Ben5266 Supercharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 Android is Linux-based and open source, so you can download and read the source code from front to back. http://source.android.com/ So you mean, Android will be more prone to trojan as the hacker can find the loop hole by combing the source code? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 sorry, imo, climate control is not auto aircon. its just another way to name your conventional aircon. like i say, comparing car to phone are not similar comparison hence i dont think you can quote an example like that. it's not comparing the item, but the principle of working a machine. the aircon is still controlled by computer systems and u can let it work in auto or manual mode. if u discount the aircon, then u have the gearbox too. we think in metaphors, parellels, that's how we try to make our lives better. if u simply can't accept a parallel just bcos the item is different, then it's pretty stifling isn't it? there's certainly freedom of thought to draw parallels from electronics to cars to whatever so the consumer ultimately gets to benefit. tats y the critics for IOS is simply Apple controlling everything and some users boycott such a way of doing things, no matter how good the product is. i'm not sure about WP but i heard it's the same approach. if u don't accept my comparison, at least we can agree that WP gives less control than Android. whether it suits someone is his business. no one should tell someone he shouldn't be controlling something that controls very well for him already. we live in a pluralistic world. i'm not saying you're wrong, but to understand folks have different approaches, hence my car analogies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 Work well on win7 too not much of an issue. only thing is, there are so much more choice when using Win7 compare to mac OS. what kinda of choice? at least i don't really hear of win OS users running mac os on their pc/laptop, unlike the other way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 what kinda of choice? at least i don't really hear of win OS users running mac os on their pc/laptop, unlike the other way round. Choices i am refering to are that 3rd party music player are better supported in win OS enviroment compare to Mac OS. which no matter how well the support, doesnt seems to work as well as itune in Mac OS or so i heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shull Turbocharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 what kinda of choice? at least i don't really hear of win OS users running mac os on their pc/laptop, unlike the other way round. Buying a mac, then running windows on it for 90% of the time.. is rather dumb IMO.. What's the point? Something like what's shown in 0.40s in the ad below. "I can never get a Samsung, i'm creative" [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 it's not comparing the item, but the principle of working a machine. the aircon is still controlled by computer systems and u can let it work in auto or manual mode. if u discount the aircon, then u have the gearbox too. we think in metaphors, parellels, that's how we try to make our lives better. if u simply can't accept a parallel just bcos the item is different, then it's pretty stifling isn't it? there's certainly freedom of thought to draw parallels from electronics to cars to whatever so the consumer ultimately gets to benefit. you see, that is why i say you cannot compare this to that. firstly, driving a car is about enjoyment too other than say been easier to drive. afterall, that is why racing is a sport. while having a smart phone is about convenient. so i dont see how they are comparable. tats y the critics for IOS is simply Apple controlling everything and some users boycott such a way of doing things, no matter how good the product is. i'm not sure about WP but i heard it's the same approach. if u don't accept my comparison, at least we can agree that WP gives less control than Android. whether it suits someone is his business. no one should tell someone he shouldn't be controlling something that controls very well for him already. we live in a pluralistic world. i'm not saying you're wrong, but to understand folks have different approaches, hence my car analogies. yes this i can agree. Dont get me wrong, i just find the comparison not very suitable. cause one is still a mechanic products no matter how many IT programe are place into it (the very same reason why a multi-axles CNC machine will still required you to have manual mode). while another is a IT products. cause bringing a car in and talk about manual and auto gear, we might as well say, all phone should allow us to read its C-language mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkcs Neutral Newbie November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 ip4s (rather ios) is the best choice lah, buy and can never go wrong. it's do easy to use even a 2 year old can use with ease. adobe flash is the last for galaxy note, though adobe will still update them but who knows, they might end support suddenly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acieed 1st Gear November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 This is basically an argument that will lead to many misconception and no conclusion , but basically it's a two-edged sword just like any other open-source systems