Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear December 31, 2011 Share December 31, 2011 On 12/31/2011 at 5:58 AM, Nzy said: Maybe its because road bike cleats are harder to unclip? I am using pedals and cleats for MTB. Agree MTB cleats easier to free yourself. Road bike cleats are track bike cleat mistakenly used for road cycling Hence so serious and so often collar bones broken. Mentally retarded at times by dehyration, many always use them for road cycling (should bear bear-trap pedals for road cycling). Example: I won competitions both in 2009, 2010, with bear-trap pedals. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achtung7 Neutral Newbie December 31, 2011 Share December 31, 2011 SPD pedals have a screw for adjusting tension and have multi-directional release cleats.. so can release easier... but I did suffer a fail to release once.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achtung7 Neutral Newbie December 31, 2011 Share December 31, 2011 i think a lot of drivers are just too impatient to get from pt A to pt B and hence there are all these complaints abt cyclists on the road. All these calls for cycling on the pavement and that the law calls for pushing bikes across the pedestrian x-ing shows the intolerance to cyclists. If I'm riding a road bike going at about 35-40km/h and I'm occupying 1/2 of the left lane... am I causing a lot of inconveniences to drivers? I'm sure most roads have a 50 limit but most drivers choose to break that rule... so why call for cyclists to push their bikes across zebra crossings? If i can cycle across safely and clear the x-ing faster, won't it save everyone's time? Picture this... 50 cyclist in a single file pushing their road bikes across a zebra x-ing... guess how long it'll take... Pls drive/cycle safe and be considerate... a driver, a m-cyclist or a cyclist is still a life.. it doesn't mean that you drive a car and you can bully everyone on the road.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 31, 2011 Share December 31, 2011 Instead of KPKB, let's be constructive. How could we improve current situation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achtung7 Neutral Newbie December 31, 2011 Share December 31, 2011 I doubt that it would be so easy to change the mindset of a significant portion of the drivers. If it was so easy, we won't have hoggers and driver who don't use the signal when they turn or change lane. As for the cyclists, it's also hard to make those FT change their cycling habits... Unless every single one of "those" drivers take out of one of "those" cyclist... driver gets lifetime driving ban and cyclist get cycling anymore.. then the current situation will improve.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged December 31, 2011 Share December 31, 2011 On 12/31/2011 at 7:32 AM, Achtung7 said: i think a lot of drivers are just too impatient to get from pt A to pt B and hence there are all these complaints abt cyclists on the road. All these calls for cycling on the pavement and that the law calls for pushing bikes across the pedestrian x-ing shows the intolerance to cyclists. If I'm riding a road bike going at about 35-40km/h and I'm occupying 1/2 of the left lane... am I causing a lot of inconveniences to drivers? I'm sure most roads have a 50 limit but most drivers choose to break that rule... so why call for cyclists to push their bikes across zebra crossings? If i can cycle across safely and clear the x-ing faster, won't it save everyone's time? Picture this... 50 cyclist in a single file pushing their road bikes across a zebra x-ing... guess how long it'll take... Pls drive/cycle safe and be considerate... a driver, a m-cyclist or a cyclist is still a life.. it doesn't mean that you drive a car and you can bully everyone on the road.. Its those cyclist who cycle across the pedestrian crossing without checking or slowing down that causes drivers to hate them. Because of the speeds bicycles can travel at, sometimes when the driver has already checked that the pedestrian crossing is clear and is just starting to accelerate then a bicycle just appears infront of him. If all cyclists who want use pedestrian crossings bother to slow down and look out for traffic rather than just dash across the road just to avoid waiting for the next green man, I think there will definitely be less complaints from drivers about cyclist using pedestrian crossings already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic January 1, 2012 Share January 1, 2012 On 12/31/2011 at 2:01 PM, Nzy said: Its those cyclist who cycle across the pedestrian crossing without checking or slowing down that causes drivers to hate them. Because of the speeds bicycles can travel at, sometimes when the driver has already checked that the pedestrian crossing is clear and is just starting to accelerate then a bicycle just appears infront of him. If all cyclists who want use pedestrian crossings bother to slow down and look out for traffic rather than just dash across the road just to avoid waiting for the next green man, I think there will definitely be less complaints from drivers about cyclist using pedestrian crossings already. If meet this type of cyclist, use car horn to its fullest potential. I also find that some drivers are impatient towards pedestrian. While walking thru zebra crossing, a number of drivers e-brake last mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic January 1, 2012 Share January 1, 2012 On 12/27/2011 at 8:19 AM, Jamessoh said: Is it legal for cyclist to cycle across traffic lights? Sometime ago, I remember reading a column on the papers saying that it is against the law. Because sometimes when cyclist cycle across traffic lights at green man or at the zebra crossing, the cars have to calculate the time taken to slow down according to their speed. This is different from slowing down because of pedestrians. It can be dangerous when the cyclist is going at a fast speed. anyone can comment? confirm illegal. bicycle considered vehicle although unreg. cyclist is suppose to get off bike to push across pedestrian crossing . in fact , it is illegal to cycle against traffic. i've seen many foreigners do that here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogelspinen Neutral Newbie January 1, 2012 Share January 1, 2012 So in the event of an accident with a cyclist cycling across the zebra crossing, who will be considered to be at fault? Recently had an accident where I stopped at a zebra crossing for 2 people to cross the road. Once they were clear, I checked left and right to see that there was no one, and slowly moved off on half clutch. Halfway across, this bloody FT sped across the