Othello Supersonic March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 (edited) I think they crossed the track to access the junction box on the other side. All the pics shown has misled us thinking they walked along the sidewalk all the time. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/smrt-track-accident-at-pasir-ris-trainee-barely-escaped-as-best-friend-was-killed To reach the point machine, Mr Hatin told The Straits Times, the group had to cross the third rail supplying power to trains - which was still live - to get on the track. "We didn't realise that there was a train coming towards us from this second track, going to our track, the first track," he said. "After I put my foot over the rail my senior technical officer behind shouted: 'Train is coming! Train is coming!'" Mr Hatin saw the train nearing and his friend running towards the sidewalk. Mr Hatin quickly put his foot back on the walkway and hugged the railing................................. Edited March 24, 2016 by Othello ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordanogavin 5th Gear March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 No one knew a train was coming, he recalled. "Our environment up there is different - you wouldn't be able to hear the train coming," he explained, adding that their supervisor had not said anything in the moments before the accident. Just wonder why on the open track unable to hear train approaching? How to explain this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othello Supersonic March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 (edited) comment deleted Edited March 24, 2016 by Othello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 No one knew a train was coming, he recalled. "Our environment up there is different - you wouldn't be able to hear the train coming," he explained, adding that their supervisor had not said anything in the moments before the accident. Just wonder why on the open track unable to hear train approaching? How to explain this? Quite puzzle on this too, the track is straight as shown the photo, in order not to take things for granted (in case the signal guy didn't change the track for incoming train), should have taken cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 No one knew a train was coming, he recalled. "Our environment up there is different - you wouldn't be able to hear the train coming," he explained, adding that their supervisor had not said anything in the moments before the accident. Just wonder why on the open track unable to hear train approaching? How to explain this? My two cents. The MRT is very quiet. Honestly, how many of us hear clearly the MRT approaching the station as opposed to us seeing the train. I don't hear the train as much as I see the train approach. When the train enters the station, the sound is obvious but if I were on the track it would be too late. Add this to the fact that tthere is ambient noise and you were not expecting the train to come. The bigger question is why did they not see it. I believe it is because they were not eexpecting it. I hesitate to use the word complacent because a lot of us are equally guilty. Like how many of us cross the road when the lights are in our favour without constant scanning for dangers? Can be as motorist or pedestrian. The answer is we don't do it as often as we should and that is because we place a lot of faith that everyone will follow the rules. As in here, they were expecting no train to come and hence were not looking for it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Electric powered vehicles tend to be very quiet in comparison. E-scooters for example, you sometimes don't realize one zipping past you. Same goes for the mrt, i guess. Makes situational awareness very important. The large group size also a contributory factor, as there is tendency to expect other people to look out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshe Turbocharged March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 however u look at it, 0.5m is narrow bah. Not much room for error simple, we take basic and advance theory in driving. how much gap do u need to give from the kerb if is there is a bicycle or pedestrain or stationary object? furthermore this is at 60km/h.... 0.5m?? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 No one knew a train was coming, he recalled. "Our environment up there is different - you wouldn't be able to hear the train coming," he explained, adding that their supervisor had not said anything in the moments before the accident. Just wonder why on the open track unable to hear train approaching? How to explain this? Perhaps it's the open air, where noise is dissipitated everywhere, so you can't hear the train coming well. In a tunnel, it's different, noise is focused in a single direction, so you can hear the train much louder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 (edited) My two cents. The MRT is very quiet. Honestly, how many of us hear clearly the MRT approaching the station as opposed to us seeing the train. I don't hear the train as much as I see the train approach. When the train enters the station, the sound is obvious but if I were on the track it would be too late. Add this to the fact that tthere is ambient noise and you were not expecting the train to come. The bigger question is why did they not see it. I believe it is because they were not eexpecting it. I hesitate to use the word complacent because a lot of us are equally guilty. Like how many of us cross the road when the lights are in our favour without constant scanning for dangers? Can be as motorist or pedestrian. The answer is we don't do it as often as we should and that is because we place a lot of faith that everyone will follow the rules. As in here, they were expecting no train to come and hence were not looking for it. The bigger issue here is that the train was crossing over to the 2ND track while approaching pasir ris terminal in auto mode. So the driver probably looked ahead and of course ahead there are no people due to the train is still in the main track, (I assume that due to it is in auto mode, the driver will not know whether the train will continue to go straight or divert to the 2ND track due to at terminal station either platform can be used for incoming train). The train driver didn't think much as it is their daily routine and they had travelled on tracks don't know how many thousands of km already. Then when train were on the way divert to 2ND track, train driver now have vision straight ahead that there are 3 guys on track, they now have only a few seconds to make quick reaction to escape, the 1St guy did it however the 2ND and 3rd guy unfortunately unable to escape. The train driver can't do much at the point already as it is already too near and emergency brake also need to travel some distance in 60km per hour. For the 15 guys on the maintenance platform walking towards the signal box to check for the warning alarm, the leading supervisor probably walked the track countless of time to investigate the warning alarm at various train station and everytime there is no issue. So this time he also expect the same thing. So usually when he on the track, the train will not be diverted to the 2ND track but continue to go straight to the train station. So when he sees train approaching at the other track, he did not think much as he would have assumed that the train will continue the normal straight path, for these trainees behind, of course they just follow, they would have assumed that the leading supervisor knows what he needs to do and thus also thinks the same way the train coming from the other track must be travelling straight and not divert to the 2ND track. All 3 that where in front where in a rude shock when they saw the train at the intersection is not going straight but going to the 2ND track. They need to step out onto the track over the live rail for some reason near the train