CNA: US Marines Urinate On Dead Insurgents

[Vulcann]

These d*mn Yankees keep scr*wing things up and such infuriating stunts will only further provoke the insurgents and other radicals even more, making this already turbulent world even more unstable.

 

Ended up who suffer?

 

Folks like you and me loh...

 

Example: The stepping up of security checks everywhere making it more more costly for both travel/business and these costs filter down to us eventually.

 

One of our very own, a sweet lady was even killed in India as a result of some suicidal radicals some time back.

 

The Marines are previously well-known for their discipline and aggressiveness in battle but sadly since LHO shot JFK, their reputation seem to take a hit henceforth...

 

From CNA:

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp...1176484/1/.html

 

US Marines urinate on dead insurgents

Posted: 13 January 2012 0750 hrs

 

WASHINGTON: A video purportedly showing US Marines urinating on dead insurgents in Afghanistan prompted American condemnation and a Pentagon probe Thursday, but the Taliban said peace efforts would continue.

 

A senior US military official said the Marines believed they had identified the unit at the centre of the allegations, which evoked memories of previous abuses committed by US troops in Iraq and during the decade-long Afghan war.

 

"We cannot release the name of the unit at this time since the incident is being investigated," a spokesman from the Marines said, referring to images that could spark outrage and unrest in Afghanistan and the wider Muslim world.

 

US cable network CNN quoted an unnamed US Marine official as saying the military branch was "confident" the troops in the inflammatory video were from the 3rd Battalion 2nd Marine Regiment, based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

 

The unit deployed to Afghanistan, mainly in Helmand province, in early 2011 and returned in September or October, CNN reported.

 

The video appeared to show four servicemen urinating on three bloodied corpses, and one of the men, apparently aware he was being filmed, saying: "Have a great day, buddy," referring to one of the dead.

 

US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta pledged that "those found to have engaged in such conduct will be held accountable to the fullest extent," and a Pentagon spokesman confirmed a probe into the alleged abuse was under way.

 

"This conduct is entirely inappropriate for members of the United States military and does not reflect the standards or values our armed forces are sworn to uphold," Panetta said in a statement.

 

"I have seen the footage, and I find the behaviour depicted in it utterly deplorable. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms."

 

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters of her "total dismay at the story concerning our Marines," and joined Panetta in condemning "the deplorable behaviour that is reflected in this video."

 

"It is absolutely inconsistent with American values, with the standards of behaviour that we expect from our military personnel," Clinton said.

 

The Taliban, who have made recent moves toward talks to end 10 years of US-led war in the impoverished country, described the apparent abuse as "an inhumane and savage act by the American soldiers in Afghanistan."

 

But spokesman Zabihullah Mujahed said he did not think it would destroy tentative peace negotiations with the United States, "which at this stage are mainly about prisoner exchange".

 

Earlier in the day, the insurgents issued another statement supporting talks to end the war against US-led forces, while warning that this did not mean surrender.

 

The Pentagon says it has not yet verified the footage, which has been broadcast by leading Afghan television station Tolo News and posted on the Live Leak website.

 

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in a statement that the government of Afghanistan was "deeply disturbed" at the desecration.

 

"This act by American soldiers is simply inhuman and condemnable in the strongest possible terms," he said, requesting that the US urgently investigate and "apply the most severe punishment" to anyone found guilty.

 

On the subject of peace talks, the Taliban, who have announced their readiness to open a political office in Qatar, said they had increased their "political efforts to come to mutual understanding with the world."

 

"But this understanding does not mean a surrender from jihad and neither is it connected to an acceptance of the constitution of the stooge Kabul administration," the hardline Islamists said in a statement received by AFP.

 

"But rather the Islamic Emirate (the Taliban) is utilising its political wing alongside its military presence and jihad in order to realise the national and Islamic aspirations of the nation and its martyrs."

 

The United States earlier announced that it would send a senior official to meet Karzai next week to see if he will agree to a resumption of preliminary talks with the Taliban. A US official said the talks could open within weeks.

 

A key Washington demand for any progress in negotiations is that the Taliban accept the Afghan constitution, which mandates protection for the rights of women and minorities, which were stifled during Taliban rule from 1996 to 2001.

 

Another crucial element would be a renunciation of violence by the Taliban and a break with Al-Qaeda and other "terrorist" groups, the US says.

