Territorial claims in South China Sea

[macrosszero]

On 12/21/2023 at 6:25 PM, Sturtles said:

Have previously shared the 11-dash lines under China's claim were actively supported by USA post war under KMT China in 1940s and 50s.

USA even provided warships to KMT to claim these islands.

EEZ of 200nm only came into effect in 1982, because of disputes between Iceland and United Kingdom on fishing grounds.

It was only 3nm at the start and UK fished near Iceland for Salmons post world war, and as a result, its now 200nm 

Only when KMT fled and CCP ruled China, their support became ambiguous, and now non-existent due to politics, not based on facts.

 

Wot? 我讲东你讲西 (I talk East you talk west)?

[Sturtles]

On 12/21/2023 at 7:00 PM, Macrosszero said:

Wot? 我讲东你讲西 (I talk East you talk west)?

Sensed the double entrendre 

[macrosszero]

On 12/21/2023 at 7:06 PM, Sturtles said:

Sensed the double entrendre 

Well at least I know you’re probably not a bot, but it still doesn’t answer why your response wasn’t quite addressing the point I made

[Etnt]

On 12/16/2023 at 9:43 AM, Jamesc said:

Chinese Coast Guard Blasts Philippine Boats With Water Cannons 

in Philippines own territorial waters.

China 10 Dash line almost touching Philippines and East Malaysia.

now wonder they keep repeating it's a piss-ful rise. sure very piss-ful with the watergun.

[Ender]

On 12/16/2023 at 9:43 AM, Jamesc said:

Chinese Coast Guard Blasts Philippine Boats With Water Cannons 

in Philippines own territorial waters.

China 10 Dash line almost touching Philippines and East Malaysia.

Peaceful mah, whenever the other party responded negatively to their territorial assertion, they always say they want to settle thru dialog.

[inlinesix]

中菲紧张进一步升级 王毅：两国关系站在十字路口

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/china/story20231221-1457554

Wang YI: China and Philippines relationship is at a crossroad.

This is the original text.

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/wjbzhd/202312/t20231220_11208285.shtml

"王毅说，当前中菲关系面临严重困难，根源在于菲方改变了迄今的政策立场，背弃了自己作出的承诺，不断在海上挑衅滋事，损害中方的正当合法权利。中菲关系已站在十字路口，面临何去何从的选择，菲方务必要慎重行事。"

"Wang Yi said that the current China-Philippines relations are facing serious difficulties. The root cause is that the Philippines has changed its policy stance so far, reneged on its commitments, continued to provoke and cause trouble at sea, and undermined China's legitimate and legitimate rights. China-Philippines relations are at a crossroads. Faced with the choice of where to go, the Philippines must act with caution."

[Sturtles]

On 12/21/2023 at 6:16 PM, Sturtles said:

 

 

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/us-mulls-bedding-down-f-15-air-superiority-fighters/

 

 

The inevitable..

Uncle Sam is now pushing Singapore into the fray.

Chinese/ North Korean or Russian Missiles launched at Guam will now possibly hit the SG detachment housed there.

Effectively, SAF hardware and their servicemen are now hostages to ensure the correct side is picked when the conflict starts.

A calculated, and unfriendly move by the current US government.

Doubt Ng Eng Hen volunteered to put his detachment there.

Should it materialise, the fleet numbers are expected to grow given the infrastructural investment required for "Twelve" F-15s as reported

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/22/asia/us-air-force-pacific-tinian-island-airfield-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

 

New nuclear launch point on the 2nd island chain, beside the proposed relocated SAF detachment at Guam.

 

[Playtime]

On 12/22/2023 at 10:51 AM, inlinesix said:

中菲紧张进一步升级 王毅：两国关系站在十字路口

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/china/story20231221-1457554

Wang YI: China and Philippines relationship is at a crossroad.

This is the original text.

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/wjbzhd/202312/t20231220_11208285.shtml

"王毅说，当前中菲关系面临严重困难，根源在于菲方改变了迄今的政策立场，背弃了自己作出的承诺，不断在海上挑衅滋事，损害中方的正当合法权利。中菲关系已站在十字路口，面临何去何从的选择，菲方务必要慎重行事。"

"Wang Yi said that the current China-Philippines relations are facing serious difficulties. The root cause is that the Philippines has changed its policy stance so far, reneged on its commitments, continued to provoke and cause trouble at sea, and undermined China's legitimate and legitimate rights. China-Philippines relations are at a crossroads. Faced with the choice of where to go, the Philippines must act with caution."

