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[Christan]

Saw needs to shoulder her share of blame for the situation, but she is not the sole culprit, though I'm sure many in the establishment would LLLUUURRRVVVV to have that idea planted deeply in the public mind.

However, Desmond and his backers doesn't deserve any slack or excuses at all.

Putting a serving General and his team in charge of a listed transport Co facing serious engineering problems cannot be called a "commercial" decision... not sure it can even be called "rational".

I remember the General replace some of SMRT management with his Army people. There were questions raised during that time. whether these army people with no background can run SMRT

 

News reported that Harakiri Khaw & Mr Yakult attended the funeral of both men's funeral but no mention of Desmond or his SMRT kakis. If true, can't blame SMRT staffs for TL with this paper general.

Edited March 24, 2016 by Christan

[Neost]

I read in papers some of SMRT staff were disappointed with the Company responses to this accident.  

 

I suppose some may resign over this. Just when we need to boost the engineering team and this happens. No sure which direction we are heading now

[Iceman81]

The link to the straits time report with the 5th person in line.

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/smrt-track-accident-at-pasir-ris-trainee-barely-escaped-as-best-friend-was-killed

 

No one knew a train was coming, he recalled. "Our environment up there is different - you wouldn't be able to hear the train coming," he explained, adding that their supervisor had not said anything in the moments before the accident.

 

Hmm....does this indicate that sup does not know and the people in the control center never inform the team when they should have a schedule of the incoming trains.

[Othello]

This clearly reflects what kinda person you are. Period.

 

I wouldn't suggest someone to tell the aggrieved parent anything. I would rather give them peace and leave them alone.

 

What I was trying to say is not to cause unneccessary alarm as it is not helping anyone. Your comments speak for itself.

 

blah blah blah... so what kind of person I am may I ask ? 

 

I'm causing unnecessary alarm? you felt alarmed? 

Edited March 24, 2016 by Othello

[Othello]

despite Saw the civilian's gross incompetence, no staff ever died under her watch, after general Desmond brought his SAF culture into MRT, 2 men died under his watch

 

have lah .... 

 

Track accident

The last fatal accident involving SMRT employees was in 2010.

A technician was hit by an LRT train while attending to a fault on the track.The 48-year-old was at a designated walkway, checking the power rail between Bukit Panjang and Phoenix stations, when an oncoming train hit him at Phoenix station.

He suffered injuries to his head and legs and died 12 days later without emerging from a coma.

The technician, who had been with SMRT for 11 years, left behind a wife and three daughters.

[Goldbug]

Saw needs to shoulder her share of blame for the situation, but she is not the sole culprit, though I'm sure many in the establishment would LLLUUURRRVVVV to have that idea planted deeply in the public mind.

However, Desmond and his backers doesn't deserve any slack or excuses at all.

Putting a serving General and his team in charge of a listed transport Co facing serious engineering problems cannot be called a "commercial" decision... not sure it can even be called "rational".

 

Khaw will give Desmond stern warning and reprimand like what Gan did with SGH?

 

have lah .... 

 

Track accident

The last fatal accident involving SMRT employees was in 2010.

A technician was hit by an LRT train while attending to a fault on the track.The 48-year-old was at a designated walkway, checking the power rail between Bukit Panjang and Phoenix stations, when an oncoming train hit him at Phoenix station.

He suffered injuries to his head and legs and died 12 days later without emerging from a coma.

The technician, who had been with SMRT for 11 years, left behind a wife and three daughters.

 

 

lagi best

repeat of the same type of accident

Edited March 24, 2016 by Goldbug

[Mustank]

I read in papers some of SMRT staff were disappointed with the Company responses to this accident.

 

I suppose some may resign over this. Just when we need to boost the engineering team and this happens. No sure which direction we are heading now

How to resign? where can they go?

Still got mortgage, kids, parents

Hard lah

Most will just suck it up and continue

This is why last time Goh CT got say actively disengaged people

[Othello]

The link to the straits time report with the 5th person in line.

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/smrt-track-accident-at-pasir-ris-trainee-barely-escaped-as-best-friend-was-killed

 

No one knew a train was coming, he recalled. "Our environment up there is different - you wouldn't be able to hear the train coming," he explained, adding that their supervisor had not said anything in the moments before the accident.

 

Hmm....does this indicate that sup does not know and the people in the control center never inform the team when they should have a schedule of the incoming trains.