such as Linux, Apache web server, etc. Closed-source doesn't mean no hackers -- look at Windows and Mac OS. Basically Microsoft and Apple goes by security by obscurity, which is a false sense of security and usually hackers and Trojans stay underground until they become prominent. Apple's earlier "no viruses" marketing campaign was a big joke and instils a false sense of security. It's like saying you live in a cave so there are no thieves. Open source is not a weakness of Android. Instead, it is the (lack of) support system with too many different manufacturers with their customized devices means firmware updates varies between manufacturers. The same problem also exists with Linux distributions which are poorly supported by their distributors. One of the things that you generally don't want to do with Android is to install apps from unknown markets, unless you know exactly what you are doing. So you mean, Android will be more prone to trojan as the hacker can find the loop hole by combing the source code? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgeter 2nd Gear November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 Hi all, My mobile contract expired liao so serch for smartphone. After a short survey Galaxy S2 & Iphone 4s come in mind. Not a tech savvy person, main usage: 1) phone call & sms 2) internet 3) take pic/video Feedback on both phone are welcome or you have other to recommendation. TIA I'm not using a iphone, so can't comment much. One thing for sure about S2. The battery life isn't that fantastic as it doesn't last for a day. In fact, I will have to charge it twice a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 I think all smartphone batt doesn't last long.. My wife iPhone & my android phone all need to charge 2 times a day thats a lot of charging. i charge my Iphone once every 2 day. my WinPhon7 same. Blackberry three time every 2 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 Nokia N9 vs SGSII http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/..._galaxy_s2.html SGSII wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 Nokia N9 vs SGSII http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/..._galaxy_s2.html SGSII wins. you okay or not?? the whole score is N9 -3 SGS2 - 2 Draw -1 and you declare the winner as SGS2?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 I shd be getting my Nokia N9 soon...looks like a good phone le Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 Of course N8 is not good. its running on old version of Symbian. N9 running on Meego supposingly are quite good. Frankly I don't understand why people are so afraid of smartphones that run on soon to be discon OS. Afraid of Apps no Enough ? Frankly so what Apple says they have Apps of 10Zillion ? or Android with 1 Zillion and Nokia has 500k ? Quality of Apps is more important. Anyway we can change a Smartphone every year or 2 so for me Any Smartphone will do as long as I pay ZERO $. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 you okay or not?? the whole score is N9 -3 SGS2 - 2 Draw -1 and you declare the winner as SGS2?? I am ok.... obviously you didn't read the last para... last sentence of the review. "Both phones have great camera setups, excellent processors and a generous amount of storage space, the Samsung has a better processor and the Nokia has a better screen, but in terms of both overall performance and usability we think the Samsung is a better bet." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 (edited) I am ok.... obviously you didn't read the last para... last sentence of the review. "Both phones have great camera setups, excellent processors and a generous amount of storage space, the Samsung has a better processor and the Nokia has a better screen, but in terms of both overall performance and usability we think the Samsung is a better bet." you see having better processor doesn't mean its better. you dont need a dual core when your OS run very smooth on single core. Performance and usability is actual Andriod not Samsung. basically its mean. N9 > SGS2 Andriod > Meegoo Edited November 28, 2011 by Joseph22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 Frankly I don't understand why people are so afraid of smartphones that run on soon to be discon OS. Afraid of Apps no Enough ? Frankly so what Apple says they have Apps of 10Zillion ? or Android with 1 Zillion and Nokia has 500k ? Quality of Apps is more important. Anyway we can change a Smartphone every year or 2 so for me Any Smartphone will do as long as I pay ZERO $. I guy in Australia claim, MeeGo is linux based so it can download apps from Android market! N9 64G is only $98 for Value plan where 16G iPhone4S is $205. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged November 28, 2011 Share November 28, 2011 Frankly I don't understand why people are so afraid of smartphones that run on soon to be discon OS. Afraid of Apps no Enough ? Frankly so what Apple says they have Apps of 10Zillion ? or Android with 1 Zillion and Nokia has 500k ? Quality of Apps is more important Anyway we can change a Smartphone every year or 2 so for me Any Smartphone will do as long as I pay ZERO $. Problem is, soon to be discon OS also mean their Apps support will drop and hence good quality apps of today might become lousy. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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