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Sosaria

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On 5/29/2023 at 1:25 PM, 13177 said:

Boss level would never understand inflation cause their salary too high, doesn't affect them much. Their salary at least 4-5 times my salary lo. Surely not much problem on inflation. Same as those ministers also never understand the low level or sandwitch level workers. You tell them money not enough; they would roll eyes on you. 😅 

Must know how to talk well and give slick presentations and plans, collect bonus, then run off to the next position before you are discovered [laugh]

That's the way to bring "value" as far as the business world seems to appreciate.

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On 5/29/2023 at 5:52 PM, Sosaria said:

Must know how to talk well and give slick presentations and plans, collect bonus, then run off to the next position before you are discovered [laugh]

That's the way to bring "value" as far as the business world seems to appreciate.

That's the diff btw marketer and worker

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13177

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On 5/29/2023 at 5:52 PM, Sosaria said:

Must know how to talk well and give slick presentations and plans, collect bonus, then run off to the next position before you are discovered [laugh]

That's the way to bring "value" as far as the business world seems to appreciate.

True, no wonder i see some people evert 2-4 years must jump ship before got discovered. And funny is even though this person job history of working for tons of companies within short span, and yet still have companies willing to hire them. 

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On 5/29/2023 at 12:45 PM, 13177 said:

Now inflation le, so even recruit gets 700 now also not enough. 😅 But i tell my boss salary increment can increase more boh, due to inflation, money not enough. But my boss tells me what is enough? 😅

 

On 5/29/2023 at 1:25 PM, 13177 said:

Boss level would never understand inflation cause their salary too high, doesn't affect them much. Their salary at least 4-5 times my salary lo. Surely not much problem on inflation. Same as those ministers also never understand the low level or sandwitch level workers. You tell them money not enough; they would roll eyes on you. 😅 

you lucky your boss didn't give you a lecture on need and want, how to manage expectation, and if chicken expensive go eat fish etc etc.... 😂

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Windwaver

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/national-service-deserter-28-years-jailed-uk-covid-19-3650226

Man who deserted NS post since 1992 and came back because of COVID-19 gets 6.5 years' jail

Soh Choon Wee had deserted his NS post for about 28 years and returned from the United Kingdom due to the COVID-19 pandemic and because he missed his family.

SINGAPORE: A man who had deserted his national service post with the Singapore Civil Defence Force in 1992 and left for the United Kingdom returned to Singapore more than 20 years later because of the COVID-19 situation.

Soh Choon Wee, now 50, was sentenced to six-and-a-half years' jail by a district court on Monday (Jul 24) for three counts of desertion under the Civil Defence Act. 

This is believed to be the longest jail term meted out for such an offence. Soh is also too old now to fulfil his NSF obligations.

The court heard that Soh enlisted as a full-time Construction Brigade national serviceman in December 1990.

He was posted to the Construction Brigade Monitoring Unit at Jalan Bahar Camp to continue his NS in October 1992.

Soh did not report for NS duty on Nov 16, 1992. He was arrested by the police at his registered address in March 1993 and instructed to report back to camp about a week later.

However, Soh did not report at camp and did not turn up for his court mention. Instead, he avoided arrest and stayed at a rental flat instead of his official address.

SCDF officers made multiple visits to Soh's address in March 1993 but could not find him. 

According to Soh's lawyer, he worked part-time as a handyman until 1998, when he left Singapore and went to Malaysia via the causeway.

He then moved to the United Kingdom where he lived and worked in a Chinese restaurant.

In January 2021, 23 years after he had left the country, Soh returned to Singapore.

His mother had advised him to do so, as the COVID-19 situation in the United Kingdom was bad, the court heard.

Defence lawyer Wee Hong Shern also said that Soh returned because he "really missed his family" and his parents were getting old.

Soh was placed on stay-home notice for a few weeks before being arrested by SCDF for desertion from NS.

SENTENCING ARGUMENTS

The prosecution had asked for seven-and-a-half to eight-and-a-half years' jail for Soh, pointing to a previous conviction for being absent without official leave.

She also highlighted the length of the desertion period, Soh's evasion of arrest by not living at his registered address, and the fact that his current age prevents him from fulfilling his NSF obligations.

