Ahtong 1st Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 (edited) Actual mission pics: From 70th Anniversary reunion Newspaper article: CINCINNATI -- The jovial banter and storytelling will halt, and guests will be ushered out of the meeting room, the door shutting behind them. Five men, all in their 90s, will come to military-erect attention. Before them will be a wooden display case with 80 silver goblets. On each, a name is engraved twice: to be read right-side-up -- for those still alive -- or to be read placed upside-down, in memory of the 75 now dead. "To those who have gone," 96-year-old Lt. Col. Richard Cole will toast, raising his goblet high. The other four surviving Doolittle's Raiders -- Maj. Thomas Griffin, Lt. Col. Robert Hite, Lt. Col. Edward Saylor and Master Sgt. David Thatcher -- will answer in unison: "To those who have gone." The ceremony Wednesday will come 70 years to the day after the bombing raid over Tokyo led by Lt. Col. "Jimmy" Doolittle that helped change the course of World War II. Four days of celebration are planned today through Friday at the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force near Dayton, including a fly-in of B-25 bombers like what they flew. Special guests include survivors or relatives of the USS Hornet aircraft carrier crew that launched them and of Chinese villagers who helped save them after the raid. The toast ritual grew from early get-togethers led by Doolittle, who died in 1993. "It is a very private moment," said Cole, a Dayton native who lives in Comfort, Texas. "You remember the ones who didn't make it; you think about them, and you are sorry they aren't with us. And then the ones fortunate to still be living trade off stories." The stories are many, the men's bond forged in a daring mission. "I didn't expect to survive. We should have been shot down," said Saylor, 92, a Brusett, Mont., native who lives in Puyallup, Wash. Pilots volunteered and trained in Florida for what they only knew was "extremely hazardous." Navigator Griffin, from Green Bay, got top-secret briefings with pilot David Jones in Washington, just five months after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. "We needed to hit back," recalled Griffin, now 95 and living near Cincinnati. Once at sea, the rest learned targets -- factories, plants, military facilities on mainland Japan. They knew the uncertainties: what if the Navy task force was attacked? What defenses would they face? And with B-25s unable to land on carrier decks, could they reach friendly bases in China? "We didn't know we were supposed to be afraid," summarized Saylor, 22 then. The Raiders brushed aside Doolittle's assurances that anyone was free to withdraw. "It was a mission in the war. We did what we were required to do," said Thatcher, of Missoula, Mont., age 90. After encountering Japanese patrols, the raid launched ahead of plan, some 200 miles farther from shore for fuel-stretched bombers. Doolittle's plane took off first at 08:20 from a pitching carrier deck. "It's the Charge of the Light Brigade," said historian Hugh Ambrose. "They know that a betting man would probably bet against them ... brave heroism in the face of an enemy that at that time was winning the war." They flew low in radio silence, skimming seas and then treetops. Cole recalls the country song "Wabash Cannonball" running through his head. He tapped his foot in time until Doolittle shot him a questioning look. They were greeted by anti-aircraft guns and puffs of black smoke. Flak shook planes. "As we got there, there was no conversation, until the bombardier told Col. Doolittle that the initial bombing target was in sight," said Cole, who was in the lead plane. "At that point, Col. Doolittle said to open up the bomb bay doors." The bombs dropped, "and we got the heck out of there." The danger was just beginning. All 16 planes lacked enough fuel to reach bases and either crash-landed or ditched in dark, rough weather along China's coast south of Shanghai. "The most scary time for me was standing in a plane at 9,000 feet, in the middle of a pretty bad storm, looking down into a black hole and ready to exit into the unknown," Cole said. "I never learned how to swim," added a chuckling Saylor, who held onto a damaged raft. "I was raised on a cattle ranch out in Montana." Thatcher was aboard the plane dubbed "The Ruptured Duck," which crash-landed into water. Pilot Ted Lawson's leg was badly broken, later amputated. They narrowly stayed ahead of Japanese searchers, who killed villagers suspected of helping the Americans. "We had a lot of near-misses, when they raided places we had been the night before," said Griffin. Eight Raiders were captured, and three executed. A fourth died in captivity. Three had died off China. "The Chinese people were of immeasurable help to us," Cole reflected. "If it hadn't been for them, I wouldn't be alive today to tell you about this." Although the Tokyo