 

so many parties at fault  a very avoidable incident

[Staff69]

I remember the General replace some of SMRT management with his Army people. There were questions raised during that time. whether these army people with no background can run SMRT

 

News reported that Harakiri Khaw & Mr Yakult attended the funeral of both men's funeral but no mention of Desmond or his SMRT kakis. If true, can't blame SMRT staffs for TL with this paper general.

 

 

khaw attended because he said sh it online and people f him up

 

so he better action action

[Othello]

 

lagi best

repeat of the same type of accident

 

but some people say no mishap wor 

 

 

 

Seriously I look at such comments I do not know what to say. The railway tracks are built back in the 80s to 90s, maintainence crew have been in and out of it for so many years w/o mishap. In this case something must have happened out of the norm for it to cause death.

 

I think ppl need to relax and chill. Just wait for the detail investigation report and not blow things up for no good reason. For ppl to go OMG or get angry won't help anyone. Let ppl do their job to find out what actually happen.

 

 

Edited March 24, 2016 by Othello

[Dleodleo]

Read in Straits times that another survived trainee mentioned that:

 

No one knew the train was coming.  This survived trainee was in the fifth and when the senior officers behind shouted train is coming train is coming, everyone quickly run, he quickly run to the sidewalk and grab the railway.  The supervisor behind the deceased quickly jumped to the sidewalk and squatted down.  when he turned to look at his friends, he saw Nasruidhubin was crushed under the train and Aysraf's body flew over him and flunged 50m.

 

No one knew that the train was coming.  The supervisors have not said anything in the moments before the accidents.  The person in charge knows the system because they are more senior than us.  Our job was to observe.

 

 

Straits time also mentioned that :  No one know how the senior officer who was in front of them escape.

 

So my question is how he escape and why he didn't inform the deceased of the oncoming train or guide them to safety.  Since he is the first person in the row, shouldn't he be hit first? 

[Philipkee]

Is this logical at all?

 

The other 13 people around were looking at the scenery instead?

Perhaps they really cannot confirm.

 

Example. I know what happened. Unfortunately what I say will have very big implications. Maybe the deceased will get condemned. Maybe my supervisor will get condemned and career ruined. And I may get myself enemies and career ruined AND I cannot say with full certainty. I will also say not sure.

 

Neutral example. I saw a tiko ranger chatting up with a girl. The TR is my friend. His wife ask me what is going on between TR and the girl. 99% I know its flirting but I know I say out can end up divorce and I am not 100% sure. So I will say, I don't know.

 

My two cents

 

Same here.

 

And one more thing. In Singapore, sometimes we look down in blue collar workers or people down the education chain but we forget that their jobs are also not easy. This is evidenced by the pay scale where people in lower echelons tend to be paid lower but the risks to life and limb are higher.

[Othello]

 

So my question is how he escape and why he didn't inform the deceased of the oncoming train or guide them to safety.  Since he is the first person in the row, shouldn't he be hit first? 

 

he saw , he siam. human instinct. 

 

maybe they took for granted that they were cleared, hence never check for traffic (like we pedestrian will look left & right before crossing the road) 

[Goldbug]

but some people say no mishap wor 

 

 

 

mishap mishap

[Joseph22]

but some people say no mishap wor

 

 

Totally out of context lah. He say MRT that one is LRT.

[Vratenza]

 

So my question is how he escape and why he didn't inform the deceased of the oncoming train or guide them to safety.  Since he is the first person in the row, shouldn't he be hit first? 

 

can only say his self-preservation instinct is too strong to be overcome by call of duty.

[Mustank]

Read in Straits times that another survived trainee mentioned that:

 

No one knew the train was coming. This survived trainee was in the fifth and when the senior officers behind shouted train is coming train is coming, everyone quickly run, he quickly run to the sidewalk and grab the railway. The supervisor behind the deceased quickly jumped to the sidewalk and squatted down. when he turned to look at his friends, he saw Nasruidhubin was crushed under the train and Aysraf's body flew over him and flunged 50m.

 

No one knew that the train was coming. The supervisors have not said anything in the moments before the accidents. The person in charge knows the system because they are more senior than us. Our job was to observe.

 

 

Straits time also mentioned that : No one know how the senior officer who was in front of them escape.

 

So my question is how he escape and why he didn't inform the deceased of the oncoming train or guide them to safety. Since he is the first person in the row, shouldn't he be hit first?

Lao jiao liao, of course take cover skill is there

[Othello]

Totally out of context lah. He say MRT that one is LRT.

 

ha ha ha .... wah, damn freaky, this reply is what I think he will say (really ! sompah  )  ...... 

 

 

then my question is - who manages the Bukit Panjang LRT Line ??