Does the Authority have to go till this extent, seriously???

[Bystander50]

Now they even go MSCP............

 

Nothing new, always looking for the easy way out to catch offenders.

 

I don't see them having any success or strict enforcements on speeding lorries or vans.

 

 

[Nzy]

I dont think fire hazard is the reason. Cause if you install rainbow lights, LEDs, HIDs WITHIN the vehile shining inside and not outside, they dont bother cause it doesnt glare others..

But still they can be fire hazards..

 

Its illegal to have those LEDs inside also. Seen a car at the workshop uninstalling the LEDs at his door area and foot well. Heard that its because got summon and need to remove. But his was those kind where the whole car inside can see lit up with LEDs. Normally won't get caught cuz its hard for them to check also.

Edited May 3, 2012 by Nzy

[AlanZ]

Its illegal to have those LEDs inside also. Seen a car at the workshop uninstalling the LEDs at his door area and foot well. Heard that its because got summon and need to remove. But his was those kind where the whole car inside can see lit up with LEDs. Normally won't get caught cuz its hard for them to check also.

 

I may be wrong.. but then again LTA emphasize on :

Decorative lamp

Fitting decorative lamps to vehicles are not allowed as they may cause confusion and distraction to other road users.

Spot lamp

The light beam projected from a spot lamp is more focused as compared to the diffused pattern of a fog lamp. Use of these spot lamps are not allowed because they may cause glare and distraction to other road users in an urbanised environment.

 

HID

The use of HID headlamps/whiter headlamp bulbs is a technological trend in the automotive industry. The Land Transport Authority (LTA) has allowed HID headlamps to be fitted on vehicles because such headlamps have been used worldwide and they are purpose-built by vehicle manufacturers to ensure that they are safe. Like other headlamps, HID headlamps must comply with the relevant safety standards and be properly installed and aligned.

 

HID headlamps are more energy efficient and can improve the visibility of drivers as compared with standard halogen lamps. A motorist using a HID lamp system is able to see up to 100 metres to the front of the vehicle, compared to about 58 metres with standard halogen lighting.

With the increasing trend on the use of HID headlamps, there has been feedback from motorists that such headlamps are brighter and tend to cause glare. In an attempt to reduce the propensity of glare caused by HID headlamps to other road users, some vehicle manufacturers have incorporated an auto-levelling feature, which automatically adjusts the headlamp angle and direction based on road and driving conditions.

 

With effect from 1 January 2010, LTA will require all newly registered vehicles, except motorcycles, fitted with HID headlamps to be equipped with an auto-levelling feature.

 

Since they have a guideline, why cannot ask for vehicle fitted with aftermarket HID to send to inspection center to clear that they comply with the standards?

The way they wrote it, so long as aligned properly, with correct voltage, it should do more good than harm. Since its also more energy efficient

[Happily1986]

Since they have a guideline, why cannot ask for vehicle fitted with aftermarket HID to send to inspection center to clear that they comply with the standards?

The way they wrote it, so long as aligned properly, with correct voltage, it should do more good than harm. Since its also more energy efficient

 

Assume we adopt your approach and everyone get certified. Now picture this, someone's vehicle got burned beyond recognition possibly due to the electrical wiring issues and insurers refuse to honour since it is aftermarket modifications. Owner write in citing that LTA already certify okay.

 

What do you make of this messy situation?

 

Also on the issue of certification, since compliance undoubtedly encompass wiring standards and quality adherence, does this somehow make LTA partly responsible? if you fail the test, you without doubt will ditch the setup or rewire it. If you pass the certification test, you will naturally carry on. Therefore because LTA say approve, you maintain the aftermarket setup and configuration as it is and later on it was pointed out that the system was the cause of fire. So how?

Edited May 3, 2012 by Happily1986

[Mllcg]

Assume we adopt your approach and everyone get certified. Now picture this, someone's vehicle got burned beyond recognition possibly due to the electrical wiring issues and insurers refuse to honour since it is aftermarket modifications. Owner write in citing that LTA already certify okay.

 

What do you make of this messy situation?

 

Also on the issue of certification, since compliance undoubtedly encompass wiring standards and quality adherence, does this somehow make LTA partly responsible? if you fail the test, you without doubt will ditch the setup or rewire it. If you pass the certification test, you will naturally carry on. Therefore because LTA say approve, you maintain the aftermarket setup and configuration as it is and later on it was pointed out that the system was the cause of fire. So how?

