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It will be tough finding 100k Singaporean men who want to be career soldiers. That's like 5% of the male population bro.

 

And 100k is like 25% of our reserve force train as SOF.

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It will be tough finding 100k Singaporean men who want to be career soldiers. That's like 5% of the male population bro.

 

It is possible, i saw an documentary on the US recuritment.

 

They target boys on the street and promise them education, job etc.

 

With the biased education and employment system, the next generation of Singaporean may be forced to see this as another path.

 

 

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Matador fire unguided projectile, so it depend alot on the user, the firer before me bobo and land outside the range which blown a family of wild boar in to bit... [:(]

 

 

How come we are not using this?

 

Seem effective from the hollywood movie?

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It is possible, i saw an documentary on the US recuritment.

 

They target boys on the street and promise them education, job etc.

 

With the biased education and employment system, the next generation of Singaporean may be forced to see this as another path.

 

SAF is afraid of getting rejects too. Those who cannot handle what the society/civilian lives throw at them may not have the aptitude to serve the country. Can become negative and bring down morales.

 

The should set the standards high to and really pay well and reward those who has the commitment to serve the people, not just get someone who is just study smart and throw a scholarship to him.

 

I still believe that those general level leaders should all go through the elite forces/vocations from either of the 3 services.

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Have you seen our SOF before? They are as good as any special force in the world. What we need are a medium size standing regular army(100-150k strong) that are both well funded, well trained, well equipped and well paid. With good pay($5k-$6 range), i'm sure we can attract those MW3/BF3 wannabe boys to join the army full time.

 

the more important question here is, why do you think Singapore requires such a large standing army with respect to its resident population?

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Have you seen our SOF before? They are as good as any special force in the world. What we need are a medium size standing regular army(100-150k strong) that are both well funded, well trained, well equipped and well paid. With good pay($5k-$6 range), i'm sure we can attract those MW3/BF3 wannabe boys to join the army full time.

 

yes. i know what our sof is capable of.

 

And i didnt say they arent good.

 

Actually, arent our SAF guys paid well enuff?

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You 84 gunner? No joke doing road match on a 84. My friend when was training in taiwan, his 84slipped and fell back to the bottom of the hill where the team almost reached the top liao. [bigcry]

 

 

no.. not 84 gunner. But as an infantry cadets, we need to be trained to handle most weapons.

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It is possible, i saw an documentary on the US recuritment.

 

They target boys on the street and promise them education, job etc.

 

With the biased education and employment system, the next generation of Singaporean may be forced to see this as another path.

 

hahaha...they can promise all they say, cos end of day whether you can get it is actually depending on the other agencies involved as well as your own results, so dont get thinking that if you cant get into institutions on your own, you can depend on them to provide you the lobang. ...sigh... sigh.... sigh...

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hahaha...they can promise all they say, cos end of day whether you can get it is actually depending on the other agencies involved as well as your own results, so dont get thinking that if you cant get into institutions on your own, you can depend on them to provide you the lobang. ...sigh... sigh.... sigh...

 

Its actually the affordability part. the GI bill is one of the best bills ever passed and it allowed all servicemen to obtain an education after they have left the service.

 

Also, i dont know if you know but ivy leagues prize military service

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yes. i know what our sof is capable of.

 

And i didnt say they arent good.

 

Actually, arent our SAF guys paid well enuff?

 

Seriously $3k is pathetic compare to the risk and training involved. I give you $3k ask you to chiong hill, play with claymore, grenade and camp in the jungle you want or not, no right. then why do you think they are well enough paid? That is why our military can't attract or retain our season soldiers after the 1st contract.

 

If you want it cheap, might as well out-source it to "Bangala".... what we need are committed Singaporean that is well paid, well equipped and well trained.

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Seriously $3k is pathetic compare to the risk and training involved. I give you $3k ask you to chiong hill, play with claymore, grenade and camp in the jungle you want or not, no right. then why do you think they are well enough paid? That is why our military can't attract or retain our season soldiers after the 1st contract.

 

If you want it cheap, might as well out-source it to "Bangala".... what we need are committed Singaporean that is well paid, well equipped and well trained.

 

 

Consider that the possibility that our govt did not want to have a standing professional army for fear of generals getting too powerful. Too many cases of army folks launching coups in the region. That may also explain why our generals are so fast track, maybe to ensure they dont get too influential and build up a power base that can challenge the civilian elite.

 

However, since LKY openly say that SAF may launch a coup if the PAP loses power, things may have changed?

 

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Seriously $3k is pathetic compare to the risk and training involved. I give you $3k ask you to chiong hill, play with claymore, grenade and camp in the jungle you want or not, no right. then why do you think they are well enough paid? That is why our military can't attract or retain our season soldiers after the 1st contract.

 

If you want it cheap, might as well out-source it to "Bangala".... what we need are committed Singaporean that is well paid, well equipped and well trained.

 

That was exactly what we were paid, sorry, LESSER, during my time. And we had to do all you mentioned and more. :D

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The Milan is still operational right? Vaguely remember it is hell slow but wire guided so can still trim to guide it on the fly in case target moves.

 

My unit is the so call first unti to be trained in SPIKE beside the trainers......... 2 weeks conversion course..... and everything was in a mess. SOP, Training Kits etc........

 

End up half fark train in SPIKE. Trainers tell us, we may be required to be trained aftyer we ORD but end up still use back MILAN.

 

SPIKE easier to deploy unlike MILAN where we need a clear line of sight as well as a clear area at the rear for back blast.

 

Both weight about the same so not much different during man pack

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