zebra crossing, grazed my bumper and fell down. Long big hoo-hah with polie involved and all. In e end just paid him $200 to settle this matter and prevent any repurcussions. Still wondering till now if I had been a goondu to pay him that amount. He admitted to TP that he had cycled across, BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged January 1, 2012 Share January 1, 2012 On 1/1/2012 at 11:19 AM, Vogelspinen said: So in the event of an accident with a cyclist cycling across the zebra crossing, who will be considered to be at fault? Recently had an accident where I stopped at a zebra crossing for 2 people to cross the road. Once they were clear, I checked left and right to see that there was no one, and slowly moved off on half clutch. Halfway across, this bloody FT sped across the zebra crossing, grazed my bumper and fell down. Long big hoo-hah with polie involved and all. In e end just paid him $200 to settle this matter and prevent any repurcussions. Still wondering till now if I had been a goondu to pay him that amount. He admitted to TP that he had cycled across, BTW. The driver still bear most of the blame. Its like knocking down a jaywalker. Even if he suddenly dashed across the road, most of the fault is still on you if you hit him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclepigpig 1st Gear January 1, 2012 Share January 1, 2012 On 1/1/2012 at 9:55 AM, Throttle2 said: confirm illegal. bicycle considered vehicle although unreg. cyclist is suppose to get off bike to push across pedestrian crossing . in fact , it is illegal to cycle against traffic. i've seen many foreigners do that here I found this road traffic act on cycling in Singapore. http://www.ntu.edu.sg/ohs/safetyforeveryon...n%20Cycling.pdf Is there one that says no cycling across pedestrian crossing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarine 1st Gear January 1, 2012 Share January 1, 2012 On 12/31/2011 at 2:01 PM, Nzy said: Its those cyclist who cycle across the pedestrian crossing without checking or slowing down that causes drivers to hate them. Because of the speeds bicycles can travel at, sometimes when the driver has already checked that the pedestrian crossing is clear and is just starting to accelerate then a bicycle just appears infront of him. If all cyclists who want use pedestrian crossings bother to slow down and look out for traffic rather than just dash across the road just to avoid waiting for the next green man, I think there will definitely be less complaints from drivers about cyclist using pedestrian crossings already. What about those idiot drivers that act blur when they see you either on or off the bicycle while about to make that cross at the zebra crossing? Most of the time they will only give you that sick look and than zoom off without stopping. It happens alot of time esp. at the point of going to the highway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoots 3rd Gear January 1, 2012 Share January 1, 2012 (edited) On 1/1/2012 at 2:27 PM, Unclepigpig said: I found this road traffic act on cycling in Singapore. http://www.ntu.edu.sg/ohs/safetyforeveryon...n%20Cycling.pdf Is there one that says no cycling across pedestrian crossing? Err... the whole of it?... given that it's treating the bicycle as any vehicle on the road? it's not explicitly stated that motorcycles, cars, lorries are/atre not allowed to ride/drive acoss the zebra corssing right? Edited January 1, 2012 by Scoots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged January 1, 2012 Share January 1, 2012 On 1/1/2012 at 2:27 PM, Unclepigpig said: I found this road traffic act on cycling in Singapore. http://www.ntu.edu.sg/ohs/safetyforeveryon...n%20Cycling.pdf Is there one that says no cycling across pedestrian crossing? Bicycles are classified as vehicles and not pedestrians. By right bicycles are not even allowed on the footpaths. Pedestrian crossings are for pedestrians therefore they should also dismount before using a pedestrian crossing or don't use it at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclepigpig 1st Gear January 2, 2012 Share January 2, 2012 On 1/1/2012 at 3:17 PM, Nzy said: Bicycles are classified as vehicles and not pedestrians. By right bicycles are not even allowed on the footpaths. Pedestrian crossings are for pedestrians therefore they should also dismount before using a pedestrian crossing or don't use it at all. But undercommon law it is the interpretation of the letter of the law and precedents that counts isnt it? And not what you think i think. So far those cases I've seen favour towards cyclists even when they cycle across the traffic lights. Unless it is explicitly stated in the traffic act that cyclists should dismount and walk across pedestrain crossing, there still exists this grey area where benefit of doubt is still given to them in the event of an accident. This only comes when there are more pple cycling and with intense lobbying from interested parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic January 2, 2012 Share January 2, 2012 i noticed most of them simply boh chap and ignore the lights, see it along Thomson Road on weekend mornings, very common. danger to themsilves and other road users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic January 2, 2012 Share January 2, 2012 On 1/1/2012 at 2:27 PM, Unclepigpig said: yy I found this road traffic act on cycling in Singapore. http://www.ntu.edu.sg/ohs/safetyforeveryon...n%20Cycling.pdf Is there one that says no cycling across pedestrian crossing? as mentioned, legally a bicycle is considered a vehicle. rightfully a cyclist can be fined for cycling across the road using pedestrian crossing. in fact bicycles are not allowed on any pedestrian pathways. yes, you can check with the police, a cyclist is supposed to dismount when crossing any pedestian crossing or using a pedestrian footpath. it is just not being enforced as serious injuries dont often happen and any such accidents are always unreported. so authorities take a close one eye, bochup attitude. no point talking technicalities, i always feel. lets talk about practicalities. as long as a cyclist is considerate and poses no safety issue, it's ok not to dismount. thats my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic January 2, 2012 Share January 2, 2012 On 1/2/2012 at 2:25 AM, Blueray said: i noticed most of them simply boh chap and ignore the lights, see it along Thomson Road on weekend mornings, very common. danger to themsilves and other road users. there will always be as$holes like those. keep a look out ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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