This is how it starts!!!

[King]

RadX!

i totally 200% agree with you!

 

all they want is to increase increase and increase

[RadX]

Here comes $100/month parking

[Jman888]

  On 12/27/2011 at 2:00 AM, RadX said:

Here comes $100/month parking

 

 

come on, be more aggressive [laugh]

[1fast1]

  On 12/27/2011 at 1:57 AM, Speedsun said:

Did our main party learn from the revolution of 2011? 官逼民反！(being oppressed by officials the masses revolt against them)

 

You call *that* a "revolution"? No wonder Singapore is the laughing stock of the democratic world.

 

I hope you were being ironic (sarcastic).

[RadX]

  On 12/27/2011 at 2:15 AM, Turboflat4 said:

You call *that* a "revolution"? No wonder Singapore is the laughing stock of the democratic world.

 

I hope you were being ironic (sarcastic).

 

Sentosa beach party....is more evulvalution

[Wrathchild156]

  On 12/27/2011 at 12:46 AM, KARTer said:

MIW's never-ending wayang

 

MOVIE OF THE YEAR 2011

 

Money No Enough !

 

main charaters - MIW

[Jtay]

The problem with Singapore is that the govt is always thinking that the use of economics is the most optimal solution.

 

In a free market, of course economics is an excellent market tool. But what they do not realise is that there are too many market failures and externalities in real life.

 

 

 

[1fast1]

  On 12/27/2011 at 2:16 AM, RadX said:

Sentosa beach party....is more evulvalution

 

Then some poor Bangla gets an excitation from the exhibition of bikini-clad flesh, and gets an erection but before he can have his ejaculation, he undergoes an unceremonious ejection from the premises, followed by an execration of his actions in STOMP.

Edited December 27, 2011 by Turboflat4

[Speedsun]

  On 12/27/2011 at 2:15 AM, Turboflat4 said:

You call *that* a "revolution"? No wonder Singapore is the laughing stock of the democratic world.

 

I hope you were being ironic (sarcastic).

 

I was referring the revolution happened in some other countries this year, not 39.9% revolution...

[1fast1]

  On 12/27/2011 at 2:26 AM, Speedsun said:

I was referring the revolution happened in some other countries this year, not 39.9% revolution...

 

Ah, for us it will always be known as the Great Fizzle of 2011.

[Speedsun]

  On 12/27/2011 at 2:27 AM, Turboflat4 said:

Ah, for us it will always be known as the Great Fizzle of 2011.

 

[laugh] This is how it starts and later turns into revolution if it is not handled properly from now.

[1fast1]

  On 12/27/2011 at 2:33 AM, Speedsun said:

[laugh] This is how it starts and later turns into revolution if it is not handled properly from now.

 

Bro, you're a good bit more optimistic than I am. I think asking Singaporeans to take a collective stand on principle is more difficult than herding cats.

[Laworder17]

I quite agree with what the analyst say...

 

"Nanyang Technological University transport economist Michael Li has a more radical suggestion: Allocate each household with a car park lot and allow those who do not own any vehicles to "rent" out their lots to others, thus creating a market which would enable demand and supply to balance out. "

 

If every household is allocated to one lot, then this might solve the problem....those want another car has to pay for the rent of additional lot....

[Rainman]

  On 12/26/2011 at 10:59 PM, RadX said:

Very subtle sign to increase parking charges...starts with articles like this

 

 

 

 

Car park crunch: More radical solutions needed, say experts

 

SINGAPORE: Even as the authorities look into the idea of mechanised car parks, some analysts pointed out the challenges - such as maintenance and costs - with such a system.

 

Instead, they suggested more innovative ideas, including creating a private market for parking spaces and allocating different zones for vehicles of different sizes.

 

National University of Singapore transport expert Lee Der Horng noted that it is "very common" in some cities in the United States to group cars of similar sizes together.

 

Said Associate Professor Lee: "So the smaller cars are parked in the same zone, and it's the same for the sports utility vehicles (SUVs), for instance."

 

Nanyang Technological University transport economist Michael Li has a more radical suggestion: Allocate each household with a car park lot and allow those who do not own any vehicles to "rent" out their lots to others, thus creating a market which would enable demand and supply to balance out.

 

According to the Ministry of National Development, six in 10 Housing and Development Board (HDB) households do not own cars. About a third own one car, while 5 per cent own two or more.

 

The transport analysts pointed out that the cheap HDB parking fees here would escalate the carpark crunch in the years to come.

 

In Taipei, for instance, motorists have to pay a flat fee of as much as S$200,000 for one parking lot, said Assoc Prof Lee.

 

He added that policymakers should think about a "market-based" solution - in which parking fees will have to be higher - for housing estates that face severe car park shortage.

 

Last Friday, National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan wrote on his blog that, while new estates will come with adequate car parks, new solutions are needed in the older HDB estates "where there is little space to add new lots".

 

Mr Khaw has asked the HDB to look into mechanised parking systems but he noted there are "implementation issues" to be worked through.

 

HDB residents who spoke to TODAY generally welcomed the idea - as long as the system is thoroughly tested and properly maintained.

 

Some suggested a policy which require residents to secure a parking lot before they buy a vehicle - a suggestion mooted last year in this newspaper in a column by consultant Richard Hartung.

 

Calling for a balloting system for HDB households who wish to own more than one car, IT consultant Brandon Tan, 40, said: "HDB carparks are supposed to be for the middle-class masses ... If people want a second or third car but fail to win the ballot, then they should look for alternative parking solutions." - TODAY

 

This is a very good tell-tale sign!

 

Why we always got to PAY AND PAY!!!?? tamade!

 

[Rosschang]

fug la... throw away the *&^(*#$&% COE and ARF and PARF etc etc first then we talk...

[Neutralsg]

The root of the problem was created when LHL & company started the populist policy to allow unnecessary want for car ownership. IIRC, it was indicated in his maiden speech as PM after the previous election. Hence, OPC vehicles, cheap cheap finance, 0 downpayment etc.. etc.. which saw the population of vehicles soared from 500K then to almost 1 mil now.

There is no end to the need for more parking space if vehicle population IS NOT BROUGHT DOWN to a sustainable level in tiny Singapore.

It seems apparent that the government often create solutions with twin purposes i.e. to spin more $$$ to justify their salaries vis a vis GDP and a temporary solution to a problem. The ERP system is one such solution to control traffic congestion. However, it failed when motorists pay regardless its pricing thus contributing to inflation.

Therefore, it would be more responsible for the present government to look at how to administrate the country more efficiently without being mercenary which their predecessors used to; for the sake of our future generations.

Apparently, the more salary / better remuneration they got, the more inefficient and complacent they turn out to be. :angry:

At the rate Singapore is presently governed, I wouldn't be surprised if the governance of Singapore evolved into a 2 party system.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Have a nice day!

[Jeroming]

SIAN MAX......

 

First COE rises inexorably. And they want to cut COE quote some more.

Then ERP came along. And they want to increase gantries and operating hours and toll charges.

Now a possible higher parking rates.

 

If the authorities want to discourage driving, then they jolly well make sure their public transport is UP TO STANDARD FIRST....

 

 

 

[En0203]

  On 12/27/2011 at 1:59 AM, King said:

RadX!

i totally 200% agree with you!

 

all they want is to increase increase and increase

 

wa bro long time no see