Rollagt 5th Gear December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 I realise youngsters nowadays (from Pri to tertiary) do speak with an angmo slang for english and seems that they are struggling very hard to speak their own mother tongue. ie mandrian. Is it because parents nowadays speak english at home and resulting their children becoming mono-lingual ? Occasionally, I could see youngster/school student struggling hard to converse in simple mandrian. ie placing order for mixed rice. BUT.. I dont see our malay and indian youngsters struggle to speak both english and their mother tongue well. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pltang Clutched December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 mandarin.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 let them watch more tv program, they can speak in different slang, american, bristish, texas, even beijing slang for mandarin [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk65 1st Gear December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 its in the upbringing , if the parent with 6.5 standard, die-die wanna speaked engrish to the kids at home, u can't blame the product of their efforts right? 近朱者赤 for all you know, they are speaking the maids' native language more fluently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullifi3d 4th Gear December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 Remember, Broken Engrish is accepter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 You are damn right about this phenomena. This trait is especially noticeable in young teens. I also noticed they had already adopted the habit of adding phrases such as, ''You know...'', ''I was like...'' etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 PREASE LOR . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollagt 5th Gear December 22, 2011 Author Share December 22, 2011 (edited) Haha ! Spell sala ! Mandarin ! Maybe parents thought english good is more useful than their own mother tongue ? But now with India and China coming up, english good still got use in future ? Even those china people are becoming more and more bilingual and I guess these monolingual SG youngsters will sure lose out in the long run. I ever got suan and mocked by china man on my command of mandarin. They say chinese boy duno chinese. Then ask if I ever heard of English man cant speak english ? Feels so lousy ! Edited December 22, 2011 by Rollagt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollagt 5th Gear December 22, 2011 Author Share December 22, 2011 You are damn right about this phenomena. This trait is especially noticeable in young teens. I also noticed they had already adopted the habit of adding phrases such as, ''You know...'', ''I was like...'' etc. I fully agree on the "I was like" portion..Maybe it feels atas when u say out this tagline. Feels unglam to say "I hor.." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 1st Gear December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 BUT.. I dont see our malay and indian youngsters struggle to speak both english and their mother tongue well. I am guessing you don't have a strong command of Malay/Tamil/Hindi/Urdu and have too few Malay/Indian friends who can be honest with you. PLENTY of Malays and Indians struggle with their mother tongue. When I speak Mandarin, people from China will ask me which province I'm from. But when I try to do real work in Mandarin, these same people with switch to English... or Chinglish.... and things get done faster. Singapore does not have the environment for Mandarin/Chinese to reach work level competence. Which is why my philosophy for my children's education is that they must have a very strong command of English first. Ironically, just the other day, I was playing with voice recognition on Google Translate, and maybe you should try it, cause Google Translate kept thinking I was cursing when I said "BEDSHEET". Immediately understood me when I said "床单". I guess I still need to work my accents in English... and if I get too successful, you will accuse me of slanging too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollagt 5th Gear December 22, 2011 Author Share December 22, 2011 I am guessing you don't have a strong command of Malay/Tamil/Hindi/Urdu and have too few Malay/Indian friends who can be honest with you. PLENTY of Malays and Indians struggle with their mother tongue. When I speak Mandarin, people from China will ask me which province I'm from. But when I try to do real work in Mandarin, these same people with switch to English... or Chinglish.... and things get done faster. Singapore does not have the environment for Mandarin/Chinese to reach work level competence. Which is why my philosophy for my children's education is that they must have a very strong command of English first. Ironically, just the other day, I was playing with voice recognition on Google Translate, and maybe you should try it, cause Google Translate kept thinking I was cursing when I said "BEDSHEET". Immediately understood me when I said "床单". I guess I still need to work my accents in English... and if I get too successful, you will accuse me of slanging too. Mother tongue although not a working language but at least able to have a decent conversation with peers or ordering food. The chap I met even struggle with the word " bai fan" (rice) A look at his wallet shows he carries a pink IC which means school got teach mother tongue but din teach him "bai fan". Till date, I have not met anyone sucessful speak good english with a slang. Haha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 I realise youngsters nowadays (from Pri to tertiary) do speak with an angmo slang for english and seems that they are struggling very hard to speak their own mother tongue. ie mandrian. Is it because parents nowadays speak english at home and resulting their children becoming mono-lingual ? Occasionally, I could see youngster/school student struggling hard to converse in simple mandrian. ie placing order for mixed rice. BUT.. I dont see our malay and indian youngsters struggle to speak both english and their mother tongue well. being effective in more than one language has always been an issue. even for us when we were youths. I try to make it a point that my kids learn to speak a dialect of our forefathers. culture and heritage can easily be lost when language is lost too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Bear Turbocharged December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 PREASE LOR . Lol... I was thinking Aaron Tan too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollagt 5th Gear December 22, 2011 Author Share December 22, 2011 being effective in more than one language has always been an issue. even for us when we were youths. I try to make it a point that my kids learn to speak a dialect of our forefathers. culture and heritage can easily be lost when language is lost too. I agree with you on being effective on more than 1 language. Last generation cant get effective but at least dun let it deteriorate. For myself, being a Teochew in dialect could only understand but can only speak up to 30% fluency. Sigh ! Whereas HOkkien I could understand 100% and speak at 70% fluency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearoil 1st Gear December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 I realise youngsters nowadays (from Pri to tertiary) do speak with an angmo slang for english and seems that they are struggling very hard to speak their own mother tongue. ie mandrian. Is it because parents nowadays speak english at home and resulting their children becoming mono-lingual ? Occasionally, I could see youngster/school student struggling hard to converse in simple mandrian. ie placing order for mixed rice. BUT.. I dont see our malay and indian youngsters struggle to speak both english and their mother tongue well. I would not worry so much as to HOW the kids of new gen Sinkie are until... THEY SLASH OR STAB YOU!!... if they're male or accuse you are out to seduce them (for the female) and they asked their beng bf to beat you up,,, Then you'll start worrying! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curahee 1st Gear December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 Maybe parents thought english good is more useful than their own mother tongue ? I notice another thing is when keep a dog, cat, rabbit or other cute adorable animal etc, the owner will speak to them in English. I seldom hear dog owner speak to their dog in Chinese. Maybe such behavior is bring over to their kids, first instinct is speak in English since young as they all very cute, adorable like those dog, cat etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 1st Gear December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 Mother tongue although not a working language but at least able to have a decent conversation with peers or ordering food. The chap I met even struggle with the word " bai fan" (rice) A look at his wallet shows he carries a pink IC which means school got teach mother tongue but din teach him "bai fan". The guy from China will correct you and say it is "mifan" not "baifan". I am not against learning Chinese, but there are different levels to aim for and different people have different circumstances, and there is no point being judgemental. A pink IC means nothing. That guy may be a new citizen from Myanmar, for example, and had been here for over 10 years when he studied in local universities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthrevan Supercharged December 22, 2011 Share December 22, 2011 (edited) You are damn right about this phenomena. This trait is especially noticeable in young teens. I also noticed they had already adopted the habit of adding phrases such as, ''You know...'', ''I was like...'' etc. i also noticed that..since when is that a part of conversational english? Edited December 22, 2011 by Darthrevan ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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