Giving up my son's Singapore Passport

[Vid]

put it this way lah , if his son immigrated to a new country and bred in that country for a considerable number of years, I doubt he will have any feelings for singapore lah...if so just renounce his singapore citizenship loh.

 

ya ....it is lame to renounce just to escape NS. dont understand the mentality....hundred of thousands of singaporean male have done it....whats so scary about NS? as SAF is moving into 3G blar blar blar....next generation of NSF will probably be playing with gadgets in aircon rooms instead of chonging mountain in the F**king hot sun.

 

It's not so much the physically demand of NS that prompted people to migrate. It's more on the time spent, or rather wasted. Youth at that age make the sacrifice only for foreigner peers who study here to make a headstart over them.

[Jasonjst]

The only incentive is NS

 

Yah right, you got free food and lodging.

[SimonTan]

Just apply for deferment loh.

 

[Csnewbie]

Seem like now a day, it become a disincentive to be a Singaporean?

Recently survey show less than 50% of PR willing to take up the Red PP, now we have people trying all means to give up? Is it more difficult to give up the Red PP then to acquire one?

 

 

http://forums.asiaone.com/showthread.php?t=44815

 

Hi,

 

My family (me, wife and my 8 year old son) hold Singapore passports and we have migrated to another country and we will soon be eligible to get the foreign country passport as it allows dual citizenship.

 

We have decided that my son will not do the NS. Hence my son will give up his Singapore passport. But my wife and I want to keep Singapore passports.

 

Do you know if Singapore government will allow us to give up only my son's passport ? Do you know any such cases and their outcome ? Any feedback will help as I can't check with ICA for obvious reasons

 

thanks

 

he can ask ICA

 

they will say something like singtel would tell him...

 

give you discount or something

 

[Hotamp]

It's not so much the physically demand of NS that prompted people to migrate. It's more on the time spent, or rather wasted. Youth at that age make the sacrifice only for foreigner peers who study here to make a headstart over them.

 

actually now NS liability is only 2 yrs , furthermore, during NS you have plenty of opportunity to screw up and thus wise up, plenty of opportunity to build camaraderie together with your unit mates, suffer and enjoy together. if you take it positively it is a time for character building before the child faces the harsher reality of society. Seriously, those who cannot survive NS are those with attitude problems. it is better to iron out such attitude problems in the bud than let the boss do it for you. If the child is capable 2 years is not a very big difference in headstart between their peers, as i have said thousands of singaporean males have done NS, it is an inconvenience but not a problem big enough to renounce your citizenship lah....lame

[Vega]

Quitters.

 

Not everyone has the guts and means to migrate. I admire their courage.

[Vulcann]

There isn't much incentive to be singaporeans. Places in schools are given to FT, HDB flats are sold to FT, jobs are given to FT. Basically the only rights we have is we get to vote every 5 years. Not really something that excites.

 

I can understand why they want to give up their son's citizenship. Why waste the time protecting the FTs when you can come back as FT to get protected instead.

 

IF I have the means I will also contemplate what is best for my kids, including renouncing my links to the little red dot & throwing in the towel.

 

But realistically I have to LLST & strive hard to ensure they do their best in this unforgiving society to be one of the top rats.

 

That's meritocracy for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kopites]

put it this way lah , if his son immigrated to a new country and bred in that country for a considerable number of years, I doubt he will have any feelings for singapore lah...if so just renounce his singapore citizenship loh.

 

ya ....it is lame to renounce just to escape NS. dont understand the mentality....hundred of thousands of singaporean male have done it....whats so scary about NS? as SAF is moving into 3G blar blar blar....next generation of NSF will probably be playing with gadgets in aircon rooms instead of chonging mountain in the F**king hot sun.

 

 

In the 80s or was it 90s (i don't remember the exact year).. u have seem or even heard that there are parent migrating to another country because of the strong "chinese" language weightage in gaining entry to our local uni.

[Kopites]

Yah right, you got free food and lodging.

 

 

Not really free lah.

 

Got to do area cleaning; srcub drain, wash toilet bowl, water plant etc.

