Bic_cherry Neutral Newbie March 29, 2012 Share March 29, 2012 (edited) [author note: this topic was previously discussed at 'New Rules : Giving Way to Buses Coming Out From Bus Stop.' (Dec2008)] Mandatory Give Way to Buses Scheme Is Mr Lui Tuck Yew crazy to bend the law to suit his convenience as Minister of Transport? [Source: OneMotoring: 'Mandatory Give Way to Buses Scheme''] [Source: She claims she's a "victim" of new give-way-to-bus rule] Yes, public transport (buses) is Singapore are slow and sucks "Mrs Teo said bus speeds have gone down from 19.1kmh in 2007 to 17.8kmh, as ridership went up from 2.9 million per day to 3.45 million per day in the same time." ['Bus hubs currently the priority and good progress made: Josephine Teo': (TDY18Jan2012)], and in fact, transport by bicycle for journeys 30km and up might average 25.750kmh. [source: 'road-bike.co.uk'] Rather than the drawing up of more bus lanes, it seems that the MOT is getting lazy and thus enacting some confusing stop gap measures like the ridiculous mandatory Give Way to Buses Scheme (GWTBS)- a scheme whose logic if not legality remains both contradictory if not perplexing. It is in fact perhaps oxymoronic that the good Minister now says that the slow speed of buses exiting bus is due to the fast and continuous movement of other vehicular traffic on Singapore roads, since in stationary traffic conditions yellow boxes to provide for 'reserved' space so that exiting buses ALWAYS have right of way. [Dunearn-Newton Rd- bus bay with typical yellow box pict]. Wouldn't the provision of better public transport services cause fewer Singaporeans to demand travel by private car or taxi?- a largely carbon and road use intense mode of private transportation. Isn't the revolving door [wiki] effect of buses entering bus bays the occasion for buses to exit just the same since a bus awaiting entry to a bus bay effectively blocks off all oncoming traffic by virtue of its size? (that is if Minister Lui is adamant about saving bus-lanes painting costs). Mr Lui as Rear Admiral used to be Chief of Navy; with a cannon in front and torpedoes beneath, everyone gave way to the Admiral's ship. But road vehicular traffic is not the same, emergency vehicles get stuck in traffic jams just the same- nobody moves. Everyone needs space on the little land designated for road use: bus lanes besides allowing cyclist free passage (cycling is good for exercise (save govt healthcare costs) and good for the environment (low impact on global warming)) also allow emergency public vehicles free passage to conduct to their rightful roles, even during the heaviest traffic periods on all days. Emergency public vehicles stuck in jams remain a stain upon the efficiency that the PAP boasts its credentials by. The start stop driving by vehicles on the left lane caused by ambiguity as to whether a bus is indeed leaving the bus bay is also another cause for accidents occurring, if not a compromise in time and energy efficiency as drivers operate their brakes with unnecessary intensity. This adds to pollution if not frustration of driving on Singapore roads; foreign talents holding international driving licenses also cannot be expected to understand this paradoxical local law as it is international convention for vehicles along minor roads (bays etc) to give way to vehicles along major roads (e.g. trunk roads): wouldn't an accident due to this legal paradox result in more jams created by unnecessary traffic accidents? One side issue would be that the Minister is being unnecessary cruel to cyclist and motorcyclist in the enaction of the GWTBS law is that the poor rider/ pillion is then expected to breath in the diesel fumes of the exiting bus: not a pleasant experience nor a safe one- considering that the car driver behind might not be able to break in time, having not considered about the need to stop to give way to the exiting bus and result in the poor rider being crushed in-between- another tragic road fatality. Mr Lui's salary is one that mirrors the elite of the elite in Singapore [pict]. Surely being elite is not about just making more money? Don't the people of Singapore demand more than just hare brained stop gap measures in managing public transport and road use in hyper-efficient Singapore? Not everybody can afford a maid [pict link], nor the privilege of private transportation in Singapore [Saw Phiak Hua empress pict]. More for public transport, safer transport for motorcycles and bicycles. Good Minister, Thank you and have a nice day. References: Above: Dunearn-Newton Rd bus bay- yellow box pict. [pict source: Singapore's defense burden - Something no maid can carry] [pict source] - STOMP 29Aug09: “I gave way to bus -- and got rammed from behind”, [link] - STOMP 19Aug09: “I am one of many 'victims' unfairly fined $130 under new 'give way to bus' rule”, [link] [link] [img source] Edited March 29, 2012 by Bic_cherry ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unidentified 1st Gear March 29, 2012 Share March 29, 2012 (edited) buckteeth lui is oblivious to motorists since the elite members of his gang all travel with poodle convoy clearing the way.the mandatory give way to bus scheme is doomed from the start with either buses recklessly dash out or the cars behind not able to stop in time,resulting with more accidents.but this is ok since the cars that gets rammed are from sinkies and it's almost of zero chances that any of his elite ministars cars will be involved in. and more and more bus lanes appetizer to jam up the roads then comes in with the ERP gantries as the main course. it's amazing that sinkies is still paying millions to this bunch of jokers whom are making sinkie lives difficult instead of making sinkies life better.this is so wrong. when they want sinkies to switch public transport,a dethroned queen once commented that it's the passengers themselves who chose not to board the train and not because the train is full,alas the TRUTH is HARD and she got refuted big time. why should sinkie give up their comfort of traveling in their WORLD MOST EXPENSIVE car(any made) to get SQUEEZED in trains and also wasting their time watching several trains passed by before they can managed to SQUEEZE in. either way sinkies are screwed whether they are driving or taking public transport. Edited March 29, 2012 by Unidentified Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zniper 2nd Gear March 29, 2012 Share March 29, 2012 i see the pay structure... who says engineer earns more than half a mil??? i am an engineer, consultant but my pay is no where near 0.1% of a mil~!!! in actual fact, it's only 0.000~~~% of a mil!!! crap crap crap!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachlee Neutral Newbie March 29, 2012 Share March 29, 2012 i see the pay structure... who says engineer earns more than half a mil??? i am an engineer, consultant but my pay is no where near 0.1% of a mil~!!! in actual fact, it's only 0.000~~~% of a mil!!! crap crap crap!!! haha maybe they meant financial engineer, a profession that does computational finance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged April 28, 2017 Share April 28, 2017 when then will you be committing an offense. If the bus bay is empty, can you still be on that lane ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic April 28, 2017 Share April 28, 2017 when then will you be committing an offense. If the bus bay is empty, can you still be on that lane ? Can you run a red light if the roads are empty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged April 28, 2017 Share April 28, 2017 Can you run a red light if the roads are empty? thats a different situation altogether, There is no stipulated timing. Else would be better to mark out the whole lane as bus ONLY lane. Why then is there a need for mandatory give way. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashbang Turbocharged April 28, 2017 Share April 28, 2017 This is referring to the give way yellow boxes, not bus lane. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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