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I have doubts over the quality of the petrol in Msia.

 

Many years ago, my previous car pumped Msia petrol mostly. In that 5 years, I had 2 engine trouble, and although cannot pinpoint that it must be caused by the fuel, I never had such issue with my other cars before which pumped only Spore fuel.

 

So today, even when I go into Msia (normally short rides), I never touch their fuel. And if I have to go long distance to Msia, I will fly in and take cab/bus...never drive.

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  On 9/26/2015 at 8:42 AM, Karoon said:

 

Sg side toll gate raised manually by ica fella. he'll usually assume you've paid.

My side is interlocked. once you scan touch and go card, barrier will rise even though custom fella still checking passport.

Oops.. I thought got some mistake or what when the barrier went up before I put in cash card so I don't think to much and drove thru.

Usually the barrier won't come up and the officer will remind. So far not gotten into trouble.

Jialat.. Really didn't know man...

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  On 9/27/2015 at 12:45 AM, Karoon said:

 

wah... sounds like tank is an inversed pyramid, but with a linear level indicator :D

 

I thought most car tank is like tat? no?

Usually the 1st 1/4 is the furthest millage you can run, be it your car is using the needle or bar type.

After the needle/ bar start to move, it will just get moving faster

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  On 9/27/2015 at 1:09 AM, Icedbs said:

I have doubts over the quality of the petrol in Msia.

 

Many years ago, my previous car pumped Msia petrol mostly. In that 5 years, I had 2 engine trouble, and although cannot pinpoint that it must be caused by the fuel, I never had such issue with my other cars before which pumped only Spore fuel.

 

So today, even when I go into Msia (normally short rides), I never touch their fuel. And if I have to go long distance to Msia, I will fly in and take cab/bus...never drive.

Seriously?

 

Then how do you think all the millions of Malaysian cars run?

 

IF there were a problem, don't you think it would have been talked about / proven long long long ago?

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  On 9/27/2015 at 1:09 AM, Icedbs said:

I have doubts over the quality of the petrol in Msia.

 

Many years ago, my previous car pumped Msia petrol mostly. In that 5 years, I had 2 engine trouble, and although cannot pinpoint that it must be caused by the fuel, I never had such issue with my other cars before which pumped only Spore fuel.

 

So today, even when I go into Msia (normally short rides), I never touch their fuel. And if I have to go long distance to Msia, I will fly in and take cab/bus...never drive.

 

Well, depending on what type of engine trouble you faced.

 

For petrol station that has low volume of transaction, heresay petrol kiosk will add kerosene. That will immediately give engine trouble.

 

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  On 9/28/2015 at 2:43 AM, Davidtch said:

 

Well, depending on what type of engine trouble you faced.

 

For petrol station that has low volume of transaction, heresay petrol kiosk will add kerosene. That will immediately give engine trouble.

 

I wouldn't totally discount it -

But I have trouble believing without solid proof.

 

1. To add the sort of volume that would make a difference is pretty hard - when I was working managing a petrol kiosk our standard delivery (and we were a small station) would be 30,000 litres - the tank capacity was typically 60-80k litres

2. To add enough kerosine to register is "difficult" - you're not talking a few 40 gallon drums here

3. If it was done - the problems would show up quickly - so it would be easy to trace to a specific station

4. The kerosine would "hang around" in the storage tank for a very long time (i.e - once added a % of the storage tank will always be kerosine) so it would be easy for people to find out simply by taking a sample of the petrol.

 

Like I say - I wouldn't totally discount, as people have got almost infinite ingenuity when it comes to cheating, but the skeptic in me would lead me to think that there would be other simpler culprits if people are experiencing problems -

My most likely would be sediment in the fuel.

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  On 9/28/2015 at 2:43 AM, Davidtch said:

 

Well, depending on what type of engine trouble you faced.

 

For petrol station that has low volume of transaction, heresay petrol kiosk will add kerosene. That will immediately give engine trouble.

 

I think as long as you pump at the official kiosk, your engine will not have problem with the petrol the kiosk sells. :)

  On 9/28/2015 at 3:47 AM, Darryn said:

I wouldn't totally discount it -

But I have trouble believing without solid proof.

 

1. To add the sort of volume that would make a difference is pretty hard - when I was working managing a petrol kiosk our standard delivery (and we were a small station) would be 30,000 litres - the tank capacity was typically 60-80k litres

2. To add enough kerosine to register is "difficult" - you're not talking a few 40 gallon drums here

3. If it was done - the problems would show up quickly - so it would be easy to trace to a specific station

4. The kerosine would "hang around" in the storage tank for a very long time (i.e - once added a % of the storage tank will always be kerosine) so it would be easy for people to find out simply by taking a sample of the petrol.

 

Like I say - I wouldn't totally discount, as people have got almost infinite ingenuity when it comes to cheating, but the skeptic in me would lead me to think that there would be other simpler culprits if people are experiencing problems -

My most likely would be sediment in the fuel.

