National Service in Singapore

[Angcheek]

I only went back twice and that was more than 10 years ago

Im surprised they even called u ... keke

Which unit ... i rod long ago too . Not as long as ur though .

Edited April 29, 2016 by Angcheek

[Ktglfc]

I ROD only 3 years ago ...

Actually missed my NSMen days... Reservists days are when you put down your work, and go chiong with mates...

Talk abt anything under the skies, and then look out for each other when training ... It's buddy world or Men's world :))

 

Really missed the days ....

[Porker]

Im surprised they even called u ... keke

Which unit ... i rod long ago too . Not as long as ur though .

Engineers. I ORD probably not as long as you lah

[Angcheek]

Engineers. I ORD probably not as long as you lah ð

Waaa siong bo ? I think there was a engineer camp behind my camp at kranji

[Vid]

Waaa siong bo ? I think there was a engineer camp behind my camp at kranji

 

Let's just say it "changed" him forever :XD:

[Angcheek]

Let's just say it "changed" him forever :XD:

 

hmmm hmmmm for good or for bad ? haha

[Vid]

hmmm hmmmm for good or for bad ? haha

 

Good or bad is subjective

[Angcheek]

Good or bad is subjective

 

alamak how come u know him so well ..... 

[Kusje]

alamak how come u know him so well ..... 

 

They know each other in and out.

[Blueray]

Man admits evading NS for a decade

 

 

The prosecution is pushing for a five-month jail term for a 28-year-old man who on Friday (Jan 13) pleaded guilty to defaulting on his national service (NS) for a decade.

 

Not only did Jonathan Tan Huai En reap the benefit of his Singapore citizenship by completing his primary education here, but he also never took any concrete action to renounce his citizenship, despite moving to Canada and becoming a citizen there, the prosecution argued.

 

But his lawyer urged the court to impose a fine or a community- based sentence instead, saying Tan could not return any earlier because his mother was suffering from a psychiatric condition.

 

Tan had stayed overseas without a valid exit permit from Dec 22, 2004 until May 4, 2015.

 

He, his younger brother, their older sister and their mother had migrated to Canada on Dec 1, 2000, with no intention of returning to Singapore.

 

However, Tan's father remained here, due to a lack of employment opportunities overseas.

 

Between Dec 1, 2005 and June 30, 2006, three letters were sent to their Singapore address, asking Tan to register for NS.

 

When Tan still failed to turn up, officers from the Central Man- power Base (CMPB) went to the home in October and November of 2006.

 

In the middle of 2009, Tan's father called CMPB to say his son wanted to renounce his Singapore citizenship.

 

About two months later, the father sent CMPB a letter from his lawyers, stating this again.

 

But CMPB replied to say that Tan had to serve his NS first.

 

It also said that he had been classified as a defaulter and urged him to return as soon as possible.

 

But as the elder son of the family, Tan said he was effectively the "man of the household" who was obliged to take care of his younger brother, now 25, and mother.

 

His mother began psychiatric treatment for depression in Vancouver in October 2008.

 

Deputy Public Prosecutor (DPP) Houston Johannus said: "The simple fact of the matter is that it was always open for Tan's mother to return ... so that she would be properly cared for in Singapore by his father or their relatives."

 

From 2010, Tan's mother also seemed well enough to allow him to start working, the DPP said.

 

He also noted that Tan applied for and received a Singapore NRIC when he returned to Singapore on May 5, 2015 .

 

"It is submitted that this further affirms the accused's intention to hold onto his Singapore citizenship and enjoy the privileges it brings," said the DPP.

 

However, Tan's lawyer, Ms Josephine Choo, argued that he did not have an NRIC because he had left Singapore when he was 12 years old, and needed to get one so that he could serve NS.

 

Tan finally enlisted for NS on Jan 8.

 

He is expected to be sentenced on Feb 2.

 

His brother, who has also returned to Singapore after defaulting on NS, will be dealt with separately.

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-admits-evading-ns-for-a-decade

 

 

[Scion]

Man admits evading NS for a decade

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-admits-evading-ns-for-a-decade

 

 

first thought is this guy is selfish, returning only for benefits (i assume he wants his mother to be treated and taken care here)

 

on the other hand, he did get enlisted eventually... even though after 10 long years

 

so hope he won't get too harsh the punishment

[Evillusion]

first thought is this guy is selfish, returning only for benefits (i assume he wants his mother to be treated and taken care here)

 

on the other hand, he did get enlisted eventually... even though after 10 long years

 

so hope he won't get too harsh the punishment

we dont need this kind of Singaporean.......in peace time he didnt sacrifice and in war i doubt he will!

This ns thingy separates those that will and those that wont.

If only the 1st gen pr needs to do ns....doesnt need to be in the armed forces....there is scdf where their duty is to save lives and property. That will free up many singaporean who is serving in scdf. Every friday i see many muscle popping men in a mosque near the scdf hq. Most of these guys wont be lost in the armed services but in the army i wont think they will have the time to take care of their bio mass.....

[Kusje]

Depends what kind of war.

 

I will fight a war to protect my family but not the land.

[Lala81]

Father is a big time lawyer.

 

http://themiddleground.sg/2017/01/14/didnt-st-name-ns-defaulters-father/

 

Seems a bit yuan wang for the kid to grow up not knowing his NS liability (he left SG at 12, i really doubt anyone would know their NS liability at that age) then realising in 2013 he's a defaulter.

It was a conscious effort by the parents to do so.

Now he has to go to jail sorta to pay for his sins (which aren't fully his fault)

 

 

Man admits evading NS for a decade

 

 

[Blueray]

If at 12 he don't know about NS liability then our National Education has failed.

[BanCoe]

If at 12 he don't know about NS liability then our National Education has failed.

 

At age 12, well he is considered a kid, will follow what the parents say, I guess, wont know much about legal aspects or obligations.

[Lala81]

At age 12, well he is considered a kid, will follow what the parents say, I guess, wont know much about legal aspects or obligations.

 

well i think he's feigning a bit of ignorance.

Well his parents took him out before he knew what's going on.

But NS send the family so many letters when he was approaching enlistment age. As a teenager or young adult, cannot be u dunno what's going on.

[Vratenza]

Senior Counsel some more.....

 

Also, Straits Times seem to paint the picture that the father is some lowly qualified person who cannot get a job in Canada, that's why he has no choice but to remain in Singapore....

 

 

 

However, Tan's father remained here, due to a lack of employment opportunities overseas.

the picture really got twisted with ST...

Father is a big time lawyer.

 

http://themiddleground.sg/2017/01/14/didnt-st-name-ns-defaulters-father/

 

Seems a bit yuan wang for the kid to grow up not knowing his NS liability (he left SG at 12, i really doubt anyone would know their NS liability at that age) then realising in 2013 he's a defaulter.

It was a conscious effort by the parents to do so.

Now he has to go to jail sorta to pay for his sins (which aren't fully his fault)

 

Edited January 14, 2017 by Vratenza