 

- AFP/wk

[Unidentified]

insurgent and terrorist alike deserve to be pissed upon.

good job marines!we salute you!

[KARTer]

Putting aside whether its right or wrong to pee this way, the marine could be taking 'revenge' for his fellow mariens who were tortured/killed by the deads before his eyes ....

 

These d*mn Yankees keep scr*wing things up and such infuriating stunts will only further provoke the insurgents and other radicals even more, making this already turbulent world even more unstable.

 

Ended up who suffer?

 

Folks like you and me loh...

 

Example: The stepping up of security checks everywhere making it more more costly for both travel/business and these costs filter down to us eventually.

 

One of our very own, a sweet lady was even killed in India as a result of some suicidal radicals some time back.

 

The Marines are previously well-known for their discipline and aggressiveness in battle but sadly since LHO shot JFK, their reputation seem to take a hit henceforth...

 

From CNA:

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp...1176484/1/.html

 

US Marines urinate on dead insurgents

Posted: 13 January 2012 0750 hrs

 

WASHINGTON: A video purportedly showing US Marines urinating on dead insurgents in Afghanistan prompted American condemnation and a Pentagon probe Thursday, but the Taliban said peace efforts would continue.

 

A senior US military official said the Marines believed they had identified the unit at the centre of the allegations, which evoked memories of previous abuses committed by US troops in Iraq and during the decade-long Afghan war.

 

"We cannot release the name of the unit at this time since the incident is being investigated," a spokesman from the Marines said, referring to images that could spark outrage and unrest in Afghanistan and the wider Muslim world.

 

US cable network CNN quoted an unnamed US Marine official as saying the military branch was "confident" the troops in the inflammatory video were from the 3rd Battalion 2nd Marine Regiment, based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

 

The unit deployed to Afghanistan, mainly in Helmand province, in early 2011 and returned in September or October, CNN reported.

 

The video appeared to show four servicemen urinating on three bloodied corpses, and one of the men, apparently aware he was being filmed, saying: "Have a great day, buddy," referring to one of the dead.

 

US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta pledged that "those found to have engaged in such conduct will be held accountable to the fullest extent," and a Pentagon spokesman confirmed a probe into the alleged abuse was under way.

 

"This conduct is entirely inappropriate for members of the United States military and does not reflect the standards or values our armed forces are sworn to uphold," Panetta said in a statement.

 

"I have seen the footage, and I find the behaviour depicted in it utterly deplorable. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms."

 

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters of her "total dismay at the story concerning our Marines," and joined Panetta in condemning "the deplorable behaviour that is reflected in this video."

 

"It is absolutely inconsistent with American values, with the standards of behaviour that we expect from our military personnel," Clinton said.

 

The Taliban, who have made recent moves toward talks to end 10 years of US-led war in the impoverished country, described the apparent abuse as "an inhumane and savage act by the American soldiers in Afghanistan."

 

But spokesman Zabihullah Mujahed said he did not think it would destroy tentative peace negotiations with the United States, "which at this stage are mainly about prisoner exchange".

 

Earlier in the day, the insurgents issued another statement supporting talks to end the war against US-led forces, while warning that this did not mean surrender.

 

The Pentagon says it has not yet verified the footage, which has been broadcast by leading Afghan television station Tolo News and posted on the Live Leak website.

 

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in a statement that the government of Afghanistan was "deeply disturbed" at the desecration.

 

"This act by American soldiers is simply inhuman and condemnable in the strongest possible terms," he said, requesting that the US urgently investigate and "apply the most severe punishment" to anyone found guilty.

 

On the subject of peace talks, the Taliban, who have announced their readiness to open a political office in Qatar, said they had increased their "political efforts to come to mutual understanding with the world."

 

"But this understanding does not mean a surrender from jihad and neither is it connected to an acceptance of the constitution of the stooge Kabul administration," the hardline Islamists said in a statement received by AFP.

 

"But rather the Islamic Emirate (the Taliban) is utilising its political wing alongside its military presence and jihad in order to realise the national and Islamic aspirations of the nation and its martyrs."

 

The United States earlier announced that it would send a senior official to meet Karzai next week to see if he will agree to a resumption of preliminary talks with the Taliban. A US official said the talks could open within weeks.