intersection point. (this one was not explained clearly, as the news state that they need to investigate the warning signal and the box that they are going to investigate is at the maintenance walkway, the picture drawn up also shows at no point in time they will need to get onto the track as the walking path is quite straightforward in the maintenance walkway, but there is also report that they need to cross over to the track to check on something else, so what is the something else that need to be checked beside the box at the maintenance walkway also never mention clearly). So now the focus should be the thing that they need to investigate on the other side which they need to cross over to walk on the track and not the box at the maintenance walkway right? If they only walk on the straight path to the box at the maintenance walkway, nothing would have happened as the train will just pass them like that. Because the news keep focus on the box at maintenance walkway and keep emphasize on that, I believe it confused many people as normal people would have think, they are walking straight path to the box at the maintenance walkway, what why need to step out onto the track? The thing that they need to investigate will be, the need to walk on the track a very last minute thing or they knew it way before they step onto the the maintenance walkway. Those last minute thing have greater tendency to make errors as they need to make decisions fast and may overlooked on the safety expect. If it is not last minute that they need to step onto track then it is very worrying that in procedure wise there is already a problem. So now perhaps, the team who draft out safety procedure may need to split out to 2 parts, one is normal procedure, while walking to on the maintenance walkway or on the track. Another one will be at any point that they need to deviate from the planned path or planned list of things to do, they will have another list that they need to check, many would have repeated, but it's a good reminder also. Edited March 24, 2016 by Yewheng Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 Words of wisdom, from facebook. To the world you are just a person. To a company you are just an employee. The day you resign, your work cubicle will be replaced. Your absence missed for a day then the company forgets you. They went on to make their money for they need to, and they have no time to grieve because of the expectations they have to fulfil. Occasionally they make mistakes and it may come with a price, you have to pay. This is why, my friends, do not mix work with family. Do not take your work home, cast your family aside and forget about giving time to your children. Because in their hearts you are never replaced, because when you are gone, everyday you will be missed. If anything happen to you, it will be your family and friends crying like crazy for you. Because to them, even though you are just one person, you are their world. So reset your prorities. Be a good worker but be a better father/mother/friend/daughter/son. #heartbreak 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 Words of wisdom, from facebook. To the world you are just a person. To a company you are just an employee. The day you resign, your work cubicle will be replaced. Your absence missed for a day then the company forgets you. They went on to make their money for they need to, and they have no time to grieve because of the expectations they have to fulfil. Occasionally they make mistakes and it may come with a price, you have to pay. This is why, my friends, do not mix work with family. Do not take your work home, cast your family aside and forget about giving time to your children. Because in their hearts you are never replaced, because when you are gone, everyday you will be missed. If anything happen to you, it will be your family and friends crying like crazy for you. Because to them, even though you are just one person, you are their world. So reset your prorities. Be a good worker but be a better father/mother/friend/daughter/son. #heartbreak Woah.... nice one! [thumbsup] 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 Woah.... nice one! [thumbsup] From this chio lady. https://www.facebook.com/leza.parker.9?fref=nf&pnref=story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinobii Hypersonic March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 Words of wisdom, from facebook. To the world you are just a person. To a company you are just an employee. The day you resign, your work cubicle will be replaced. Your absence missed for a day then the company forgets you. They went on to make their money for they need to, and they have no time to grieve because of the expectations they have to fulfil. Occasionally they make mistakes and it may come with a price, you have to pay. This is why, my friends, do not mix work with family. Do not take your work home, cast your family aside and forget about giving time to your children. Because in their hearts you are never replaced, because when you are gone, everyday you will be missed. If anything happen to you, it will be your family and friends crying like crazy for you. Because to them, even though you are just one person, you are their world. So reset your prorities. Be a good worker but be a better father/mother/friend/daughter/son. #heartbreak yeah, words of wisdom indeed, that's y i quit being a workaholic some months back time to ownself sayang ownself 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 yeah, words of wisdom indeed, that's y i quit being a workaholic some months back time to ownself sayang ownself Which part? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktglfc Hypersonic March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 Words of wisdom, from facebook. To the world you are just a person. To a company you are just an employee. The day you resign, your work cubicle will be replaced. Your absence missed for a day then the company forgets you. They went on to make their money for they need to, and they have no time to grieve because of the expectations they have to fulfil. Occasionally they make mistakes and it may come with a price, you have to pay. This is why, my friends, do not mix work with family. Do not take your work home, cast your family aside and forget about giving time to your children. Because in their hearts you are never replaced, because when you are gone, everyday you will be missed. If anything happen to you, it will be your family and friends crying like crazy for you. Because to them, even though you are just one person, you are their world. So reset your prorities. Be a good worker but be a better father/mother/friend/daughter/son. #heartbreak Thank you, Bro :)) Nice wisdom .... it's always good to pause awhile in life and relook at our priorities in life ... To me, family always come first ... No buts, no ifs... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckduck Turbocharged March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 If anything happen to you, it will be your family and friends crying like crazy for you. Because to them, even though you are just one person, you are their world. depends coz if all u did was work n ignored family, when u die dont be surprised some of your family members wont shed a tear for u. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 depends coz if all u did was work n ignored family, when u die dont be surprised some of your family members wont shed a tear for u. You took this sentence out of context...haha. Yep, they will be happy can have your CPF money liao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckduck Turbocharged March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 You took this sentence out of context...haha. Yep, they will be happy can have your CPF money liao. but its true that not everyone will cry at your funeral ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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