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4x108 so many choice oz/bbs

adding spacer will kill your c5 hydropneumatics very fast and entire system will not function at properly once you fit spacer

 

 

Very limited choices for 4x108 in JB. May be repaint the original wheels might be a better option.

 

Regards,

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Very limited choices for 4x108 in JB. May be repaint the original wheels might be a better option.

 

Regards,

 

 

 

may I know which car are you talking about in particular before I decide whether it's worth my 2cents? [:)]

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Just fyi , my buddy tried this and it was just nothing but trouble after a month or so. Spacers were grinding the rim, weak walls, etc etc...

 

1 COMMON problem we face using custom make spacer is the tyres rubbing against the fenders. esp when u carry full load or go over hump.

 

u take a look at your tyres , its inside the fenders normally. even u carry over load, the fender will cover over the tyres.

 

but when u add a spacer about 25mm thick , its like pushing your tyres outside 25mm. u just use your finger aga aga measure. u will notice your tyres will mostly flush with your fenders or even come out abit.

 

then u will have to do some thing like rolling the fenders. or changing the suspension to those after market very hard type.

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Not sure if all the comments which discourage TS to do so are from personal experiences or just base on gut feel, theory or hearsay. But I believe all are just concern over safety for him/her

 

Spacers are extremely common. And I feel that unless you are always driving in extreme condition, it is safe to use.

 

I'm on 20mm spacers for months already.

No problem so far except indeed the tyres rubber fender when carrying heavy load. End up I need to raise my suspension up by a notch.

 

However, I am on 5 lug to 5 lug. Never heard of 4 to 5, but shouldn't be a problem still although 4 to 4 will still be on the same side.

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Hi there,

 

Thank you very much for the informative input and advice.

 

I read from an articule that the lugs are there to fasten the wheel to the hub and does nothing to support the weight of the car.

 

Will check around more before taking the next steps.

 

Regards,

Basically, for the hub extension kind of spacers, u are securing the spacers to your hub (in your case using 4 lugs), then securing your wheel to your spacer which have 5 lugs sticking out.

I dun think its true that your lugs don't bear weight. Your suspension holds up the car and spreads the weight to the 4 wheels, translating into ground pressure. That's why bigger cars typically have bigger wheels compared to smaller cars. And the connection between wheel and suspension is the lugs at the wheel hub. If your wheels are securely fastened to the hub, most of the load get transferred to the wheel hub.

But logically thinking, there should still be residual load transferred to the studs. You may notice that bigger cars tyically come with 5 lugs while small cars come with 4. And those serious off road type may even come with 6. I think the number of studs help to spread the load too, otherwise manufacturers might as well design all wheels with 4 studs and save us all a lot of trouble. Most race and rally cars use 1 single central locking bolt for speed of wheel change, but have you seen the size of that solt. If it were true that its non-load bearing, that bolt should be the same size as our normal studs to save costs. [laugh][laugh]

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Look under Knowledge Base, Wheel/Rim- Things to look out for when changing your car's wheels, in www.johnnytyre.com

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