ALL consolidated SMRT/NEL/KT.. simisai BREAKDOWNS here!

[Beregond]

I find some of the argument damn funny,

 

 

suddenly it become the customer or user that is us, that have to shoulder some fault?

 

so next time when mrt break down ( which is becoming a norm now ) 

no 1 must complain, all keep quiet and accept it, cos the maintenance crew face high risk, if they go fix the fault during day time.

 

like that I think for 50 % of the ceo pay is enough, every bro and sister here will raise hand can take over any time.

 

[Joseph22]

 

ha ha ha .... wah, damn freaky, this reply is what I think he will say (really ! sompah ) ......

 

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then my question is - who manages the Bukit Panjang LRT Line ??

 

 

 

You must understand. Maybe when we Google Mrt fatal accident LRT might not show up.

[Mustank]

 

I find some of the argument damn funny,

 

 

suddenly it become the customer or user that is us, that have to shoulder some fault?

 

so next time when mrt break down ( which is becoming a norm now )

 

no 1 must complain, all keep quiet and accept it, cos the maintenance crew face high risk, if they go fix the fault during day time.

 

like that I think for 50 % of the ceo pay is enough, every bro and sister here will raise hand can take over any time.

Not everybody got the ability to kee chiu you know

[Joseph22]

Not everybody got the ability to kee chiu you know

I nominate u take over.

[Coltplussport]

can only say his self-preservation instinct is too strong to be overcome by call of duty.

There might not be enough time for him to react at all. Think the first thing all of them did was to jump to the side to avoid the train. But all but 2 jumped to the walkway, while 2 jump to the side walk on the other side.

 

RIP

[Mustank]

I nominate u take over.

Already got kee chiu Liao lah

[Joseph22]

Already got kee chiu Liao lah

This is democratic country. We just need to give U more vote.

[Othello]

There might not be enough time for him to react at all. Think the first thing all of them did was to jump to the side to avoid the train. But all but 2 jumped to the walkway, while 2 jump to the side walk on the other side.

 

RIP

 

can i have this link please. Thanks

 

really puzzling then, why they jumped opposite direction 

[Coltplussport]

can i have this link please. Thanks

 

really puzzling then, why they jumped opposite direction

Sorry, think I confuse also. Refer to count duku post on page 141. It says that the superviser in front jumped towards the walkway and squat down. Also mentioned that he saw the 2 victims running towards the sidewalk.

 

So sidewalk=walkway?

 

Why 2 younger and agile biker couldn't out run a superviser?

 

I gave up.

[RadX]

jialat...negligence?    

 

 

SMRT acknowledges safety procedure not followed before fatal accident

 

Before the team is allowed to step on the trackway, it must coordinate with the Signal unit for oncoming trains to be brought to a stop, but this did not take place, SMRT says.

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SINGAPORE: SMRT has acknowledged procedure was not followed in the lead-up to an accident which killed two of its trainee staff on Tuesday (Mar 22). It also released a timeline of events before the tragedy.

According to safety procedures, before the team can step on the trackway, it must coordinate with the Signal unit at the station for oncoming trains to be brought to a stop, and to ensure that no trains enter the affected area. However, SMRT noted that its records do not show that this procedure took place. 

This echoes a point made by SMRT CEO Desmond Kuek and its Managing Director for Trains Lee Ling Wee at a press conference on Tuesday, where they confirmed the incident happened before the team made the necessary contact to turn power off on the tracks. The reason for this is the subject of investigations, they said.

“Exactly how they got on to the track, or got close enough to the oncoming train, that was moving in the direction opposite to them, is the issue that we’re trying to establish with the witnesses that we are trying to get detailed accounts from,” said Mr Kuek on Tuesday. 

SMRT TIMELINE OF EVENTS

The transport operator's timeline of events is as follows:

• At 8.08am
   on Tuesday (Mar 22), a signalling condition monitoring device installed along the tracks near Pasir Ris MRT Station registered a warning.
  
  
   
• At 10.54am
  , authorisation was granted for the Permanent Way team and the Signal team to move down from the station platform, cross the track, and access the maintenance walkway in order to proceed to the location of the device.
  
  
   
• The 15 members comprised 1 engineer, 5 assistant engineers, 5 technical officers and 4 trainees. Led by an experienced assistant engineer, they moved in a single file along the maintenance walkway (of approximately 0.5 metre width) beside the track toward the device location. They followed the safety procedure of walking in the direction facing oncoming train traffic.
  
  
   
• The two staff that died - Nasrulhudin and Muhammad Asyraf - were following immediately behind the lead assistant engineer.
  
  
   
• Before the team is allowed to step back on to the trackway, the following procedure must be carried out: The team must coordinate with the Signal unit at the station for oncoming trains to be brought to a stop and to ensure that no trains enter the affected sector. SMRT records do not show that this procedure took place, it said.
  