 

A key Washington demand for any progress in negotiations is that the Taliban accept the Afghan constitution, which mandates protection for the rights of women and minorities, which were stifled during Taliban rule from 1996 to 2001.

 

Another crucial element would be a renunciation of violence by the Taliban and a break with Al-Qaeda and other "terrorist" groups, the US says.

 

- AFP/wk

 

[Vulcann]

It is very disrepectful to desecrate the bodies of the dead especially after a battle.

 

The US are not exactly on the favourite list of many countries and such atrocious acts committed by her fighting men will only make matters worst.

 

End result is always not only they kena we also suffer in terms of collateral damage...

[Cerano]

But we must consider from their pov too. These are recon marines from a sniper team right?

 

Imagine the s--t they've gone through with IEDs killing so many of their best friends.

 

 

[The_Bear]

Stupid marines. Why take videos?

[macrosszero]

They forgot the golden rule - do whatever you want but don't get caught

[Vega]

[Vulcann]

 

Sh!t for brains!!!

 

Not sure what went through their pea-sized brains, if they have one, when they did that.

 

Just imagine what will happen when members of the 3/2 Marines get caught by the insurgents...

 

Ya like some bro said COC 7 may be at play here but they just had to film it and broadcast it to the whole world.

 

I for one would not want my dead body to be p!ssed all over after a firefight...

[Tuna_seng]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/...l-team-20110327

 

Stryker kill team kills afghanistan civilians for sport

[Moredhel]

But we must consider from their pov too. These are recon marines from a sniper team right?

 

Imagine the s--t they've gone through with IEDs killing so many of their best friends.

 

Agree.

 

In times of war, who gives a s--t about political shifts at home?

 

Survival and basic instinct is key here. Revenge is sweet, but revenge is a dish best served cold.

 

 

And who da fluck is the as$hole who took the video? Kam lan si ginna...

[Galantspeedz]

no one blaming the US govt??

[Moredhel]

And for pete's sake, Peace Talks with Terrorist?

 

SMLJ? I'm sure even a mentally handicapped kid will see the irony of that sentence.

 

I say kill them all and be done with it. [rifle]

 

 

[Babyt]

imagine if u r a soldier fighting against an enemy....of course u want him dead...who cares about rules of engagement.

[Vulcann]

But we must consider from their pov too. These are recon marines from a sniper team right?

 

Imagine the s--t they've gone through with IEDs killing so many of their best friends.

 

During a declared war, all combatants from the two opposing sides are fair game as long as the Geneva Convention is followed and complied with.

 

Granted that the insurgents are from reports not strictly following the GC in their bitter struggle against the UN forces, particularly Unker Sam's, the latter should not stoop so low to perform such childish but serious in implication provocative ways.

 

Why give them more excuse to perpertrate their terror acts?

 

I thought after the My Lai incident, US servicemen should be more sensitive about such matters but sadly I am quite perturbed about their behaviour during Dubya's terms and thereafter...

[Vulcann]

And for pete's sake, Peace Talks with Terrorist?

 

SMLJ? I'm sure even a mentally handicapped kid will see the irony of that sentence.

 

I say kill them all and be done with it. [rifle]

 

Nobody is shedding tears for their demise but it's the way you treat their dead.

 

Folks familair with the Black Hawk Down incident when US forces mounted a daring snatch of some radicals in Somalia faced a fierce resistance which cost them many fatalities/casualities and two Blackhawk helicopters. Some of their dead, which included two CMOH Delta troopers, were stripped naked, mutilated and paraded in the streets by the angry mob.

 

The vicious cycle of an eye for eye seem to be perpetuating since then.

 

I guess the last we want to hear is our very own NSF/regular servicemen serving under the UN flag getting caught by insurgents in Afghanistan and terrible things done to them.

[Cerano]

alamak u see Abu Ghraib they also not scared. Low level grunts cant be bothered about politics

[Vulcann]

alamak u see Abu Ghraib they also not scared. Low level grunts cant be bothered about politics

 

It is precisely the stupidity acts by these "low level grunts" that kept the hatred feeling going on and on.

 

When BO took over from Dubya, I thought finally there is some level-headed folks heading the WH but sadly BO proved to be a lame duck leader and things did not improve since then but in fact getting from worst to very worst...

 

Guess we are all in very a long and uncomfortable ride under this unstable climate....