[Darryn]

Why do you need the permission of the Singapore govt to renounce your Singapore citizenship?

 

Besides - didn't someone say that Singapore doesn't want quitters?

 

[Kopites]

actually now NS liability is only 2 yrs , furthermore, during NS you have plenty of opportunity to screw up and thus wise up, plenty of opportunity to build camaraderie together with your unit mates, suffer and enjoy together. if you take it positively it is a time for character building before the child faces the harsher reality of society. Seriously, those who cannot survive NS are those with attitude problems. it is better to iron out such attitude problems in the bud than let the boss do it for you. If the child is capable 2 years is not a very big difference in headstart between their peers, as i have said thousands of singaporean males have done NS, it is an inconvenience but not a problem big enough to renounce your citizenship lah....lame

 

You must be an officer or those very "on" the ball type. Me "hokkien holicopter"...the only word is "keng". Still survived and finished my 2.5 years and countless ICT.

Edited November 27, 2011 by Kopites

[Jasonjst]

actually now NS liability is only 2 yrs , furthermore, during NS you have plenty of opportunity to screw up and thus wise up, plenty of opportunity to build camaraderie together with your unit mates, suffer and enjoy together. if you take it positively it is a time for character building before the child faces the harsher reality of society. Seriously, those who cannot survive NS are those with attitude problems. it is better to iron out such attitude problems in the bud than let the boss do it for you. If the child is capable 2 years is not a very big difference in headstart between their peers, as i have said thousands of singaporean males have done NS, it is an inconvenience but not a problem big enough to renounce your citizenship lah....lame

 

I think people migrate to other country not just because of NS alone lah . Most likely they found a better paying job and better living in another country .

[Felipe]

believe its of a different case. most come not because they quit china to a easier place. most come because their family are hungry back in their home land and they come to make a living with hope of going back to china when all are well... then the unexpected happen and china close door, so they cannot go back.

Well the china doors eventually reopened but none went back. Anyway, there's nothing wrong in wanting a better life.

[KARTer]

Not everyone has the guts and means to migrate. I admire their courage.

A airline technician fren's sons didnt do too well at A levels locally.... bo bian, bite the bullet and tighten their belts, send them to Perth 3 years ago. Now one has graduated and will be getting his PR soon while working there (most likely become citizen in due course)..... i suspect in few years time my fren will retire in Perth and enjoy the open space, slower pace etc etc.... bye bye to sgp... his family (and future generation) will be come part of the LUCKY COUNTry....

 

 

[KARTer]

Well the china doors eventually reopened but none went back. Anyway, there's nothing wrong in wanting a better life.

 

Absolutely.

 

Especially its felt that the country (specifically miw) doesnt really care too much about its own people......... being a 2nd class citizen in a foreign land may still be better than being a "1st class" local here, in more ways than one... but gotta choose the country carefully

 

[Felipe]

Not everyone has the guts and means to migrate. I admire their courage.

Ya, not all quitting is bad, like its good to quit smoking. If their children are better off in the future, they will be grateful for their parents courage to seek greener pastures for them.

[Unfair]

If I had the means and have a son, I would send him to USA or aus and never come back for NS.

Cheap labour for the government for what.

 

So much budget for defense but pay nsf meagre allowances.

Waste of time.

[Hulk]

Seem like now a day, it become a disincentive to be a Singaporean?

Recently survey show less than 50% of PR willing to take up the Red PP, now we have people trying all means to give up? Is it more difficult to give up the Red PP then to acquire one?

 

 

http://forums.asiaone.com/showthread.php?t=44815

 

Hi,

 

My family (me, wife and my 8 year old son) hold Singapore passports and we have migrated to another country and we will soon be eligible to get the foreign country passport as it allows dual citizenship.

 

We have decided that my son will not do the NS. Hence my son will give up his Singapore passport. But my wife and I want to keep Singapore passports.

 

Do you know if Singapore government will allow us to give up only my son's passport ? Do you know any such cases and their outcome ? Any feedback will help as I can't check with ICA for obvious reasons

 

thanks

 

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