  
   
• Pasir Ris MRT station is a terminal station with two platforms. Trains arriving at Pasir Ris can berth at either platform. Trains can cross from one track to the other as they approach the station. In this accident, the train moving in automatic mode was routed to Platform 2. When the train captain saw staff on the track, he immediately applied emergency brakes but was unable to prevent the accident.
  
  
   
• The accident took place at 
  11.08am
   and was immediately reported to the Operations Control Centre

An SMRT spokesman told Channel NewsAsia on Wednesday that the company is unable to confirm if the victims were on the trackway or on the walkway when they were hit, or if anyone in the group had deviated from the walkway at any point in time.

SMRT said this is the first time a fatality involving SMRT staff has happened on the North-South East-West Lines. It has established a team to immediately evaluate all workplace safety procedures and has also instituted mandatory work-team level safety reviews.

Questions have been raised on why staff were on the track to investigate an alarm while trains were running. SMRT said: "Delivering a high level of reliability in our network is a priority and maintenance has to be carried out during service hours to ensure this. Whenever there is a warning registered along the network during train service, maintenance staff are given track access to investigate the cause.

An average of two to three such authorisations are given each day, it said. "At no time do we compromise the safety of staff and commuters in our efforts to keep up the required service standards," SMRT added. "Safety procedures are in place and we are mindful that these need to be followed closely as they are intended for staff and commuter well-being and protection."

SMRT said it is continuing to support police and the Ministry of Manpower in investigations. "We take responsibility and apologise for the tragic accident," it stated.

 

[13177]

Even safety procedure not followed, still don't understand why the train hit only the 2nd and 3rd guy?!

[Ktglfc]

he saw , he siam. human instinct. 

 

maybe they took for granted that they were cleared, hence never check for traffic (like we pedestrian will look left & right before crossing the road) 

 

Basic human instinct ... can't blame this assistant engineer ...

Even safety procedure not followed, still don't understand why the train hit only the 2nd and 3rd guy?!

 

Probably they didn't walk on the side walkway, rather they thought no train, and walked on the tracks ...

and when train did come, they jumped onto the side walkway.... however, these 2 staff may not have reacted in time ...

 

Just my hunch ...

anyway they would have finished their investigations, at least the interviews with the other 13 staffs... and they would have know what happened by now ...

Let's wait for their further news...

[Duckduck]

Even safety procedure not followed, still don't understand why the train hit only the 2nd and 3rd guy?!

 

coz they got onto the tracks. for some reason none of them saw the huge a$$ train coming until too late... 

 

IMO the moment they get authorization for track access, the train must be auto stopped. y so many layers of authorization required, more chance of mistake

[Jman888]

Even safety procedure not followed, still don't understand why the train hit only the 2nd and 3rd guy?!

 

 

the first 3 walk on the main track while approaching the junction box and ready to open it up for inspection, didn't realise that they have not communicate with the control centre to signal the incoming train, the first guy saw and manage to cross over but the 2 behind didn't.

 

i guess the rest of the team behind are still on the side track.

[Vratenza]

 

 

The 15 members comprised 1 engineer, 5 assistant engineers, 5 technical officers and 4 trainees.

 

 

Question: Why is there a need for 15 people to check out one signal fault?

- Which of the 15 were essential?

- Did they bring tools to repair?

- Are they prepared to repair on the spot?

 

If they have no intention of repairing (they have no idea what is the cause anyway), doesn't it make sense to have the minimum number of staff required to do a hazardous job?

 

I understand the need for on the job training, but there is no need for a school excursion. Maybe those in this field can enlighten the rationale behind such a protocol.

[13177]

the first 3 walk on the main track while approaching the junction box and ready to open it up for inspection, didn't realise that they have not communicate with the control centre to signal the incoming train, the first guy saw and manage to cross over but the 2 behind didn't.

 

i guess the rest of the team behind are still on the side track.

If 3 of them already reached the junction box and ready to open it, and maybe 2 of them were standing near or on the track, it does make some sense why the train hit them liao. I always thought all of them were still walking single file along the walkway towards the box, and then the train hit the 2nd and 3rd guy?!

[Gizmore]

I would think the procedure should be all trains must be stopped or signalled to stop before any authorization be given to allow any personnel on the track. 

[13177]

I would think the procedure should be all trains must be stopped or signalled to stop before any authorization be given to allow any personnel on the track. 

I guess this is the critical part that was not done, that's why such tragic accident can happened. Maybe the maintenance team that went down the track thought the train would stop or already informed, and maybe that's why the 2nd and 3rd guy might stand close or on the track. And then they were caught off guard when a train approached them.

Edited March 24, 2016 by 13177