Mr Wee asked instead for four to five years' jail. He said his client had thought that the authorities had "given him a chance" when he encountered no problems leaving Singapore for Malaysia in 1998.

He worked as a "wash-up crew" member for £150 (S$257) a week in a Chinese restaurant in the UK.

Mr Wee said Soh suffered a stroke that required an operation in March 2021. He also has kidney failure, requiring dialysis treatments three times a week.

The judge noted that Soh had remained crime-free in the period of desertion and returned home voluntarily.

However, he noted that Soh was not only unable to fulfil his NSF obligations, but also his NS ones.

He said he did not find the personal circumstances cited by the defence "compelling", as they do not amount to a strong mitigating factor.

"NS is vital to the security of Singapore and requires sacrifice from NSmen and their families," said the judge.

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On 7/25/2023 at 9:48 AM, Windwaver said:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/national-service-deserter-28-years-jailed-uk-covid-19-3650226

Man who deserted NS post since 1992 and came back because of COVID-19 gets 6.5 years' jail

Soh Choon Wee had deserted his NS post for about 28 years and returned from the United Kingdom due to the COVID-19 pandemic and because he missed his family.

SINGAPORE: A man who had deserted his national service post with the Singapore Civil Defence Force in 1992 and left for the United Kingdom returned to Singapore more than 20 years later because of the COVID-19 situation.

Soh Choon Wee, now 50, was sentenced to six-and-a-half years' jail by a district court on Monday (Jul 24) for three counts of desertion under the Civil Defence Act. 

This is believed to be the longest jail term meted out for such an offence. Soh is also too old now to fulfil his NSF obligations.

The court heard that Soh enlisted as a full-time Construction Brigade national serviceman in December 1990.

He was posted to the Construction Brigade Monitoring Unit at Jalan Bahar Camp to continue his NS in October 1992.

Soh did not report for NS duty on Nov 16, 1992. He was arrested by the police at his registered address in March 1993 and instructed to report back to camp about a week later.

However, Soh did not report at camp and did not turn up for his court mention. Instead, he avoided arrest and stayed at a rental flat instead of his official address.

SCDF officers made multiple visits to Soh's address in March 1993 but could not find him. 

According to Soh's lawyer, he worked part-time as a handyman until 1998, when he left Singapore and went to Malaysia via the causeway.

He then moved to the United Kingdom where he lived and worked in a Chinese restaurant.

In January 2021, 23 years after he had left the country, Soh returned to Singapore.

His mother had advised him to do so, as the COVID-19 situation in the United Kingdom was bad, the court heard.

Defence lawyer Wee Hong Shern also said that Soh returned because he "really missed his family" and his parents were getting old.

Soh was placed on stay-home notice for a few weeks before being arrested by SCDF for desertion from NS.

SENTENCING ARGUMENTS

The prosecution had asked for seven-and-a-half to eight-and-a-half years' jail for Soh, pointing to a previous conviction for being absent without official leave.

She also highlighted the length of the desertion period, Soh's evasion of arrest by not living at his registered address, and the fact that his current age prevents him from fulfilling his NSF obligations.

Mr Wee asked instead for four to five years' jail. He said his client had thought that the authorities had "given him a chance" when he encountered no problems leaving Singapore for Malaysia in 1998.

He worked as a "wash-up crew" member for £150 (S$257) a week in a Chinese restaurant in the UK.

Mr Wee said Soh suffered a stroke that required an operation in March 2021. He also has kidney failure, requiring dialysis treatments three times a week.

The judge noted that Soh had remained crime-free in the period of desertion and returned home voluntarily.

However, he noted that Soh was not only unable to fulfil his NSF obligations, but also his NS ones.

He said he did not find the personal circumstances cited by the defence "compelling", as they do not amount to a strong mitigating factor.

"NS is vital to the security of Singapore and requires sacrifice from NSmen and their families," said the judge.

Possibly the prison authority would need to assist him with the dialysis treatment now onward. 

Quoted.

Mr Wee said Soh suffered a stroke that required an operation in March 2021. He also has kidney failure, requiring dialysis treatments three times a week.