You have valid point. :)

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  On 9/28/2015 at 6:10 AM, Tkseah said:

sometimes we approach the causeway with 3/4 tank.. but jam and jam.. by the time we reach custom office left slightly more than 1/2 tank.. [bigcry]

 

1/4 tank burn during jam. Must be a really really bad jam

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  On 9/27/2015 at 1:09 AM, Icedbs said:

I have doubts over the quality of the petrol in Msia.

 

Many years ago, my previous car pumped Msia petrol mostly. In that 5 years, I had 2 engine trouble, and although cannot pinpoint that it must be caused by the fuel, I never had such issue with my other cars before which pumped only Spore fuel.

 

So today, even when I go into Msia (normally short rides), I never touch their fuel. And if I have to go long distance to Msia, I will fly in and take cab/bus...never drive.

I think it's not the quality of the fuel but the maintaince of the fuel storage tank filter. Just like our petrol filter in our tanks, after a while the filter and is trapped with impurities.
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I got this issue with my previous Mit Lancer, Sonata NF and the current Sonata NF facelift.

 

3 separate cars but always present the same problem when i top up Jbee Petrol.

 

The Engine Check Light will always for sure 100% light up.

 

When i pump Singapore petrol.....the engine check light will never light up. NEVER.

 

Its common that most of the Spore WS will tell you Jbee Petrol is dirty.......why and how nobody knows......lol.

 

  On 9/27/2015 at 1:09 AM, Icedbs said:

I have doubts over the quality of the petrol in Msia.

 

Many years ago, my previous car pumped Msia petrol mostly. In that 5 years, I had 2 engine trouble, and although cannot pinpoint that it must be caused by the fuel, I never had such issue with my other cars before which pumped only Spore fuel.

 

So today, even when I go into Msia (normally short rides), I never touch their fuel. And if I have to go long distance to Msia, I will fly in and take cab/bus...never drive.

 

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Malaysia fuel should not pose an issue for many.

 

For those short day trips, you enter with 3/4 tank, at most you use 1/2 tank petrol. You still have 1/4 tank of "clean" petrol from Singapore to mix with "dirty" petrol from Singapore.

 

So far I have not heard of anyone driving Singapore registered cars giving Malaysia petrol a miss, and driving back with an empty tank.

 

But I salute such motorists. Thank you for your contribution towards nation building.:mellow:

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cheap petrol = dirty petrol

pay $1 more per litre = clean petrol

 

When I drive my little Getz around MY for a week or two, obviously pumping MY petrol, it didn't get warning signs or whatsoever.

Maybe I'm lucky.

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Next, someone will say their seafood not clean, not fresh, every time after a seafood meal, sure lausai... But that seafood restaurant has been around for many donkey years and don't know how many people eat everyday...ummm....[laugh]

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  On 9/28/2015 at 6:53 AM, Hiphiphoray said:

I got this issue with my previous Mit Lancer, Sonata NF and the current Sonata NF facelift.

 

3 separate cars but always present the same problem when i top up Jbee Petrol.

 

The Engine Check Light will always for sure 100% light up.

 

When i pump Singapore petrol.....the engine check light will never light up. NEVER.

 

Its common that most of the Spore WS will tell you Jbee Petrol is dirty.......why and how nobody knows......lol.

 

 

Yeh, and I'm pretty sure ALL Malaysian vehicles are having their engine check line on as we speak.
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  On 2/9/2016 at 1:53 AM, Vinceng said:

Malaysia fuel should not pose an issue for many.

 

For those short day trips, you enter with 3/4 tank, at most you use 1/2 tank petrol. You still have 1/4 tank of "clean" petrol from Singapore to mix with "dirty" petrol from Singapore.

 

So far I have not heard of anyone driving Singapore registered cars giving Malaysia petrol a miss, and driving back with an empty tank.

 

But I salute such motorists. Thank you for your contribution towards nation building.:mellow:

Yes, I have a friend that dont pump Malaysia petrol ..citing it will dirty the petrol filter. He said he was advised by his car mechanic.

But , to each his own.... And it is his own $...lol

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  On 2/9/2016 at 1:53 AM, Vinceng said:

Malaysia fuel should not pose an issue for many.

 

For those short day trips, you enter with 3/4 tank, at most you use 1/2 tank petrol. You still have 1/4 tank of "clean" petrol from Singapore to mix with "dirty" petrol from Singapore.

 

So far I have not heard of anyone driving Singapore registered cars giving Malaysia petrol a miss, and driving back with an empty tank.

 

But I salute such motorists. Thank you for your contribution towards nation building. :mellow:

 

I had my engine warning light came on for the first time after pumping petron 100  into my 9 yr old car.

 

Been pumping jb petrol past 9 years (even received an ica -$100 'award' for < 3/4 tank) with this car and no such problem before.

 

also there's a guy here who claimed he never ever fill up tank when in jb, always in sg.

maybe he's an spc shareholder, or pump manager here. :D

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  On 2/9/2016 at 3:42 AM, Credor said:

Yes, I have a friend that dont pump Malaysia petrol ..citing it will dirty the petrol filter. He said he was advised by his car mechanic.

But , to each his own.... And it is his own $...lol

Petrol filter is an consumable item. Do your friend skip this step?
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