 

how many cars have actually caught fire due to electric problems?

 

mostly i see its either petrol leak or engine problem

[Jolie888]

Similar encounter this afternoon. At a traffic junction A lancer shone his aftermarket lights from behind and stopped next to me. Kept blowing his exhaust next to me. Maybe also trying to tell me he got turbo inside his car. Driver was looking at other drivers next to him, left and right.

 

When the lights turn green, I just went off.....Within seconds, he was a few car lengths behind me. Mine no HID. No big exhaust but I got a small turbo.

Got a number of Golf TSIs and Rocs do same to me ... and like you, I just went off and they in my rear view mirror in no time! Mine got no big exhausts (but got 2) and neither have I got any turbo

[AlanZ]

Assume we adopt your approach and everyone get certified. Now picture this, someone's vehicle got burned beyond recognition possibly due to the electrical wiring issues and insurers refuse to honour since it is aftermarket modifications. Owner write in citing that LTA already certify okay.

 

What do you make of this messy situation?

 

Also on the issue of certification, since compliance undoubtedly encompass wiring standards and quality adherence, does this somehow make LTA partly responsible? if you fail the test, you without doubt will ditch the setup or rewire it. If you pass the certification test, you will naturally carry on. Therefore because LTA say approve, you maintain the aftermarket setup and configuration as it is and later on it was pointed out that the system was the cause of fire. So how?

 

Agree to a certain extend but disagree some points too.

Do note that I am only voicing out but do not meant to be argumentative.

 

In ur point for insurance claims, LTA provides certain or approved aftermarket exhaust but that does not mean all insurers have to insure them too.

Some insurers do not insure at all once your vehicle is found to be modded from its original parts. The same rule can still be applied.

N y did LTA requires headlights to be 4300k or lower? Due to fire hazards or due to visibility under fogged or rain conditions n glares? I presume it's the latter?

We can go on n on but end of the day, there will b 2 schools of ppl, each feeling their point is right.

I believe there is always pros n cons whether they want to legalize it or not

[Happily1986]

how many cars have actually caught fire due to electric problems?

 

mostly i see its either petrol leak or engine problem

 

I don't think i would want to risk my backside for such legal discrepancies as an organisation because statistical evidence prove otherwise.

 

Rules and regulations are formulated based on principles, not on the basis of statistical occurrences.

[Happily1986]

Got a number of Golf TSIs and Rocs do same to me ... and like you, I just went off and they in my rear view mirror in no time! Mine got no big exhausts (but got 2) and neither have I got any turbo

 

You kidding me? Unless they are on stage 3, how to fight against the fat torque of C300?

[Flyguy63]

They will do enforcement if they receive a complain.Obviously someone did.As far as I know,they do not conduct random checks.

[Happily1986]

Agree to a certain extend but disagree some points too.

Do note that I am only voicing out but do not meant to be argumentative.

 

In ur point for insurance claims, LTA provides certain or approved aftermarket exhaust but that does not mean all insurers have to insure them too.

Some insurers do not insure at all once your vehicle is found to be modded from its original parts. The same rule can still be applied.

N y did LTA requires headlights to be 4300k or lower? Due to fire hazards or due to visibility under fogged or rain conditions n glares? I presume it's the latter?

We can go on n on but end of the day, there will b 2 schools of ppl, each feeling their point is right.

I believe there is always pros n cons whether they want to legalize it or not

 

Point noted and acknowledged. This is a controversial and debatable point to be honest. As the de facto organisation with the final say on motoring matters plus LTA's strict safety culture, one wouldn't be faulted if he or she would to think that LTA compliance implies all systems go.

 

Some insurers outright revokes cover and cite indemnity clause(s) which are highly open to interpretation. Does having modifications necessary mean that the vehicular handling characteristics are affected in a visible manner? How about those modifications that are done in accordance and within a band of acceptable specifications laid down by the original vehicle manufacturer. if Toyota say it is okay and perfectly fine, who are these insurers to say no way, vehicle handling characteristics has been altered?

 

The higher the perceived colour temperature of the headlamps, the more bluish the hue of the light appears to be. You want a lower i.e. warmer color temperature because warmer light tends to have a better throw and is less prone to scattering during adverse rainy conditions. This color temperature requirement is a practical decision which has safety as an utmost consideration.