raid inflicted light damage compared to Pearl Harbor, it shook Japanese confidence and uplifted Americans, said Ambrose, author of "The Pacific." "It was a symbolic act," he said. "It did wonders for the American people. It was just the sort of calling card that let people understand that ... yes, we're going to do it." Surviving Raiders got new assignments. Ten more would die in the war. The Raiders' postwar gatherings have become popular drawing cards for museums, air bases and other locales. "Young people, parents and their grandparents are there to meet these gentlemen and hear their stories firsthand," Ambrose said. "It's a chance to experience living history. ... It becomes a part of us." Hite, 92, who survived Japanese captivity, had recent health issues, but the Odell, Texas, native and Nashville, Tenn., resident is expected to attend and join the toast. "It's going to be special," said Griffin. "I can't help but think it's going to be our last big one." Six years ago, there were still 16 survivors. By plan, the last two Raiders living will someday make the final toast. They will sip from cognac vintage 1896 -- the year Doolittle was born. Edited April 18, 2012 by Ahtong ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackRabbit 3rd Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 B25 Mitchell.. my favourite WWII bomber. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackRabbit 3rd Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 I remember in Sec 2 I saved up money and bought the 1/72 scale Airfix model of Doolittle's B25 Lady Luck. I think it's still in a box somewhere in my mom's house, if she has not thrown it away yet. I loved the gun turrets bristling all over the plane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 One of the most audacious acts in WW2... they all knew that it was a "one-way" mission, as the B-25s did not have enough range to reach friendly bases - but still went ahead with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokerd 2nd Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 I remember in Sec 2 I saved up money and bought the 1/72 scale Airfix model of Doolittle's B25 Lady Luck. I think it's still in a box somewhere in my mom's house, if she has not thrown it away yet. I loved the gun turrets bristling all over the plane. The Doolittle 'version' removes the guns and replaced them with broomsticks when they had to launch early after the carrier was discovered by a fishing boat. Got to admire the bravery of those airmen, it's like charging an enemy position with no guns... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtong 1st Gear April 18, 2012 Author Share April 18, 2012 One of the most audacious acts in WW2... they all knew that it was a "one-way" mission, as the B-25s did not have enough range to reach friendly bases - but still went ahead with it. If they weren't forced to launch early, they might have just made it to China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtong 1st Gear April 18, 2012 Author Share April 18, 2012 I remember in Sec 2 I saved up money and bought the 1/72 scale Airfix model of Doolittle's B25 Lady Luck. I think it's still in a box somewhere in my mom's house, if she has not thrown it away yet. I loved the gun turrets bristling all over the plane. Could be wrong but I think early war B-25 were painted in OD. Only late war versions were unpainted aluminium to save weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily1986 5th Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 This raid essentially epitomise the very reason why N. Korea is so hell bent on doing the test launch last week. Reason being, the psychological impact of the enemy being able to strike at the heart of your motherland is gripping. It truely is. Never mind the fact that the Doolittel force was a motley band of raiders. The psychological warfare was on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily1986 5th Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 I prefer the B-29. Proportional-wise, it looks sleek and elegant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tireburner 3rd Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 Was Doolittle ranked Lt Col instead of a full bird during the mission? It was really amazing to see the technology 70 years ago, that they could launch the 16 relatively big bombers from the short flight deck of an aircraft carrier. No GPS at that time to guide them to target either. I like to hear the bombadier saying "Bombs Away, bombs away" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 Remembered that I first knew of this raid through the epic war movie Midway. Doolittle and his band of bomber crews conducted this audacious raid not out of any tactical move but more of a moral booster bombing run to strike fear into the heart of imperial Japan after the Pearl Habor attack. Like some bros mentioned, it was literally a suicidal mission and this was not helped by the fact of the early launch after they were spotted by a Japanese picket ship which seriously decreased their operational radius. As a a result, many Mitchells simply ran out of fuel and all crashed IIRC with some crewmen being caught and executed by the infuriated Japanese. