Tleslie 1st Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 my company adopts earn as you work scheme. eg if you are entitled 12 days/year. in March, you wish to take 8 days leave. as your earned leave for the year only 3 days till March, the balance 5 days you are forced to take unpaid leave. do your company adopts the same system? what are the advantages of this system? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mightymito 1st Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 FYI there are companies that require you to work one year before you get a single day of annual leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 my company adopts earn as you work scheme. eg if you are entitled 12 days/year. in March, you wish to take 8 days leave. as your earned leave for the year only 3 days till March, the balance 5 days you are forced to take unpaid leave. do your company adopts the same system? what are the advantages of this system? yes, my company practice that. Only advantage is for the HR/admin no need to keep track of the advance leave taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunburnsam 2nd Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 FYI there are companies that require you to work one year before you get a single day of annual leave huh......serious......usually it is only during probation period, no leave entitlement. But for 1 whole year...that is against the employment act http://www.mom.gov.sg/employment-practices...es/default.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTan 2nd Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 I thought this only apply for new staff, since they have not work for the full year. What happen to the u used leave from previous years? Say you have 10 leaves from 2011. Can you take 13 at one shot from March 2012?? Funny company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tleslie 1st Gear January 10, 2012 Author Share January 10, 2012 I thought this only apply for new staff, since they have not work for the full year. What happen to the u used leave from previous years? Say you have 10 leaves from 2011. Can you take 13 at one shot from March 2012?? Funny company. yes, provided you have balance leave from the previous year. the situation is when there is not balance leave from the previous years. one has to take unpaid leave if he has not earn enough to cover his leave applied. i oso thinking funny... therefore, wanted to find out the industry practices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhtfhwlego Supercharged January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 my company adopts earn as you work scheme. eg if you are entitled 12 days/year. in March, you wish to take 8 days leave. as your earned leave for the year only 3 days till March, the balance 5 days you are forced to take unpaid leave. do your company adopts the same system? what are the advantages of this system? will the company compensate for unused leave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 FYI there are companies that require you to work one year before you get a single day of annual leave If the company requires you to work one year before getting annual leave, i think this is against employment act. But i find quite a few companies adopts earn as you work scheme, this is to prevent employees having to use up all their annual leave at one time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acieed 1st Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 Not much of an "industry practice" in Singapore unless you are eligible under Employment Act or civil service, so there can be hundreds of different policies. It's all in your contract, and should be something you find out and negotiate before you take up an offer. For some U.S. firms, annual leave is accrued as "paid time-off", it is part of your salary and you earn it through the year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paid_time_off yes, provided you have balance leave from the previous year. the situation is when there is not balance leave from the previous years. one has to take unpaid leave if he has not earn enough to cover his leave applied. i oso thinking funny... therefore, wanted to find out the industry practices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 Since we on annual leave, OT a bit. What was the least you have ever worked for as a permanent staff? Mine was 7 days/year for a 6-day work week from 7:30am-7:30pm for first 3 years as a site engineer. Industry was construction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 Since we on annual leave, OT a bit. What was the least you have ever worked for as a permanent staff? Mine was 7 days/year for a 6-day work week from 7:30am-7:30pm for first 3 years as a site engineer. Industry was construction. ever in one company with 5 days leave but 7 hour / day, 5-day week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha78 6th Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 Most companies adopt some form of earned leave as the year progresses. Also, some rules should apply as to how many days leave the employee can carry forward to the next year, and the deadline by which the employee needs to clear off these leave. In this sense, earned leave method of calculation is fair to both the employer and employee. But only allowing the employee to take leave after working for a year is definitely not fair to the employee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 ever in one company with 5 days leave but 7 hour / day, 5-day week. 5 day annual leave? Against employment act, requirement min leave is 7 days or more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 Since we on annual leave, OT a bit. What was the least you have ever worked for as a permanent staff? Mine was 7 days/year for a 6-day work week from 7:30am-7:30pm for first 3 years as a site engineer. Industry was construction. Heard construction company, their leave always 7 days to 10 days only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mightymito 1st Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 employment act employment act applies onli if you earn less than 1.8k. I not onli no leave in the first year, my letter of appointment the company refused to put in which is work day and what is work hour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 (edited) Heard construction company, their leave always 7 days to 10 days only. Construction companies mostly very kiam so locals shun them. My time on top of 6 full-day work week, Sundays/PH on duty roster. Ever worked full days during Labour Day & CNY eve If the site got concrete casting (almost daily basis) had to stay sometimes the entire night to supervise the works. Most night castings ended around 10pm-1am but sorry no OT nor time-off as engineer hor. Plus the dangerous, high-risk environment & outdoor-exposing-to-all-weather conditions including all sorts of noise & dust pollutions, little wonder why only foreigners take up jobs in this industry. We ever calculated our pay on average slightly better than unkers/aunties working in fast-food restaurants [laugh] Edited January 10, 2012 by Vulcann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novicej Neutral Newbie January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 This is known as "earned leave policy" If you are HR reviewing this system, 2 advantage 1) Employees will not be able to clear their leave 1 shot against whatever entitlement. eg your entitlement is 12 days, you cannot take and clear 12 days during CNY because you have not earned the leave yet. Employees that do block clearance usually have to take no pay leave for whatever reason, thus productivity loss or organisation. 2) In financial books, leave is a liability (staff cost) to overall P&L. If you haven earn the leave the liability is not yet there thus lower (staff cost). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTan 2nd Gear January 10, 2012 Share January 10, 2012 I think your company must be employing many smelly people who will disappear after taking extended home leave. Some will even come out with overseas MC and hospitalization proof to extend their leaves. On the bright side.....not many company allow unpaid leaves even if you beg them. Hey TS, on a serious note. Can you confirm with your HR on the MC entitlement. Say you have 12MC entitlement in a year,and in march you chicken pox and hospital give you one week MC. Will the company accept it? Or give you 3days MC and the rest unpaid leave? How about the medical claims $$$? Will it also be prorated? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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