Cerano 1st Gear January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 a kid who are rebellion can take it one lah, yes they probably become more rebellion and get themselve into trouble is the school just ignore them or let their mum shouting at the school.... sure, it hurt their little crystal heart when we make laws, we dont abandon the weak, illiterate and poor to the forces of the market. We dont say, it's their problem. We have pedagogical studies and educational development simply because the methods of yesterday have become irrelevant in the context of today. Maybe its the form of teaching, maybe its the sort of children. The army has realised this by toning down all the shouting and so has the education board banning things like throwing dusters at kids. Why? For the sake of professionalism and a better system on the whole. The best way to teach is hardly ever to get someone shouting down your ear all the time but to explain to you why. For most of us here we never got that chance ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymondism Twincharged January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 when we make laws, we dont abandon the weak, illiterate and poor to the forces of the market. We dont say, it's their problem. We have pedagogical studies and educational development simply because the methods of yesterday have become irrelevant in the context of today. Maybe its the form of teaching, maybe its the sort of children. The army has realised this by toning down all the shouting and so has the education board banning things like throwing dusters at kids. Why? For the sake of professionalism and a better system on the whole. The best way to teach is hardly ever to get someone shouting down your ear all the time but to explain to you why. For most of us here we never got that chance u cant talk to a pussy.... just punish the pussy... LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 a bit of conflict on your own statement... you ask for counselling session with the kid, yet you also think they won't listen and discipline come from home. There are many who will listen. Like i explained, many of these kids arent bad. They just dont know better. 14? Still a si ginna pi. Maybe they can tell that murder is wrong or stealing is wrong but you want to put them through higher level considerations? You need someone to explain slowly without being judgemental, why they cant do this and why society frowns upon it. then finally what are the consequences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 u cant talk to a pussy.... just punish the pussy... LOL i used to think that way too. now i like a mixture Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 looks like Carnegie will be out of business [rolleyes] I do agree with some of your 'soft' approach, i do not necessary agree with "nobody touch my kids except me!" when we make laws, we dont abandon the weak, illiterate and poor to the forces of the market. We dont say, it's their problem. We have pedagogical studies and educational development simply because the methods of yesterday have become irrelevant in the context of today. Maybe its the form of teaching, maybe its the sort of children. The army has realised this by toning down all the shouting and so has the education board banning things like throwing dusters at kids. Why? For the sake of professionalism and a better system on the whole. The best way to teach is hardly ever to get someone shouting down your ear all the time but to explain to you why. For most of us here we never got that chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 looks like Carnegie will be out of business I do agree with some of your 'soft' approach, i do not necessary agree with "nobody touch my kids except me!" I was telling MO, hard lessons best learn at home i rather i beat my son to death than let him get beaten to death by gangsters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 a kid who are rebellion can take it one lah, yes they probably become more rebellion and get themselve into trouble is the school just ignore them or let their mum shouting at the school.... sure, it hurt their little crystal heart [rolleyes] WAY TO GO LAU NANG!! YAY!!!! [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 i have classmate/friend who is a student aid in one of the baddest rich boy schools in town, and also people doing counseling at school, chances is the kids attend the the whole counseling sessions without saying a word... other case i can empathize but not this boy or similar case of such. There are many who will listen. Like i explained, many of these kids arent bad. They just dont know better. 14? Still a si ginna pi. Maybe they can tell that murder is wrong or stealing is wrong but you want to put them through higher level considerations? You need someone to explain slowly without being judgemental, why they cant do this and why society frowns upon it. then finally what are the consequences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 I was telling MO, hard lessons best learn at home i rather i beat my son to death than let him get beaten to death by gangsters and not let a teacher hit his little palm? hire him a body guard then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 and not let a teacher hit his little palm? hire him a body guard then Wait he ask bodyguard loot people gf how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 WAY TO GO LAU NANG!! YAY!!!! this fella is not lau nang la. is lau niang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 there are Law, there are school rule. DM come out with the school rule. who are you to argue on that? then why you dont argue on company rule that is not binding with law?? Cutting 7cm of hair off the student is violent? To me, that is not violent, it just a disciplinary measures to let the students that breaking the school rules means getting punished. Clearly in this case, the mother is not doing anything to discipline the kid. So what's going to happen if the school can't take any actions against their own student for violating the school rules and the mother is not discipling her kid? As one say, when in rome, do what the romans do. When you are in school, you abide to the school rules and not behave what you deem is fit. Not too sure abt children not listening during CME. That is your assumption. I believe CME does serve it purpose and have benefitted to many young children. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 this fella is not lau nang la. is lau niang Harlow, beter then you lah...KU NIANG. [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 there are Law, there are school rule. DM come out with the school rule. who are you to argue on that? then why you dont argue on company rule that is not binding with law?? I say just shot the bastar.d and end it there. [laugh] Shoot on face hor, but must give tissue to wipe lah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 Harlow, beter then you lah...KU NIANG. MAI ARNI KUAN LA ENCIK i strong like bull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 there are Law, there are school rule. DM come out with the school rule. who are you to argue on that? then why you dont argue on company rule that is not binding with law?? HARLOW THIS IS CIVIL SERVICE. U THINK CAN ANYHOW MAKE LAW AH? GO JAIL LO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 (edited) HARLOW THIS IS CIVIL SERVICE. U THINK CAN ANYHOW MAKE LAW AH? GO JAIL LO Civil service so what? rules and regulation in each organisation are internally set. If you dont want to follow school rule. go another school. or best, go international school. If no money have to study in Government subsidise school, then comply. remember, Begger can't chose... I am begger too BTW, that is why i taking gahment grant and subsidy. Edited January 13, 2012 by Joseph22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacxaviqer 1st Gear January 13, 2012 Share January 13, 2012 exactly. i follow the singapore and MOE law. The point is that there is NO law right now here regarding this sort of discipline. Everything is left to the DM's discretion My point is, when you are in that particular school, you will be subjected to the punishment meted out by the authority in the school. In this case, you are studying in Springfield and you have long hair that touches the collar, so the authority of the school which is the DM punishes the student. The punishment, snip off the excess hair. Fair enough I would think. Unless the punishment meted to the student has become abusive then it would have been a different story. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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