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy 4th Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 The japanese exacted revenge on up 25,000 chinese living in the area where the pilots landed because they were helped by the chinese. Germ wareware was reportedly used. 1 plane also landed in Soviet Union but the crew was not returned to US because of some diplomatic ties between Soviet and Japan. The crew then escaped from Soviet Union to Iran and into an English embassy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtong 1st Gear April 18, 2012 Author Share April 18, 2012 This raid essentially epitomise the very reason why N. Korea is so hell bent on doing the test launch last week. Reason being, the psychological impact of the enemy being able to strike at the heart of your motherland is gripping. It truely is. Never mind the fact that the Doolittel force was a motley band of raiders. The psychological warfare was on. Good point but unfortunately for North Kimchi their rocket was a bust. End up getting laughed at rather than scaring people. I think one of the nicest scare in recent times was done by the PRC navy. One of their subs "accidentaly" surfaced very close to a US carrier group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 Good point but unfortunately for North Kimchi their rocket was a bust. End up getting laughed at rather than scaring people. I think one of the nicest scare in recent times was done by the PRC navy. One of their subs "accidentaly" surfaced very close to a US carrier group. And I remembered the CBG commander was relieved of his command after this incident... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtong 1st Gear April 18, 2012 Author Share April 18, 2012 Like some bros mentioned, it was literally a suicidal mission and this was not helped by the fact of the early launch after they were spotted by a Japanese picket ship which seriously decreased their operational radius. As a a result, many Mitchells simply ran out of fuel and all crashed IIRC with some crewmen being caught and executed by the infuriated Japanese. It was a brave move by Doolittle to launch early. If they launched as scheduled, it was already iffy whether they will reach China. By going early, it was almost confirmed they will have to ditch somewhere. Remember reading an account by one of the Tokyo raiders. He said ground crew continued to top up petrol for their aircraft after engine start. They even rocked the B-25 to get rid of bubbles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tireburner 3rd Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 It was a brave move by Doolittle to launch early. If they launched as scheduled, it was already iffy whether they will reach China. By going early, it was almost confirmed they will have to ditch somewhere. Remember reading an account by one of the Tokyo raiders. He said ground crew continued to top up petrol for their aircraft after engine start. They even rocked the B-25 to get rid of bubbles. Sounds like those ground crew were Singaporean (with their antics of filling up petrol in JB). Did they raise one side of the aircraft by inserting wooden choke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 It was a brave move by Doolittle to launch early. If they launched as scheduled, it was already iffy whether they will reach China. By going early, it was almost confirmed they will have to ditch somewhere. Remember reading an account by one of the Tokyo raiders. He said ground crew continued to top up petrol for their aircraft after engine start. They even rocked the B-25 to get rid of bubbles. Remembered they even dumped the armor plating within and other "non-essentials" to lighten the load in order to take off from Hornet. And the order to launch was given after all options were considered and that in the end the risk to the entire assault force was too great to allow the Japanese to learn of this raid. Brave to the point of suicidal but they did achieve their objective. Imagine you are one of the crews knowing that it is almost guaranteed a one-way trip.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
W210k 1st Gear April 18, 2012 Share April 18, 2012 Yeah, God bless America! If not for the USMC and USAF, the Pacific war against Japan would have been lost. Ironically, it's thanks to the Germans (Jewish) who had defected to join Oppenheimer and his team in developing the atom bomb that had stopped Japan dead (literally) in it's tracks. Otherwise, we'd still be using banana money to bid for COEs! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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