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Mason016

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  On 2/28/2017 at 1:13 AM, johankassim81 said:

The govt did say b4 that they wanted to tax us based on our usage which is why they are investing in this new erp system to make it possible to tax every km we travel the moment we drive out of our house. Isn't the govt contradicting themselves if they just implement the new erp without reducing the fix cost of owning a car?

 

Cost of ownership is tied to COE, RF, ARF and excise tax.  Cost of use is ERP or soon to be distance based charging. 

 

High cost of ownership and low cost of use has led to our current situation so its quite easy to conclude what LTA will do. 

 

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Black6

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  On 2/28/2017 at 1:13 AM, johankassim81 said:

The govt did say b4 that they wanted to tax us based on our usage which is why they are investing in this new erp system to make it possible to tax every km we travel the moment we drive out of our house. Isn't the govt contradicting themselves if they just implement the new erp without reducing the fix cost of owning a car?

Do you remember on the curb of the 50 precent downpayment so as to help reduce car ownership. That only happened a few years and as the car market purchasing power lowered, they quickly reverse it and allow 30 percent downpayment now. Does that not contradicting? The best is fixed the public transport issue. With MRT breakdown rate so high, economy is at a downturn and putting more cost to the consumers, why would introducing satellite road pricing becomes a priority. 

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Nzy

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Good way to boost the economy. Now the companies supplying the EPS gantries at the carparks can upgrade all of them to the new system.

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  On 2/28/2017 at 1:38 AM, Black6 said:

Do you remember on the curb of the 50 precent downpayment so as to help reduce car ownership. That only happened a few years and as the car market purchasing power lowered, they quickly reverse it and allow 30 percent downpayment now. Does that not contradicting? The best is fixed the public transport issue. With MRT breakdown rate so high, economy is at a downturn and putting more cost to the consumers, why would introducing satellite road pricing becomes a priority. 

Fixing the public transport issue and ensuring that public transport is reliable is always not their plan. Their plan all the while is only target on cars lo.

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Wyfitms

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  On 2/28/2017 at 1:38 AM, Black6 said:

Do you remember on the curb of the 50 precent downpayment so as to help reduce car ownership. That only happened a few years and as the car market purchasing power lowered, they quickly reverse it and allow 30 percent downpayment now. Does that not contradicting? The best is fixed the public transport issue. With MRT breakdown rate so high, economy is at a downturn and putting more cost to the consumers, why would introducing satellite road pricing becomes a priority.

It's not contradicting if u know the priority is to sustain high coe for revenue
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Black6

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  On 2/28/2017 at 1:59 AM, Wyfitms said:

It's not contradicting if u know the priority is to sustain high coe for revenue

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inlinesix

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  On 2/28/2017 at 1:07 AM, Watwheels said:

I'm still thinking whether they will remove the gantries? They might still use it for land-based satelites. As we know all satelites are orbiting in space above us. Anything from tunnels, tall buliding or bad weather it will disrupt/block the satelite signal. And satelite signal requires line of sight to be accurate. I think if you play pokemon go you will realise you are all over the place when the gps do not get an accurate lock. Only when supplemented with wifi or 4G you get a better position fix. Or you are indoors and only have one source of signal lock you will be told no signal or drifiting all over.

 

So in order to get a more accurate fix they must install some radio frequency transmitting device overhead and on land. That may be in the form of wifi or telcom signal to have a good islandwide coverage. Another possibilty is that there might be a sim card in the IU. Maybe have to pay subscription fee. LoL....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_GPS

 

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Eyke

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  On 2/28/2017 at 2:38 AM, Drive said:

Can use tin foil to wrap around IU?

 

cannot detect -> charge $100

 

see still wanna wrap or not  [laugh]

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flashbang

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  On 2/28/2017 at 1:35 AM, Mason016 said:

Cost of ownership is tied to COE, RF, ARF and excise tax. Cost of use is ERP or soon to be distance based charging.

 

High cost of ownership and low cost of use has led to our current situation so its quite easy to conclude what LTA will do.

 

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Yes. They will increase cost of use, but act blur and keep cost of ownership high.
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Showster

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The ideal scenario is for more families who aspire to own to actually own.

 

But can't afford to use all/most/some of the time.

 

All carparks fully utilised.

 

But people who actually use especially during peaks may be taxed too heavily in that model.

 

So a balanced strategy maybe optimal, allowing some more to own but not every person who wants. Then can use it with higher costs but not overwhelming.

 

 

  On 2/28/2017 at 4:54 AM, flashbang said:

Yes. They will increase cost of use, but act blur and keep cost of ownership high.

 

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SuPerBoRed

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  On 2/28/2017 at 4:59 AM, Beanoyip said:

I find it quite pathetic, pay for the Car/COE/road tax, then still have to contemplate whether should use due to other charges/cost involved.

 

yea... and all the while.. the public transportation system is prone to failure .. 

 

next time.. we and FW take public transport.. whilst the rich FTs buy cars to drive and let us envy them

  On 2/28/2017 at 5:12 AM, Showster said:

The ideal scenario is for more families who aspire to own to actually own.

 

But can't afford to use all/most/some of the time.

 

All carparks fully utilised.

 

But people who actually use especially during peaks may be taxed too heavily in that model.

 

So a balanced strategy maybe optimal, allowing some more to own but not every person who wants. Then can use it with higher costs but not overwhelming.

 

Tolong la.. buy car can only use for 10yrs..   now even the 10yrs also need to have strategy of when to use.. 

 

ban la.. just ban all cars la.. period end of story.. 

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Optramagnum

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Soon we will lose the fun of owning a car.. Can only admire our ride in our carpark. Wanna go out must think about this and that.. The minute we Step out of house only, gotta spend $$$..

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Adrianli

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  On 2/28/2017 at 4:24 AM, Beanoyip said:

Distance based charging still at least 5-8yrs away..

 

Errr................today is already 2017. 2020 is just 3 years away. :XD:

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Wyfitms

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  On 2/28/2017 at 5:37 AM, Adrianli said:

Errr................today is already 2017. 2020 is just 3 years away. :XD:

I got a feeling it will be ready by 2019
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