Tigerwoods Turbocharged May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 7:48 AM, Damienic said: But can see that these days lift upgrading and estate renewal works is not so much the top priority for citizens anymore. Many people are angry with the immigration policies, high cost of living, smrt frequent breakdowns and etc etc. If these issues aren't adequately addressed in time, they may still not get the votes even if they go on full momentum with various upgrading and estate renewal work. that is why WP harp only on national issues and not local issues and PxP harp on character and local issues and not national issues because they can't win as its a fact. They repeat and repeat they will do their best in a thousand and 1 ways to expand on it. actually I can safely say, 60% are more me myself and I types and 40% is we ourselves and they. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 7:40 AM, Kangadrool said: GRC is a double-edge sword, slowly but surely. There's a possibility that more SMCs will be carved out from existing GRCs in 2016, especially those estates with more new citizens - example Pioneer was carved out from WC GRC in 2011. I think the MIW is starting to feel that GRC system which served them so well can be a double edge sword soon. Starting from 2011 GE, they have reduced the number of 6 member GRCs into 5, and some 5 member GRCs have become 4. I believe they will start to carve out more SMCs which they are confident of capturing from GRCs soon. But even then, there is no foolproof way to do so anymore. They allowed Joo Chiat SMC to remain as a SMC for 2011 GE, as the incumbents there have always enjoy good support of 60-70%. I think never in their imagination did they expect that the vote swing of JC in 2011 is so great that they almost lost it despite it being supposedly safe SMC for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 7:51 AM, Calvin79 said: ok la... i speak only from my POV... cause many of my friends who stays HG have gotten flats in Punggol... hence high chance many new voters will be in punggol come 2016... that itself is scary for PxP as they must be thinking who these new voters will vote for... They always play around with Punggol residents. This is because many residents there came from the now defunct Cheng San GRC of which the WP traditionally enjoyed good support. To break up the influence of these voters, Punggol residents are segregated into AMK GRC, Pasir Ris Punggol GRC and Punggol East SMC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_nice 6th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 i shake my head when i passed by certain parts of hougang wif AMK GRC flag planted there.. i mean..hougang and amk?? WTF?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_nice 6th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 seriously hopping for the day LTK can lead a army to jurong grc..u'll haf my support! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin79 2nd Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 8:04 AM, So_nice said: seriously hopping for the day LTK can lead a army to jurong grc..u'll haf my support! Jurong and the west it appears is the strong hold for PxP... so far results in the west have never had much concerns for PxP.... hopefully by 2016 they get the Hougang spirits into them... hahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtong 1st Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 8:02 AM, So_nice said: i shake my head when i passed by certain parts of hougang wif AMK GRC flag planted there.. i mean..hougang and amk?? WTF?? Parts of Serangoon is under Marine Parade. Beat that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 8:12 AM, Ahtong said: Parts of Serangoon is under Marine Parade. Beat that I think one of the most ridiculous is that part of Commonwealth is under Tanjong Pagar GRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear May 28, 2012 Author Share May 28, 2012 aljunied fallen. hougang fallen. based on 2011, next 2 to go will most prob be joochiat SMC east coast GRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtong 1st Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 8:23 AM, Damienic said: I think one of the most ridiculous is that part of Commonwealth is under Tanjong Pagar GRC. Look at the electoral boundaries HERE I feel the east side GRCs are the most retarded. Very little of Marine Parade is really Marine Parade. Aljunied is not in Aljunied (based on Road and MRT). Kallang is not really Kallang either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 (edited) On 5/28/2012 at 8:07 AM, Calvin79 said: Jurong and the west it appears is the strong hold for PxP... so far results in the west have never had much concerns for PxP.... hopefully by 2016 they get the Hougang spirits into them... hahaha Maybe in the future you have North and South EAST and WEST Singapore... Edited May 28, 2012 by Tigerwoods Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 8:29 AM, Ahtong said: Look at the electoral boundaries HERE I feel the east side GRCs are the most retarded. Very little of Marine Parade is really Marine Parade. Aljunied is not in Aljunied (based on Road and MRT). Kallang is not really Kallang either. soon Tampines is part of AMK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 8:26 AM, Mllcg said: aljunied fallen. hougang fallen. based on 2011, next 2 to go will most prob be joochiat SMC east coast GRC What are the reasons for Joochiat ? I know the reason for East Coast is bcz of Zorro ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverofCar 6th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 7:34 AM, Damienic said: Actually these days the % of support which the PAP enjoys in GRCs have also been dwindling quite badly such that the absorption of "risky" SMCs into GRCs may not exactly be an entirely foolproof way, except probably for a few of them such as Pasir Ris Punggol, AMK, Tanjong Pagar. PAP garnered just 56%++ in Toa Payoh-Bishan in 2011. If Patong Pasir is absorbed in there, it can be a little risky for them too. Imagine if TPY-B GRC suffers say another 3-4% vote swing to opposition and the residents of PP is unhappy with Sitoh and there is another 3-4% swing in votes there, it could actually result in PAP losing the whole TPY-B GRC inclusive of PP. The entire east and north east isn't very safe for PAP except Pasir Ris-Punggol. JBJ is right.....he said the only way to break their GRC strategy is to win one they will feel the pain....JBJ is one with great foresight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverofCar 6th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 (edited) On 5/28/2012 at 8:33 AM, Tigerwoods said: What are the reasons for Joochiat ? I know the reason for East Coast is bcz of Zorro ? frankly...Joochiat all are mostly private housing so they don't really care what upgrading thing....they not happy with gahment...they will vote for opposition...like it will absort into Marine parade soon.... Edited May 28, 2012 by LoverofCar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverofCar 6th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 8:32 AM, Tigerwoods said: soon Tampines is part of AMK they should put all in AMK GRC....so voters just need one choice...want the current gahment or not...just vote yes or no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 On 5/28/2012 at 8:40 AM, LoverofCar said: frankly...Joochiat all are mostly private housing so they really care what upgrading thing....they not happen with gahment...they will vote for opposition...like it will absort into Marine parade soon.... What about your views of East Coast ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverofCar 6th Gear May 28, 2012 Share May 28, 2012 (edited) On 5/28/2012 at 8:51 AM, Tigerwoods said: What about your views of East Coast ? sorry bro...many typo in my last post...I mean JC don't really care about what upgrading since they are mostly private housing...For east coast...last GE head by zoro Lim and I don't think he is that popular..all the rubbish came out from him during the last GE.......unless they move someone there......with WP brand name...it will be a good show in 2016.... Edited May 28, 2012 by LoverofCar ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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