Ministerial salary

[Jpcc]

I thought MBT was good.

Care to share on mbt's contribution in MND?

[Wind30]

Care to share on mbt's contribution in MND?

 

I think he was good as the minister of communication.

 

I thought he was one of the best transport ministers around. He introduced COE and ERP which I think is quite sound policies.

 

I think his policies for MND is not that great. He took helm at a time when there was a glut in HDB flats so I guess he was a big supporter of BTO.

 

I think BTO is not a good policy because HDB is basically holding zero inventory for a product that take years to produce.

 

 

[Jpcc]

COE is the brainchild of Dr Hong Hai's. Mbt's executed it in his terms.

 

If it stays true with Hong Hai's idea, Coe won't be cheap but you can go from any point a to point b in twenty minutes too.

[Picanto]

why? did I mention names/countries?

 

up to you to infer

[Falcon1668]

up to you to infer

[Meanmachine]

I thought MBT was good.

 

Good in sucking blood from ERP, Housing policies and wrong implementation@ wrong timing.

 

Ppl pay for things being singa[orean, his own son escape doing NS . . .

 

[Wind30]

COE is the brainchild of Dr Hong Hai's. Mbt's executed it in his terms.

 

If it stays true with Hong Hai's idea, Coe won't be cheap but you can go from any point a to point b in twenty minutes too.

 

? wasn't it implemented under MBT term? A minister is not supposed to think up of all the policies himself lah....

 

where got so much time????

 

He is supposed to delegate others and then decide if the policy is good or not right?

 

If it is under MBT term I think MBT should get "credit"

 

[Vulcann]

Another all-knowing ang mo telling us how to run things...

 

Tell me something Mr Grant.

 

When your politicians scr*w up, do they still get to keep their jobs and continue to enjoy their pay or making more scr*w ups or do they get the boot?

 

Answer this please.

 

From ST Forum:

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/Story/...ory_756027.html

 

Ministerial pay - a view from the outside

Published on Jan 16, 2012

 

ONE way to look at the national discussion on political contribution and wages may be to step back and consider the Singapore political model from the position of an independent observer.

 

Most outsiders see Singapore as a country run with the pragmatism of a well-run company, with all the citizens as fortunate shareholders.

 

As with corporate shareholders, the Singaporean stakeholder benefits from the good governance of the chief executive officer (Prime Minister) and the board of directors (an elected set of parliamentarians) through increased shareholder value (higher home prices, better wages and opportunities, and an internationally recognised brand).

 

In years of plenty, the shareholders receive a dividend (the Growth Dividend).

 

Given all the benefits of this extraordinarily governed country, many would say that any discount in ministerial pay - from the median income of the top 1,000 Singaporean earners - is a bargain. (The panel has recommended a 40 per cent discount.)

 

The bigger benefit of the 'clean wage' concept pioneered in Singapore is the elimination of 'the money from politics' that is handcuffing most Western democracies, preventing them from moving forward in the 21st century.

 

It is no secret that corporate and special interest lobbying in the United States has led to a breakdown in governance there that could prove fatal if not addressed immediately.

 

David Grant

Edited January 15, 2012 by Vulcann

[Katz2282]

Is it me or are the replies defending the MIW all coming from "foreigners"? Anyone CSI-ed whether these are "imaginary friends"?

[Vulcann]

As long as it suits the purpose, anything is fair game.

 

Another example is when the situation is tough they literally blame anything but themselves and that the fault lies with all things under the sky e.g. world economy no good, others not doing well also, etc but when economy improves yes it is solely through the caring govt's diligent efforts.

 

What's new?

 

How can we not be skeptics?

 

From ST Forum:

 

Comparisons

Published on Jan 16, 2012

 

'Is the committee cherry-picking what other countries do to justify its proposals?'

 

MR DANIEL CHAN: 'In explaining why it had not chosen to peg salaries to foreign leaders' pay, the ministerial pay review committee stated that compensation principles are different because of the different conditions in other countries ('Why ministerial pay is pegged to top earners' income'; last Thursday). Interestingly, when asked why political appointment holders keep their MP allowance in addition to their political salary, the committee noted that this was the international practice in Westminster parliamentary systems. Is the committee cherry-picking what other countries do to justify its proposals?'

Edited January 16, 2012 by Vulcann

[KARTer]

I thought MBT was/is good fren of developers.....

Edited January 16, 2012 by KARTer

[Sosaria]

What to do? This is yet another example of "social engineering" gone wrong in singapore.

 

The generation where we can actually find some people willing to do things for their country for little or no return - just out of sheer patriotism... this generation is either gone already or quickly passing by.

 

The generation today is one that has been taught that academic success or career success = more money. I read an article recently where the writer lamented that very few people nowadays learn things for the sake of knowledge and self-development. Academic success is only important because it leads to high-paying jobs!

 

Now that this mentality has been ingrained into the minds of the people, it is very, very hard to change back. Just like the chinese language = mandarin policy which has almost eradicated dialects in singapore.

 

How to gain back what has been lost? It will take two or three generations to undo the damage from bad social engineering policies.

[Vulcann]

What to do? This is yet another example of "social engineering" gone wrong in singapore.

 

The generation where we can actually find some people willing to do things for their country for little or no return - just out of sheer patriotism... this generation is either gone already or quickly passing by.

 

The generation today is one that has been taught that academic success or career success = more money. I read an article recently where the writer lamented that very few people nowadays learn things for the sake of knowledge and self-development. Academic success is only important because it leads to high-paying jobs!

 

Now that this mentality has been ingrained into the minds of the people, it is very, very hard to change back. Just like the chinese language = mandarin policy which has almost eradicated dialects in singapore.

 

How to gain back what has been lost? It will take two or three generations to undo the damage from bad social engineering policies.

 

Meritocracy or merito-crazy mah.

 

That is what they have been emphasizing again and again till the cow come home.

 

And that means when they are high up to sacrifice themselves to work as a "thankless" cabinet minister, you must compensate him/her adequately because apparently anything less than a million bucks per annum will cause hardship to them and their families....Maybe they have hundred mouths to feed and 90% of their pay all donated to charity.

Edited January 16, 2012 by Vulcann