WML888 2nd Gear April 24, 2012 Share April 24, 2012 I noticed there are 2 different types of engine block design for E200ML : 1) One with a stainless steel bar across the engine block (printed with Mercedes) 2) The other type has NO stainless steel bar across the engine block (just the Logo close to the engine oil inlet) Anyone know the difference ? ie : Any horsepower difference ? Or one is newer than the other ? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WML888 2nd Gear April 24, 2012 Author Share April 24, 2012 On 4/24/2012 at 4:54 AM, WML888 said: I noticed there are 2 different types of engine block design for E200ML : 1) One with a stainless steel bar across the engine block (printed with Mercedes) 2) The other type has NO stainless steel bar across the engine block (just the Logo close to the engine oil inlet) Anyone know the difference ? ie : Any horsepower difference ? Or one is newer than the other ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckcent 4th Gear April 24, 2012 Share April 24, 2012 1 is the older model the pre fl and the other is the E 200k. The pre fl model called E 200 ML is 163 BHP and the fl E200k is 184 BHP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WML888 2nd Gear April 24, 2012 Author Share April 24, 2012 On 4/24/2012 at 5:57 AM, Luckcent said: 1 is the older model the pre fl and the other is the E 200k. The pre fl model called E 200 ML is 163 BHP and the fl E200k is 184 BHP. Thanks Bro. I asked, because I owned a pre-FL May'06 E200ML, engine block is Type 2 (rated 184hp), car from authorized distributor. Therefore, I concluded that pre-FL E200ML came with 2 different engine power ratings. The last batch pre-FL E200ML comes with 184hp. Lets see what other findings from other members. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leech Clutched May 5, 2012 Share May 5, 2012 On 4/24/2012 at 6:20 AM, WML888 said: Thanks Bro. I asked, because I owned a pre-FL May'06 E200ML, engine block is Type 2 (rated 184hp), car from authorized distributor. Therefore, I concluded that pre-FL E200ML came with 2 different engine power ratings. The last batch pre-FL E200ML comes with 184hp. Lets see what other findings from other members. Bro, how's your merc? There's a E200ML at about $12k+ depreciation on sgcarmart. Wonder what the power rating of this merc is. Would you recommend that I consider this car? Looks new and low mileage. In built GPS too... http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.ph...495&DL=1400 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladykillerz 4th Gear May 5, 2012 Share May 5, 2012 i was told that E200ML has power lack and high FC as compared to E200K. is that true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/5/2012 at 8:26 PM, Ladykillerz said: i was told that E200ML has power lack and high FC as compared to E200K. is that true? Actually 163 Bhp is 'more than enough' for our roads,only downpoint of this engine are 'quite noisy & rough'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-driver 5th Gear May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/5/2012 at 8:26 PM, Ladykillerz said: i was told that E200ML has power lack and high FC as compared to E200K. is that true? Yes... ML is under-powered whereas the K is just adquate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-driver 5th Gear May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/5/2012 at 7:16 PM, Leech said: Bro, how's your merc? There's a E200ML at about $12k+ depreciation on sgcarmart. Wonder what the power rating of this merc is. Would you recommend that I consider this car? Looks new and low mileage. In built GPS too... http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.ph...495&DL=1400 Go for the K model if budget allows... its got keyless, more horses and facelifted inside and outside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/6/2012 at 3:21 AM, Old-driver said: Yes... ML is under-powered whereas the K is just adquate 0-100km/h in 8.5 secs you said is under-powered.???I think you need,E-55 AMG.! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-driver 5th Gear May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/6/2012 at 5:17 AM, ER-3682 said: 0-100km/h in 8.5 secs you said is under-powered.???I think you need,E-55 AMG.! Never believe the manufacturer's claim... this car cant do below 10 seconds for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladykillerz 4th Gear May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/6/2012 at 5:17 AM, ER-3682 said: 0-100km/h in 8.5 secs you said is under-powered.???I think you need,E-55 AMG.! sometimes its not just about 0-100 thingy. we need 0-100 to be smooth and best, quietly and rapidly hit the numbers. i think the ML is noisy and rough thus, it is quite unpleasant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/6/2012 at 6:26 AM, Ladykillerz said: sometimes its not just about 0-100 thingy. we need 0-100 to be smooth and best, quietly and rapidly hit the numbers. i think the ML is noisy and rough thus, it is quite unpleasant. Anyway all Mercedes in line 4,from the late 60's [M-115],to the 80's[M-102],90's[M-111],are not smooth & sound rough..even their in line 6[M-110] to [M-103/4] are not that smooth either,compare with BMW's units. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briansoh 1st Gear May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 Yes I agree that Mercedes 4 cylinder petrol engines are very noisy and are not inspiring at all when revved hard. However, they are extremely reliable and hardy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng40765 1st Gear May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/6/2012 at 6:26 AM, Ladykillerz said: sometimes its not just about 0-100 thingy. we need 0-100 to be smooth and best, quietly and rapidly hit the numbers. i think the ML is noisy and rough thus, it is quite unpleasant. I agree, and also about the gear shift smoothness up and down gear when you accelarate and decelerate. Some car step on brake and upon immediate acceleration, its jerks hard. If only good sprint but not smooth, can vomit in start stop traffic. Sat in a WRX before, feel like vomit as the passenger but I guess for as the driver, its shiok. Definitely not just about the 0-100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercs Hypersonic May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 Go for the 200k,slightly more power with no SBC issue. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged May 6, 2012 Share May 6, 2012 On 5/6/2012 at 1:04 PM, Briansoh said: Yes I agree that Mercedes 4 cylinder petrol engines are very noisy and are not inspiring at all when revved hard. However, they are extremely reliable and hardy. Reliable.?the M-111,wire harness always fail,older M102,head gasket always leak...despite repaired by C&C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueGTR Neutral Newbie May 7, 2012 Share May 7, 2012 On 4/24/2012 at 4:54 AM, WML888 said: I noticed there are 2 different types of engine block design for E200ML : 1) One with a stainless steel bar across the engine block (printed with Mercedes) 2) The other type has NO stainless steel bar across the engine block (just the Logo close to the engine oil inlet) Anyone know the difference ? ie : Any horsepower difference ? Or one is newer than the other ? Bro, it's purely 'academic' to know the Hp, why? Pls allow me to explain. Used to own a C63 AMG 'Sports pack' & Merc literature states that it's producing 487Hp! However when i had ride Dyno for 'Base Run' (need to know actual HP/Torque figures before changing exhaust & remap to guage improvements), was shocked that it's showing a friggin punny 395HP! Mind you, it's ' Uncorrected' figures which means the figures quoted fm Merc is crank & there's machiam 20+% of transmission loss fm Engine quoted HP versus WHEELS HP. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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