Royho1979 Clutched May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 Background. I was involved in an incident yesterday. A car, Honda Accord cut into a single lane entry in front of me into PIE entrance towards Jurong. He cut in really late and by the time he made his move he had passed the white road separator. I drove defensively, braked, let him pass, honked at him and raised my arms in protest. The driver then went berserk and jammed brake in front of me. I crashed into him and a Van crashed into me. THe crashed happened after 20 metres of the entrance, so I had already let him into the entry and was not being a jerk. He intended the accident and the accident happened. The lucky thing is: the vehicle behind me is not a motorcyclist or there could be mortality. Could anyone advise how I can prove his intent without video recording? The Van driver behind me witness the incident and is willing to be my witness. Is he a strong witness? Facts. 1) The dent in front of my car is far far worse than behind. From a physics POV, it could discount the possibility that it was the car behind crashing into me that caused my car to ram into the Honda Accord. 2) I really want this guy to suffer for his deeds. 3) Prior to the incident, the guy cut dangerously into my lane (left most) outside Changi Hospital I let him passed but gave him a short honk because he cut in too close too fast and there were a cyclist in front of him in the lane he is cutting in. That may have upset him, but I stayed in my lane while he cut into the right lane. 4) As a result, because he is a serial lane cutter, he realized he is in the wrong lane and cut in dangerously that led to the whole event. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 (edited) dun see any way out of this unless the van driver is taken as a credible witness just rem.. look for cameras around the lamp posts... Edited May 21, 2012 by Galantspeedz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royho1979 Clutched May 21, 2012 Author Share May 21, 2012 dun see any way out of this unless the van driver is taken as a credible witness just rem.. look for cameras around the lamp posts... I see the value in investing in a video recorder now. There are really such idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy 4th Gear May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 dun see any way out of this unless the van driver is taken as a credible witness just rem.. look for cameras around the lamp posts... will LTA provide video footages if the cameras indeed captured the entire sequence of events? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Turbocharged May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 I see the value in investing in a video recorder now. There are really such idiots. video recorder is a must have nowadays. i feel quite uncomfortable driving without a video recorder ever since i install one. hope your case turn out well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohdj Neutral Newbie May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 hard to prove it unless you got witnesses who are not involved in the accident...this means that the van driver's testimony is weakened. buy a car camera to protect yourself for the next accident. and i am not surprised that a honda driver did this! and i really have to say this..."It's a Honda!"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Civic6228 6th Gear May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 TS, not for bad for u lah ... just claim from the Van that hit you at the rear .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 will LTA provide video footages if the cameras indeed captured the entire sequence of events? you may need to get a court order i guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royho1979 Clutched May 21, 2012 Author Share May 21, 2012 TS, not for bad for u lah ... just claim from the Van that hit you at the rear .... I know I can... but I cannot rest until I am sure there is no way to make the person at fault pay. But it seems there isnt any way right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy 4th Gear May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 I know I can... but I cannot rest until I am sure there is no way to make the person at fault pay. But it seems there isnt any way right now. did u exchange particulars with the honda driver? what did he say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy 4th Gear May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 you may need to get a court order i guess theni think its quite difficult/expensive - need to get a lawyer to start a legal proceedings. i doubt insurance company will want to do this as it might add on to their costs and the insured driver is now the person who rearended the honda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 theni think its quite difficult/expensive - need to get a lawyer to start a legal proceedings. i doubt insurance company will want to do this as it might add on to their costs and the insured driver is now the person who rearended the honda. agree,, especially since there is a van behind to claim liability from.... so have to see how much the TS want to bring the driver to justice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count-Bracula Twincharged May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 agree,, especially since there is a van behind to claim liability from.... so have to see how much the TS want to bring the driver to justice Not worth, very costly to fight in court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurty Supercharged May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 TS, sound like you really meet a real time road bully. well, gather all the witness you could, be it van's or passerbys', although i feel the chances are slim.. invest in a DVR in due future. wishing you well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royho1979 Clutched May 21, 2012 Author Share May 21, 2012 did u exchange particulars with the honda driver? what did he say? That guy was an absolute jerk! He came out shouting saying why I kept honking and gestured at him, as if that gave him the right to jam brake in the middle of a single lane traffic. I tried to explaining but he wouldn't let a word in. I see no point arguing with him. Luckily the Van driver is a reasonable guy after a few attempts at reasoning he gave up, exchanged knowing glances with me while we proceed with the exchange of info for claims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 was that guy trying to cut queue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 just get a old handphone to video lor..... i am doing that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged May 21, 2012 Share May 21, 2012 Did the police come? maybe if they question him about the accident (really question him, not just ask for a written statement) he might say something stupid? At the least, wouldn't he need to explain why he stopped there? Although can stop for whatever reason or make something up - that doesn't mean it was convincing when he told the TP, maybe he didn't think fast enough, or is a bad liar or whatever. If there is a strong indication that he deliberatly jammed brakes then you might be able to get some satisfaction. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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