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HDB flat sizes not shrinking: Khaw Boon Wan [Take Poll]

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HDB flats have been the same size for the past 15 years  

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  1. 1. HDB flats have been the same size for the past 15 years

    • Yes. Same for the past 15 years
      16
    • No. Shrunk for the past 15 years
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KARTer

KARTer

2nd Gear
  On 5/2/2012 at 3:49 PM, Unidentified said:

whoever said that HDB sizes did not shrink compared to those built in the 90s or earlier is telling a plain lie and deserved to be shot in the head.

pls dont shoot the wrong person... the one in your pic has a different hair style :o

 

btw, its mr horse or his predecesor who did the donw-size, not ah khaw :D

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KARTer

KARTer

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  On 5/2/2012 at 3:26 PM, Acemundo said:

let me help our minstry find a lame excuse.

 

no, it is not because hdb flat got smaller. it is because singaporeans grew bigger after having better nutrition and leading a good life

hdb may well be eyeing apartment sizes in HK or Japan, since pple there are surviving well in such small apartments, hdb feels "why not" adopt the same sizes here? wait and see.... :o

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Without_a_car

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  On 5/2/2012 at 4:34 PM, KARTer said:

hdb may well be eyeing apartment sizes in HK or Japan, since pple there are surviving well in such small apartments, hdb feels "why not" adopt the same sizes here? wait and see.... :o

 

hope they built them soon...

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Kelloggs

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The responses from some ministers these days is telling me to replace them with fresh blood, even if they are inexperienced or less Ivy league-qualified ones from the Oppo camps.

They really need to explore Cabinet representation to be reflective of the parliament ratio.when can we have this

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KARTer

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  On 5/2/2012 at 4:36 PM, Without_a_car said:

hope they built them soon...

OMG!!! :o

 

HK streets and shopping malls are crowded becoz pple find these places are more spacious than their home [:(] .... so they only go home to sleep, but spend non-sleeping time outside their home as much as possible

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Without_a_car

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  On 5/2/2012 at 4:41 PM, KARTer said:

OMG!!! :o

 

HK streets and shopping malls are crowded becoz pple find these places are more spacious than their home [:(] .... so they only go home to sleep, but spend non-sleeping time outside their home as much as possible

 

this might be the straw that broke the camel's back...

please built HK size apartments...

 

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KARTer

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  On 5/2/2012 at 4:58 PM, Without_a_car said:

this might be the straw that broke the camel's back...

please built HK size apartments...

when we have HK size flats, CapitalLand / KeppelLand will build more mega malls..... pple will crowd the trains / stations etc to stay away from the small flats

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Antlau

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  On 5/2/2012 at 4:24 PM, KARTer said:

our rulers have multiplied the island:- now we have two worlds on the island -----> one for the rich, the other for the not-rich [:)] maybe a third one coming up soon?

 

The Rich, The Not-Rich-But-Damn-Squeezed, and The Poor-With-Nothing-To-Squeeze-Liao...

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Without_a_car

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area remain unchanged, the same can't be said for prices

 

HDB prices in 2004

 

3rm 90k

4rm 120k

5rm 160k

EM 280k

 

HDB prices in 2012

2rm 100k

3rm 160k

4rm 300k

5rm 380k

EC 750k

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Scb11980

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there is a question of being trusted by singaporeans at large

when so many openly question what he had said

 

they way they selectively choose what to quote and leave out and what to compare

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Renegade777

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  On 5/2/2012 at 4:22 PM, Roh96 said:

10 yrs ago when i first apply for a flat 5rm already 110sqm, 4 rm already 90sqm. So actually KBW is right, HDB didn't shrink the size of HDB flat. Still the same size till today. Maybe the layout has changed over time and it look and feel smaller with balcony and such.

 

Last time 5 rooms flats have big balcony. Now don't think flats have balcony leow.

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Yaloryalor

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  On 5/2/2012 at 3:33 PM, Without_a_car said:

technically KBW is not wrong

 

70s 4 room 92 sqm

80s 4 room 103 sqm

90s 4 room 115 sqm (early 90s;post 98 start building 90 sqm 4 room)

00s 4 room 90 sqm

 

Not forgetting that last time

 

3 room got 3I, 3S,

4 room got 4S, 4A

 

If I not wrong, the 4A (~ 109sqm) is about the just few sqm smaller than the new 5 room (110 sqm).

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Lala81

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  On 5/2/2012 at 4:22 PM, Roh96 said:

10 yrs ago when i first apply for a flat 5rm already 110sqm, 4 rm already 90sqm. So actually KBW is right, HDB didn't shrink the size of HDB flat. Still the same size till today. Maybe the layout has changed over time and it look and feel smaller with balcony and such.

 

Actually most flats nowadays have no balcony.

 

Theoretically my upcoming 110sqm piegon hole (113 with AC ledge) should be quite close to my paternal home of 124 sqm excluding the balcony, but somehow i still think it will feel small haha [laugh]

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Sosaria

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  On 5/3/2012 at 12:46 AM, Watwheels said:

It's not shrinking lah. Ppl are eating too much good food and gaining excess weight. :D

 

And that's because the ECONOMY IS GOOD! ... What is everyone complaining about?? [laugh]

 

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Lala81

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  On 5/2/2012 at 4:23 PM, Happily1986 said:

bigger units possibly but prices also bigger if anything goes with this current lowest bidder win system, coupled to market valuation of state land.

 

Is this what we really want then? okay then the flat GFA will be increased. how about the overall purchase price of the flat? Are we really unsettled by the sizing itself? I think we are bothered by the fact that we are paying for increasingly expensive flats which are getting smaller progressively. I am worried by the way Khaw is playing this game. He seems to be shaping the whole issue to centre around the complaint that the flats are too small rather than the flats are too small and too expensive to be considered realistically affordable. That way, he will be able to get away with simply increasing the purchase price of the flats to compensate for the increased GFA we so called wanted.

 

Yes that's what he's doing

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Carbon82

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Picture tells a thousand words...

 

A typical 4 room flat in 1998 - 2000 (area: 100m2)

HDB-1998-4A-100sqm.png

 

A typical 5 room flat in 1998 - 2000 (area: 120m2)

HDB-1998-5I-120sqm.png

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