ER-3682 Supersonic September 7, 2013 Share September 7, 2013 the new es is based on the avalon's platform which means the car is even bigger than the gs But still FWD...no fun.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholesy 4th Gear September 7, 2013 Share September 7, 2013 Should be at least $225K...sure more expensive than the Honda Accord.. IS is alr 230 - 240k....I thk ES wil b more exp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp66 5th Gear September 7, 2013 Author Share September 7, 2013 IS is alr 230 - 240k....I thk ES wil b more exp. should be close to IS price range, otherwise might else buy GS base model at $257K. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholesy 4th Gear September 7, 2013 Share September 7, 2013 should be close to IS price range, otherwise might else buy GS base model at $257K. isn't the ES in the same range as GS? quoting previous model, IS was 2000cc (IS200) while the ES came in minimum ES300, same like GS300. anyw things may hv changed this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic September 7, 2013 Share September 7, 2013 (edited) isn't the ES in the same range as GS? quoting previous model, IS was 2000cc (IS200) while the ES came in minimum ES300, same like GS300. anyw things may hv changed this time. No..ES is just an "Upmarket" Camry...while the IS,GS & LS are 'proper' Lexus.. Edited September 7, 2013 by ER-3682 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twich 3rd Gear September 8, 2013 Share September 8, 2013 No..ES is just an "Upmarket" Camry...while the IS,GS & LS are 'proper' Lexus.. A4 is an upmarket of Jetta. A3 is an upmarket of Golf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic September 8, 2013 Share September 8, 2013 A4 is an upmarket of Jetta. A3 is an upmarket of Golf. Actually in modern times..alot of cars have parts sharing...to save Mfg cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholesy 4th Gear September 8, 2013 Share September 8, 2013 No..ES is just an "Upmarket" Camry...while the IS,GS & LS are 'proper' Lexus.. but they stil share the same Toyota platforms...eg. GS I googled is the S platform which is same as Toyota crown. unless the ES is like the RX, jus rebadge and add some premium frills... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee_33 Turbocharged September 9, 2013 Share September 9, 2013 No. They didn't bring in the last ES because Lexus didn't make RHD for the last model. This time round, they may consider making RHD again. The last model had ES240 (same as Camry 2.4L) sold in China, followed by ES270 (Same engine as RX270), and the ES350. This current model will have ES250 (4-cyl same as Camry 2.5L), ES300h (2.5V6 Hybrid), and ES350 (Same engine as GS350). Err...correction. ES300h runs on 2.5L 4-Cyl, similar drivetrain to Camry Hybrid. The 2.5L V6 used in the IS/GS/Mark X/Crown has never been adapted to run on a transverse FWD platform before, if I am not mistaken. Basically, ES300 is really a re-skinned, upmarket Camry. In SG there isn't even a V6 to distinguish it from the Camry, unlike the last one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonewposts 4th Gear September 9, 2013 Share September 9, 2013 Err...correction. ES300h runs on 2.5L 4-Cyl, similar drivetrain to Camry Hybrid. The 2.5L V6 used in the IS/GS/Mark X/Crown has never been adapted to run on a transverse FWD platform before, if I am not mistaken. Basically, ES300 is really a re-skinned, upmarket Camry. In SG there isn't even a V6 to distinguish it from the Camry, unlike the last one. In US the es350 costs 36370, while the is250 costs 36000. so the price for the es350 is around the same as the is250. but borneo may bring in the 2.5v6 non hybrid to undercut the is250 price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonewposts 4th Gear September 9, 2013 Share September 9, 2013 No..ES is just an "Upmarket" Camry...while the IS,GS & LS are 'proper' Lexus.. ES used to be an upmarket camry but the interior of the new es looks more like a gs than camry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonewposts 4th Gear September 9, 2013 Share September 9, 2013 In US the es350 costs 36370, while the is250 costs 36000. so the price for the es350 is around the same as the is250. but borneo may bring in the 2.5v6 non hybrid to undercut the is250 price http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/article.php?AID=8732 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonewposts 4th Gear September 9, 2013 Share September 9, 2013 http://lexusenthusiast.com/2012/04/30/2013...duced-in-china/ it seems like the engine in the es250 is actually different from the 1 in gs250. got a feeling that the engine in es250 is the exact same engine as the 1 found in the 2.5 camry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluboxed 1st Gear October 4, 2013 Share October 4, 2013 QUOTE (ER-3682 @ Sep 8 2013, 06:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No..ES is just an "Upmarket" Camry...while the IS,GS & LS are 'proper' Lexus.. A4 is an upmarket of Jetta. A3 is an upmarket of Golf. A4 should be to Passat....not Jetta...the A3 sedan is to Jetta.. http://lexusenthusiast.com/2012/04/30/2013...duced-in-china/ it seems like the engine in the es250 is actually different from the 1 in gs250. got a feeling that the engine in es250 is the exact same engine as the 1 found in the 2.5 camry same power as the camry 2.5 at 184bhp... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic October 4, 2013 Share October 4, 2013 A4 should be to Passat....not Jetta...the A3 sedan is to Jetta.. same power as the camry 2.5 at 184bhp... I think they shared the same engine since both are F.W,D.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluboxed 1st Gear October 5, 2013 Share October 5, 2013 I think they shared the same engine since both are F.W,D.. yes i would say both the camry and es250 shared the same engine.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyiqin October 15, 2013 Share October 15, 2013 such a nice car to be owned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleasurebd Neutral Newbie October 19, 2013 Share October 19, 2013 (edited) For those who are said Japs are out of design & idea just take a look at the Lexus LFA. Innovative design like no other else. I bet you can't find a smiliarity to any other car. Thanks http://www.rugbylivestreaming.com.au/ Edited October 19, 2013 by pleasurebd ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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