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On 7/25/2023 at 9:48 AM, Windwaver said:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/national-service-deserter-28-years-jailed-uk-covid-19-3650226

Man who deserted NS post since 1992 and came back because of COVID-19 gets 6.5 years' jail

Soh Choon Wee had deserted his NS post for about 28 years and returned from the United Kingdom due to the COVID-19 pandemic and because he missed his family.

SINGAPORE: A man who had deserted his national service post with the Singapore Civil Defence Force in 1992 and left for the United Kingdom returned to Singapore more than 20 years later because of the COVID-19 situation.

Soh Choon Wee, now 50, was sentenced to six-and-a-half years' jail by a district court on Monday (Jul 24) for three counts of desertion under the Civil Defence Act. 

This is believed to be the longest jail term meted out for such an offence. Soh is also too old now to fulfil his NSF obligations.

The court heard that Soh enlisted as a full-time Construction Brigade national serviceman in December 1990.

He was posted to the Construction Brigade Monitoring Unit at Jalan Bahar Camp to continue his NS in October 1992.

Soh did not report for NS duty on Nov 16, 1992. He was arrested by the police at his registered address in March 1993 and instructed to report back to camp about a week later.

However, Soh did not report at camp and did not turn up for his court mention. Instead, he avoided arrest and stayed at a rental flat instead of his official address.

SCDF officers made multiple visits to Soh's address in March 1993 but could not find him. 

According to Soh's lawyer, he worked part-time as a handyman until 1998, when he left Singapore and went to Malaysia via the causeway.

He then moved to the United Kingdom where he lived and worked in a Chinese restaurant.

In January 2021, 23 years after he had left the country, Soh returned to Singapore.

His mother had advised him to do so, as the COVID-19 situation in the United Kingdom was bad, the court heard.

Defence lawyer Wee Hong Shern also said that Soh returned because he "really missed his family" and his parents were getting old.

Soh was placed on stay-home notice for a few weeks before being arrested by SCDF for desertion from NS.

SENTENCING ARGUMENTS

The prosecution had asked for seven-and-a-half to eight-and-a-half years' jail for Soh, pointing to a previous conviction for being absent without official leave.

She also highlighted the length of the desertion period, Soh's evasion of arrest by not living at his registered address, and the fact that his current age prevents him from fulfilling his NSF obligations.

Mr Wee asked instead for four to five years' jail. He said his client had thought that the authorities had "given him a chance" when he encountered no problems leaving Singapore for Malaysia in 1998.

He worked as a "wash-up crew" member for £150 (S$257) a week in a Chinese restaurant in the UK.

Mr Wee said Soh suffered a stroke that required an operation in March 2021. He also has kidney failure, requiring dialysis treatments three times a week.

The judge noted that Soh had remained crime-free in the period of desertion and returned home voluntarily.

However, he noted that Soh was not only unable to fulfil his NSF obligations, but also his NS ones.

He said he did not find the personal circumstances cited by the defence "compelling", as they do not amount to a strong mitigating factor.

"NS is vital to the security of Singapore and requires sacrifice from NSmen and their families," said the judge.

no "strong" mitigating...
deserve every single day of the 6.5 yrs
with remission, out in slightly more than 4 yrs
shorter than typical NSF and NSmen cycle some more
health issues? no problemo, dialysis paid for by tax payers
prison regiment give you healthy lifestyle
maybe healthier than if served NSF/reservist
come out 54 yrs old healthier than others of the same age, or even younger!

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Playtime

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On 9/2/2023 at 9:29 PM, therock said:

Wow, I finally found the source of the song I used to sing on road marches..

One of my fav movies too

 

Wah... what unit?

Slow march ah?

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Ender

Ender

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On 9/2/2023 at 11:00 PM, TangoCharlie said:

Wah, I was there too....

 

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AM or PM? I was there in the morning. Has your son got his posting yet? My son doesn't know where he will be posted to. 

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Ender

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On 9/2/2023 at 9:29 PM, therock said:

Wow, I finally found the source of the song I used to sing on road marches..

One of my fav movies too

 

Don't let AWARE know, later they ask YouTube to take down this video.

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