Wherever I read PRC statement..  I get a urge to throw up 🤢🤮

Their entitlement and mentality is so condescending it's unbearable. 

[Ender]

On 12/22/2023 at 11:46 AM, Playtime said:

Wherever I read PRC statement..  I get a urge to throw up 🤢🤮

Their entitlement and mentality is so condescending it's unbearable. 

It's always they say they take the non confrontational approach while the other party is the hostileone. But in reality the actions by them in SCS is the opposite of what they say.

[Atonchia]

On 12/16/2023 at 9:54 AM, Macrosszero said:

See how peaceful and not-warlike they are? If it was some other superpower, it would be live round warning shots across the bows, not play water guns already!

I think the whole world mistaken the meaning of water cannon....

See the usage of water cannon on arrival of the 1st A380.

[Atonchia]

On 12/22/2023 at 11:03 AM, Sturtles said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/22/asia/us-air-force-pacific-tinian-island-airfield-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

 

New nuclear launch point on the 2nd island chain, beside the proposed relocated SAF detachment at Guam.

 

So US has bases to utilise on

SK, JP, PH, Guam and Tinian

[Atonchia]

On 12/21/2023 at 6:16 PM, Sturtles said:

 

 

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/us-mulls-bedding-down-f-15-air-superiority-fighters/

 

 

The inevitable..

Uncle Sam is now pushing Singapore into the fray.

Chinese/ North Korean or Russian Missiles launched at Guam will now possibly hit the SG detachment housed there.

Effectively, SAF hardware and their servicemen are now hostages to ensure the correct side is picked when the conflict starts.

A calculated, and unfriendly move by the current US government.

Doubt Ng Eng Hen volunteered to put his detachment there.

Should it materialise, the fleet numbers are expected to grow given the infrastructural investment required for "Twelve" F-15s as reported

 

If we have training base there maybe China will not bomb Guam in time of combat.... given SG close ties with China?

[macrosszero]

Only interested in this cannon

[Didu]

China's embassy condemns Philippine envoy's remarks on South China Sea

China's embassy in the Philippines said on Sunday (Mar 3) that it "strongly" condemns the Philippine ambassador to Washington's recent China-related remarks, saying they "disregarded basic facts".

The remarks "wantonly hyped up the South China Sea issue and made speculations and malicious smears against China", the embassy said in a statement.

Jose Manuel Romualdez said on Wednesday that while the United States sees both the South China Sea issue and a potential Taiwan conflict as "serious concerns", he believed the "real flashpoint is the West Philippine Sea" given "all of these skirmishes happening there".

The Chinese embassy said: "Inviting wolves into the house and engaging in small circles will not only not help resolve the differences in the South China Sea, but on the contrary will complicate the regional situation, and undermine regional peace and stability."

It urged Romualdez to stop spreading the "China threat theory" and "paranoia of persecution", and to refrain from "acting as a spokesperson for other countries".

The Philippine embassy in Beijing did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/china-embassy-condemns-philippines-envoy-remarks-south-sea-4166886

[Ender]

Water cannon are really powerful enough to damage boats. 

War monger Philipine should just cede their claims to any part of SCS that clashes with China. I am for peace.

 

 

[Kb27]

China claims all of South China sea belongs to them.

China claims Taiwan belongs to them.

Russia claims Ukraine belongs to them.

See what's happening in the world today, if the democracies don't stand up ?

WW3 is not so far away.

We shouldn't be afraid, but to be ready for it.

Edited March 25, 2024 by Kb27

[Jamesc]

Yes war monger Ukraine should also stop all aggression against the peaceful Russia too.

And that Israel please stop kidnapping the innocent kids of Gaza too.

I am also all for peace.

On 3/26/2024 at 3:03 AM, Ender said:

Water cannon are really powerful enough to damage boats. 

War monger Philipine should just cede their claims to any part of SCS that clashes with China. I am for peace.

 

 

 

[Jamesc]

Aggressive Philippines coast guard please stop stealing China warship water by sucking it with your invisible pipes.

Edited March 26, 2024 by Jamesc