath criticise them for being mean and nasty towards Ms Lo? Are we asking the authorities to be biased; to apply the law unevenly?

Thirdly, if Ms Lo's rendering is artistic expression, do I then have your collective approval to go to the void deck now to express my artistic talent?

 

TWO: Also, am wondering if it might just be possible that many aren't really up in arms out of support for the arts, but are merely grabbing hold of any issue to throw a punch at the authorities/government/PAP whatever? I wonder if the police adopted a more forgiving attitude towards Ms Lo, would there have been a similar uproar, but of a different nature.

 

THREE:

Have we considered the consequences of showing support for and approval of graffiti throughout our public places? Are we prepared to live with the costs?

 

 

[Genie47]

Most people are missing the point. I believe the artist wanted to be arrested. She even has a website with pictures of all the "vandalism", so the act of arrest becomes part of her art. And for most people, you know art is not just about painting something, and admire it at home. It needs to convey a message or people to discuss it, like you release a pop song you also want to be #1 on the chart. It seems she is being quite successful now in getting people to discuss it, debate it. Whether she is jailed or not, she has already achieved her goal. The more people debate it, the more successful she is.

 

If it doesn't move or stir your heart. It is not art.

[Jman888]

what my teacher posted on his FB.

 

With regards to the on-going graffiti vs artistic expression saga, just thinking aloud on 3 points:

 

ONE: Those who have signed the online petition to support Ms Samantha Lo; those who have been lambasting the authorities for being heavy-handed, and those who support the idea of graffiti as an expression of creativity and art - would you have shown the same support for Oliver Fricker, the Swiss na...tional who spray-painted the MRT trains (for the sake of this argument, let's assume that he did not break into the SMRT train depot; let's say he stood on a station platform and created his work of art while the train was stationary)?

 

Something for us to think about -

Firstly, if Ms Lo's was creative expression, what was Mr Fricker's?

Secondly, if we complimented the authorities for acting swiftly and firmly to take Mr Fricker to task, is it fair that we should in the same breath criticise them for being mean and nasty towards Ms Lo? Are we asking the authorities to be biased; to apply the law unevenly?

Thirdly, if Ms Lo's rendering is artistic expression, do I then have your collective approval to go to the void deck now to express my artistic talent?

 

TWO: Also, am wondering if it might just be possible that many aren't really up in arms out of support for the arts, but are merely grabbing hold of any issue to throw a punch at the authorities/government/PAP whatever? I wonder if the police adopted a more forgiving attitude towards Ms Lo, would there have been a similar uproar, but of a different nature.

 

THREE:

Have we considered the consequences of showing support for and approval of graffiti throughout our public places? Are we prepared to live with the costs?

 

 

I agree with 1 & 2.

 

for point 3, i did suggest that if the artist or the organisation supporting the artist willing to pay for the damages and cleaning up 'artwork' after a certain period, maybe it is workable.

 

creativity need to break boundary and law, a bit of controversial to make an impact, however, the artist also need to be prepared for the consequences.

 

[Sosaria]

If it doesn't move or stir your heart. It is not art.

 

I know some people won't agree... but I think ART should be something that needs rare skill, years of practice and refinement, and not easily reproducible. It's something that needs to be learnt from a "master" or "expert", so to speak.

 

Or maybe I'm confining myself to fine art??

 

Anyway, pasting stickers and spray-painting stenciled words is not art, IMHO, because anybody - yes, even my primary school kid - can do it.

[Joseph22]

I know some people won't agree... but I think ART should be something that needs rare skill, years of practice and refinement, and not easily reproducible. It's something that needs to be learnt from a "master" or "expert", so to speak.

 

Or maybe I'm confining myself to fine art??

 

Anyway, pasting stickers and spray-painting stenciled words is not art, IMHO, because anybody - yes, even my primary school kid - can do it.

what you say is right.

 

using template to spray Grandfather road is not an art. its just vandalism..

 

designing sticker is also not really art especially when the sticker are only word.

 

the MRT painting though i called that art. and i hope MRT are like that always.

[LoverofCar]

what you say is right.

 

using template to spray Grandfather road is not an art. its just vandalism..

 

designing sticker is also not really art especially when the sticker are only word.

 

the MRT painting though i called that art. and i hope MRT are like that always.

 

If she can sketch a drawing of old man....on the building or the road...and with the statement.....my grandfather bla bla bla......that's art!!

[KARTer]

I know some people won't agree... but I think ART should be something that needs rare skill, years of practice and refinement, and not easily reproducible. It's something that needs to be learnt from a "master" or "expert", so to speak.

 

Or maybe I'm confining myself to fine art??

 

Anyway, pasting stickers and spray-painting stenciled words is not art, IMHO, because anybody - yes, even my primary school kid - can do it.

Kiddy art, or adult art are both art. IMH customers also can produce art

 

There may be artistic sheeiit also.

[Hotamp]

 

want to draw at least got this type of standard mah....anyhow spray paint on the road dare to call " Art". :angry:

 

Those who support her " Art" should have their eyes examined.

[Toothiewabbit]

what my teacher posted on his FB.

 

With regards to the on-going graffiti vs artistic expression saga, just thinking aloud on 3 points:

 

ONE: Those who have signed the online petition to support Ms Samantha Lo; those who have been lambasting the authorities for being heavy-handed, and those who support the idea of graffiti as an expression of creativity and art - would you have shown the same support for Oliver Fricker, the Swiss na...tional who spray-painted the MRT trains (for the sake of this argument, let's assume that he did not break into the SMRT train depot; let's say he stood on a station platform and created his work of art while the train was stationary)?

 

Something for us to think about -

Firstly, if Ms Lo's was creative expression, what was Mr Fricker's?

Secondly, if we complimented the authorities for acting swiftly and firmly to take Mr Fricker to task, is it fair that we should in the same breath criticise them for being mean and nasty towards Ms Lo? Are we asking the authorities to be biased; to apply the law unevenly?

Thirdly, if Ms Lo's rendering is artistic expression, do I then have your collective approval to go to the void deck now to express my artistic talent?

 

TWO: Also, am wondering if it might just be possible that many aren't really up in arms out of support for the arts, but are merely grabbing hold of any issue to throw a punch at the authorities/government/PAP whatever? I wonder if the police adopted a more forgiving attitude towards Ms Lo, would there have been a similar uproar, but of a different nature.

 

THREE:

Have we considered the consequences of showing support for and approval of graffiti throughout our public places? Are we prepared to live with the costs?

Agree with point 1 and 3.

 

Part of the uproar comes from the arts community that has its rationale in showing support for Ms Lo. Her expression of art, like all art forms, has invited both positive and negative responses, appreciated or derided by many in this thread. This what unauthorised art in public places would evoke - spirited public responses.

 

 

[Joseph22]

That's why art is called art, and not science. It's subjective and may differ from people to people. Should a painting be so realistic that its almost as good as a photograph ? Is that art ? How is it when the painting doesn't look like anything in reality ? Is that art ? If you can define it so simply in black and white, it's probably not art. Won't be surprised if some primary school kids are more gifted in art than an old man, with their untainted imagination and less boundaries imposed on them by society (yet).

so you are saying that spraying letter on the road with template is consider huh??